Pain in the Ar**... Literally
Discussion
Hi All.
Firstly, thank you for taking the time to read my post and if you have any advice, I would gladly welcome it.
In July 2014 I moved house and was moving some of the white good items with my brother into a van. Whilst moving the washing machine into the van, I got stuck mid lift as I was twisting into the van, simply did not have enough strength to lift it in myself and in the end, I 'forced' through the move with a great push and thought nothing of it.
Fast forward two days, and I have a 'tingling' uncomfortable aching feeling in my groin area and decided this was due to the recent exertions and that it would eventually go away.
It didn't. Fast forward to December 14 and I finally cant bear the feeling / irritation any longer and I get diagnosed with a haemorrhoid and given some suppositories. I decided I was too manly not too take these and thought I would leave it until it went away.
It didn't. Fast forward to April 15 and I am breaking down due to the discomfort I am having with day to day life, go back to the doctors (sheepishly) and take the suppositories. Excellent, the haemorrhoid has gone and I feel much better, feel like an absolute tool for not listening to my doctor.
May 15, I notice that whilst I am in a much better condition, I now have a constant 'Dull Ache' right on the most southern part of my pelvis (my left leg) and go to the doctor and advise that I have this ache, however feel 100% better without the haemorrhoid. Doctor advises self-refer physio. You guessed it, I figured it would just go away. It didn't.
July 15 - Self referral to Physio after frustration about this dull ache on my pelvis, the "sit bone" if you will.
Sept-Nov 15, Physio appointments. 8-10, all sorts of exercise completed and stretches given. complete these with due diligence and no improvement. the next appointment I have with my physio he asks to "Inject the site of pain" and that he hasn't done this for 20 years. Naturally I advised I wanted to speak to my GP first before this happens to ensure it is the right course of action.
Dec 15 - GP advises could be considered normal, however will re-refer me to a more 'specialist' back physio.
Jan 16 - Visit the back physio, he is pretty sure it isn't my back causing me problems and decides it is my 'adductor' muscles. He commences a treatment known as 'Bowing' on the muscle over the period of Jan-16 to March-16.
March 16 - Help my sister move very light items from her home as she is moving south. Massive problems. As opposed to a dull ache, I now cannot sit still for more than 5 minutes without at least 3 cushions underneath me and if I stand up, a pain from my 'Sit Bone' (Bottom of pelvis) across the back of my thigh.
Now here is the thing. This pain isn't present when I am standing, running, doing excersises, only whilst I am sitting and moving from a seated position to a standing one.
I can do all manners of stretches / exercises without being able to target my 'pain' area and have had no success in stretching it out. Whilst I appreciate the beginning of this journey was my own fault, I am now very much struggling to drive to work, 45 minute seated journey, go to the toilet, any basic sitting I am unable to do!
I broke down in the doctors today and have been referred for an 'urgent mri' and an appointment with a specialist, but I wonder, has anyone had anything similar to this?
First Physio thought Tendonitis, the second Adductors (but would I not have this pain whilst exercising?) and I think Sciatica has been ruled out, the hip test has been completed multiple times, no pain.
I apologise if this doesn't appear to be very 'structured' writing this as best as I can considering.
Firstly, thank you for taking the time to read my post and if you have any advice, I would gladly welcome it.
In July 2014 I moved house and was moving some of the white good items with my brother into a van. Whilst moving the washing machine into the van, I got stuck mid lift as I was twisting into the van, simply did not have enough strength to lift it in myself and in the end, I 'forced' through the move with a great push and thought nothing of it.
Fast forward two days, and I have a 'tingling' uncomfortable aching feeling in my groin area and decided this was due to the recent exertions and that it would eventually go away.
It didn't. Fast forward to December 14 and I finally cant bear the feeling / irritation any longer and I get diagnosed with a haemorrhoid and given some suppositories. I decided I was too manly not too take these and thought I would leave it until it went away.
It didn't. Fast forward to April 15 and I am breaking down due to the discomfort I am having with day to day life, go back to the doctors (sheepishly) and take the suppositories. Excellent, the haemorrhoid has gone and I feel much better, feel like an absolute tool for not listening to my doctor.
May 15, I notice that whilst I am in a much better condition, I now have a constant 'Dull Ache' right on the most southern part of my pelvis (my left leg) and go to the doctor and advise that I have this ache, however feel 100% better without the haemorrhoid. Doctor advises self-refer physio. You guessed it, I figured it would just go away. It didn't.
July 15 - Self referral to Physio after frustration about this dull ache on my pelvis, the "sit bone" if you will.
Sept-Nov 15, Physio appointments. 8-10, all sorts of exercise completed and stretches given. complete these with due diligence and no improvement. the next appointment I have with my physio he asks to "Inject the site of pain" and that he hasn't done this for 20 years. Naturally I advised I wanted to speak to my GP first before this happens to ensure it is the right course of action.
Dec 15 - GP advises could be considered normal, however will re-refer me to a more 'specialist' back physio.
Jan 16 - Visit the back physio, he is pretty sure it isn't my back causing me problems and decides it is my 'adductor' muscles. He commences a treatment known as 'Bowing' on the muscle over the period of Jan-16 to March-16.
March 16 - Help my sister move very light items from her home as she is moving south. Massive problems. As opposed to a dull ache, I now cannot sit still for more than 5 minutes without at least 3 cushions underneath me and if I stand up, a pain from my 'Sit Bone' (Bottom of pelvis) across the back of my thigh.
Now here is the thing. This pain isn't present when I am standing, running, doing excersises, only whilst I am sitting and moving from a seated position to a standing one.
I can do all manners of stretches / exercises without being able to target my 'pain' area and have had no success in stretching it out. Whilst I appreciate the beginning of this journey was my own fault, I am now very much struggling to drive to work, 45 minute seated journey, go to the toilet, any basic sitting I am unable to do!
I broke down in the doctors today and have been referred for an 'urgent mri' and an appointment with a specialist, but I wonder, has anyone had anything similar to this?
First Physio thought Tendonitis, the second Adductors (but would I not have this pain whilst exercising?) and I think Sciatica has been ruled out, the hip test has been completed multiple times, no pain.
I apologise if this doesn't appear to be very 'structured' writing this as best as I can considering.
Not quite as bad as yours, but in early 2010 my son was born, and for months I was carting him around on my right hip. After several months of this and him being a fairly chunky fella, I developed an incredible sharp stabbing pain in my right hip. It simply would not go away. It felt like someone was shoving a knitting needle into my right hip socket. I put up with it for months and months, went to GP, chiropractor, cranial therapy, you name it, I did it. Stretching, not stretching ... nothing would cure it. In the end, I was in so much pain with it that if someone had said that cutting my leg off would have fixed it, I'd have given it some thought. Fortunately, someone suggested Acupuncture. And I thought "What a load of b
ks, that'll never work, mumbo jumbo bullst".
After eight one-hour sessions, the pain was gone and has never surfaced again since. Indeed, during the last session I mentioned to the Acupuncturist that I had a pain in my chest at the bottom of my sternum where my son had kicked me a week or so before in excitement. She stuck a needle in there and five second later, there was a huge red weal pop up on my chest. She pulled the needle out and said "Get yourself to the doctor". Doctor diagnosed that my son had, in his excitement, snapped off my Xiphoid bone. Couldn't do anything about it other than let it heal, but it told me that Acupuncture was a lot more than it was cracked up to be. Don't dismiss it.
EDIT: incidentally I absolutely hate needles, but it was worth it. Several times I even fell asleep during it.
ks, that'll never work, mumbo jumbo bullst". After eight one-hour sessions, the pain was gone and has never surfaced again since. Indeed, during the last session I mentioned to the Acupuncturist that I had a pain in my chest at the bottom of my sternum where my son had kicked me a week or so before in excitement. She stuck a needle in there and five second later, there was a huge red weal pop up on my chest. She pulled the needle out and said "Get yourself to the doctor". Doctor diagnosed that my son had, in his excitement, snapped off my Xiphoid bone. Couldn't do anything about it other than let it heal, but it told me that Acupuncture was a lot more than it was cracked up to be. Don't dismiss it.
EDIT: incidentally I absolutely hate needles, but it was worth it. Several times I even fell asleep during it.
Sounds a mare,I have similar issues but no way as extreme. I've had a chocolate adductor on the left for years never got to why but I find exercising and not rest seems to help to calm dow, seems to come and go for me with no rhyme or reason.
I'm off to the doctors this week as I've got a painful coccyx and hips I've also got pain in the upper back between my shoulders I've tried physio and a chiropractor which have both helped to some degree but not solved the issue like you I think I need an MRI to find what's exactly causing my issues as to date I've been told it sciatica,disc issues and also my neck! You just want someone to tell you what's wrong and what's required to fix it.
Hope you get some answers and keep,us informed.
I'm off to the doctors this week as I've got a painful coccyx and hips I've also got pain in the upper back between my shoulders I've tried physio and a chiropractor which have both helped to some degree but not solved the issue like you I think I need an MRI to find what's exactly causing my issues as to date I've been told it sciatica,disc issues and also my neck! You just want someone to tell you what's wrong and what's required to fix it.
Hope you get some answers and keep,us informed.
interstellar said:
Not good. My initial thought is go to a chiropractor.
I have had issues over the years and most of it relates to the fact we were never supposed to evolve and stand up which is why the back and everything attached to it suffers so much.
They are very good imo.
Hi Interstellar. Thanks for your comment. Interestingly I was looking up local chiropractors nearby to have a fact finding appointment, but thought I would wait until after my doctor's advice on whether he was going to refer me for a MRI. I think I will still have an appointment with one, but may hold off until after the MRI now just in case there is something glaringly obvious. Would a chiropractor be able to assist with potentially lower pelvis movement? I have had issues over the years and most of it relates to the fact we were never supposed to evolve and stand up which is why the back and everything attached to it suffers so much.
They are very good imo.
offshoreeddy said:
Not quite as bad as yours, but in early 2010 my son was born, and for months I was carting him around on my right hip. After several months of this and him being a fairly chunky fella, I developed an incredible sharp stabbing pain in my right hip. It simply would not go away. It felt like someone was shoving a knitting needle into my right hip socket. I put up with it for months and months, went to GP, chiropractor, cranial therapy, you name it, I did it. Stretching, not stretching ... nothing would cure it. In the end, I was in so much pain with it that if someone had said that cutting my leg off would have fixed it, I'd have given it some thought. Fortunately, someone suggested Acupuncture. And I thought "What a load of bks, that'll never work, mumbo jumbo bullst".
After eight one-hour sessions, the pain was gone and has never surfaced again since. Indeed, during the last session I mentioned to the Acupuncturist that I had a pain in my chest at the bottom of my sternum where my son had kicked me a week or so before in excitement. She stuck a needle in there and five second later, there was a huge red weal pop up on my chest. She pulled the needle out and said "Get yourself to the doctor". Doctor diagnosed that my son had, in his excitement, snapped off my Xiphoid bone. Couldn't do anything about it other than let it heal, but it told me that Acupuncture was a lot more than it was cracked up to be. Don't dismiss it.
EDIT: incidentally I absolutely hate needles, but it was worth it. Several times I even fell asleep during it.
I am ok with needles, however, I agree, my initial thoughts were to dismiss it. Can I ask what sort of cost you paid for the 8 sessions? I am certainly open to trying any avenue possible. I am at the point now where if they offered to cut that quarter of me off I would gladly accept. Also, your last paragraph made me chuckle! so thank you for that!After eight one-hour sessions, the pain was gone and has never surfaced again since. Indeed, during the last session I mentioned to the Acupuncturist that I had a pain in my chest at the bottom of my sternum where my son had kicked me a week or so before in excitement. She stuck a needle in there and five second later, there was a huge red weal pop up on my chest. She pulled the needle out and said "Get yourself to the doctor". Doctor diagnosed that my son had, in his excitement, snapped off my Xiphoid bone. Couldn't do anything about it other than let it heal, but it told me that Acupuncture was a lot more than it was cracked up to be. Don't dismiss it.
EDIT: incidentally I absolutely hate needles, but it was worth it. Several times I even fell asleep during it.
Patch1875 said:
Sounds a mare,I have similar issues but no way as extreme. I've had a chocolate adductor on the left for years never got to why but I find exercising and not rest seems to help to calm dow, seems to come and go for me with no rhyme or reason.
I'm off to the doctors this week as I've got a painful coccyx and hips I've also got pain in the upper back between my shoulders I've tried physio and a chiropractor which have both helped to some degree but not solved the issue like you I think I need an MRI to find what's exactly causing my issues as to date I've been told it sciatica,disc issues and also my neck! You just want someone to tell you what's wrong and what's required to fix it.
Hope you get some answers and keep,us informed.
Thank you. Interesting that your exercise helps you with yours. May I ask, do you feel the 'pain' on the pelvis tendon or is it in another location? I still have no fixed idea what is wrong so I would be interested to know. The focal point of mine is most certainly on that part of me.I'm off to the doctors this week as I've got a painful coccyx and hips I've also got pain in the upper back between my shoulders I've tried physio and a chiropractor which have both helped to some degree but not solved the issue like you I think I need an MRI to find what's exactly causing my issues as to date I've been told it sciatica,disc issues and also my neck! You just want someone to tell you what's wrong and what's required to fix it.
Hope you get some answers and keep,us informed.
I'm going to be using this thread as a continuous update of my journey as it is truly baffling. Unfortunately my fiancée has had a bit of a shock herself with skin cancer, which should be cleared up now and has a lot on her plate so I am trying not to worry her as well.
If memory serves, the first session was £45 or £50, subsequent sessions £40 a time. This is the lady who helped me, in case you happen to be nearby:
http://totalhealthclinics.com/therapists/jin-kim/
http://totalhealthclinics.com/therapists/jin-kim/
offshoreeddy said:
If memory serves, the first session was £45 or £50, subsequent sessions £40 a time. This is the lady who helped me, in case you happen to be nearby:
http://totalhealthclinics.com/therapists/jin-kim/
Thank you, a bit far away for me however I have made contact with a acupuncturist today and am awaiting advices regarding appointments.http://totalhealthclinics.com/therapists/jin-kim/
interstellar said:
Yes a chiropractor would help with your pelvis and everything else attached.
I have had tingling in my fingers , pain in my head and leg before and it's all linked to nerves etc, chiro's don't just do backs.
Good luck.
Thanks. I will definitely ask my specialist about this option. Whilst I am keen to get this resolved as quickly as possible, I don't want to do anything which might hinder the MRI scan. Once they have the 'pre-treatment' images, then I will be visiting everyone I can.I have had tingling in my fingers , pain in my head and leg before and it's all linked to nerves etc, chiro's don't just do backs.
Good luck.
Update for me as of today, I got called at 7pm yesterday asking for me to come in for blood tests at 7am. I have had these taken, I presume they are routine checks as haven't had these since I last broke my leg.
Rtype said:
Thank you. Interesting that your exercise helps you with yours. May I ask, do you feel the 'pain' on the pelvis tendon or is it in another location? I still have no fixed idea what is wrong so I would be interested to know. The focal point of mine is most certainly on that part of me.
I'm going to be using this thread as a continuous update of my journey as it is truly baffling. Unfortunately my fiancée has had a bit of a shock herself with skin cancer, which should be cleared up now and has a lot on her plate so I am trying not to worry her as well.
I get the pain up the inside of my leg from about 6 inches from the top then it goes deep into the groin , it's then difficult to pinpoint exactly where as it then spreads around leaving the whole area uncomfortable especially around the leg socket? I'm going to be using this thread as a continuous update of my journey as it is truly baffling. Unfortunately my fiancée has had a bit of a shock herself with skin cancer, which should be cleared up now and has a lot on her plate so I am trying not to worry her as well.
I sometime lay on my bed trying to work out exactly where it's coming from, pulling my knees up as far as I can and pushing them apart gives some relief as it feels like it's giving it a good stretch.
I first went to the docs with this over 20 years ago, like I said it's not as bad as what your doing through and I've probably learned to just live with it as it does come and go with me but as I've got older (I'm 44).
I know two people who said that chiropractoring had helped them no end. I had back ache/sciatica, stuff that kept me awake at night. So off I went. First period was free, but I had to pay for an X-ray and also a heat thingy.
The results looked impressive.
£450 later the pain waes worse in the sense more frequent, and higher intensity. Two days after the visits to the chiro I would have an attack.
Went to an NHS physio, the one in our rugby club, and she was shocked at what was done to me, especially a 'neck twist' which I found uncomfortable. She gave me some lifestyle changes and these helped a bit. After a month and improvements I had a consultation with 'my' pysio and when I told her that I had no reflexes and tingling in my feet and numbness in my toes, which the chiro knew about, I was told to go to my doctor.
I've had a couple of CT scans and the problem has been identified. No cure but the pain has been negated by pills, modified behaviour and the promise of further exercises.
The pills are magic. Amitriptalyne, more or less. I've got little pain and in the last two months I've had no major pain to the extent that I can't sleep.
Had the chiro known what she was on about I would have been to the doctor over a year earlier.
My physio said that no reflexes, tingling and loss of sensation in toes are all danger signs. All rather basic.
The results looked impressive.
£450 later the pain waes worse in the sense more frequent, and higher intensity. Two days after the visits to the chiro I would have an attack.
Went to an NHS physio, the one in our rugby club, and she was shocked at what was done to me, especially a 'neck twist' which I found uncomfortable. She gave me some lifestyle changes and these helped a bit. After a month and improvements I had a consultation with 'my' pysio and when I told her that I had no reflexes and tingling in my feet and numbness in my toes, which the chiro knew about, I was told to go to my doctor.
I've had a couple of CT scans and the problem has been identified. No cure but the pain has been negated by pills, modified behaviour and the promise of further exercises.
The pills are magic. Amitriptalyne, more or less. I've got little pain and in the last two months I've had no major pain to the extent that I can't sleep.
Had the chiro known what she was on about I would have been to the doctor over a year earlier.
My physio said that no reflexes, tingling and loss of sensation in toes are all danger signs. All rather basic.
Thanks all for your contributions.
I must admit I am hearing a lot more problems with people who have visited chiropractor's than people who have seen results. I think in my case I will wait to see whether there are actually any defects in any discs in my spine before I have a chat with my GP/Specialist.
An update from me. I am in a significantly improved position. Whilst I still get a dull 'ache' across the back of my leg when moving from sitting to standing, I am no longer in agony. This has made things easier for me.
It still isn't 'cool' for a 29 year old male to be walking around with a cushion for day to day life, but I don't care any longer, I am happy with the improvement. What I do wonder though is whether it is simply a case of me being on a lot of medication or whether it is actual improvement.
Either way, I am noticing more strain / sensitivity on an area of my back, I presume this is from attempting to alter the way I sit when I first had this ailment.
My 'emergency' MRI has been booked for the 31/03, would you believe out of 5 hospitals nearby this is the earliest scan date!!
I have been given several options to visit a specialist as well, dates ranging between 15 days time - 48 at my nearest hospital! (convenient!)
Whilst unhappy with the wait times which is outside of the GP/Specialist & hospitals control, the whole process has been very slick, so to my GP I am thankful that at least something is starting to move.
I wonder whether anyone could explain to me how something like this might work - first MRI scan, with regards to the follow ups etc. Obviously my MRI is GP referred, not specialist, so will my GP receive the results or do I need to advise the specialist this is happening prior to our app?
KR
Rtype
I must admit I am hearing a lot more problems with people who have visited chiropractor's than people who have seen results. I think in my case I will wait to see whether there are actually any defects in any discs in my spine before I have a chat with my GP/Specialist.
An update from me. I am in a significantly improved position. Whilst I still get a dull 'ache' across the back of my leg when moving from sitting to standing, I am no longer in agony. This has made things easier for me.
It still isn't 'cool' for a 29 year old male to be walking around with a cushion for day to day life, but I don't care any longer, I am happy with the improvement. What I do wonder though is whether it is simply a case of me being on a lot of medication or whether it is actual improvement.
Either way, I am noticing more strain / sensitivity on an area of my back, I presume this is from attempting to alter the way I sit when I first had this ailment.
My 'emergency' MRI has been booked for the 31/03, would you believe out of 5 hospitals nearby this is the earliest scan date!!
I have been given several options to visit a specialist as well, dates ranging between 15 days time - 48 at my nearest hospital! (convenient!)
Whilst unhappy with the wait times which is outside of the GP/Specialist & hospitals control, the whole process has been very slick, so to my GP I am thankful that at least something is starting to move.
I wonder whether anyone could explain to me how something like this might work - first MRI scan, with regards to the follow ups etc. Obviously my MRI is GP referred, not specialist, so will my GP receive the results or do I need to advise the specialist this is happening prior to our app?
KR
Rtype
Holy thread resurrection.
I have only just heard back from my GP surgery with regards to my MRI, the scan was on the 31/03/2016.
Christ.
To make things worse, apparently only "wear and tear" detected which is leaving me a bit puzzled.. what on earth is going on here, why can I point to the source of my pain with a finger yet the MRI cant see what is causing this issue?
I have a Specialist appointment this Tuesday the 17th however I wonder how much use this appointment is actually going to be if they can only see "wear and tear"
How do I move forward now?!
I have only just heard back from my GP surgery with regards to my MRI, the scan was on the 31/03/2016.
Christ.
To make things worse, apparently only "wear and tear" detected which is leaving me a bit puzzled.. what on earth is going on here, why can I point to the source of my pain with a finger yet the MRI cant see what is causing this issue?
I have a Specialist appointment this Tuesday the 17th however I wonder how much use this appointment is actually going to be if they can only see "wear and tear"
How do I move forward now?!
Rtype said:
Holy thread resurrection.
Often the best threads.Rtype said:
How do I move forward now?!
From my experience I'd suggest trying a well recommended physical therapist that also practices acupuncture. A few years ago I was fortunate to be dating one. And she removed pretty much all my aches and pains - especially a hyper-extension right hip injury that I got playing football at age 14. When it flared up she would stick a needle in the back of my left elbow and it felt like some one popping a balloon and the pain would just wash away.
Proper WOO!
She also taught me some pressure points in my hands that really relieve cold and flu symptoms, and not surprisingly they work.
One thing I do remember is that the 'C' word (chiroprator) was banned in the house, and I've talked to a few people that have been to chiropractors and had nothing but complaints.
She's practicing in Manchester now (bit far from Kent I know) but to be honest I'd make the journey..
One of the best I ever witnessed was the owner of a farm I used to work on. He came in crippled and bent over with back pain, walked out straight and comfortable.
So PM me if you want details.
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