HELP PLEASE. Private hospitals and A & E
HELP PLEASE. Private hospitals and A & E
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chilistrucker

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4,543 posts

180 months

Sunday 10th July 2016
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I'm sure this a daft question but due to current circumstances are there any private hospitals that have an A & E department???? To long a story to write, but TIA!!! I may or may not need an A & E department at sometime today, hopefully not. Money no option, i know that sounds wrong.
Thanks again.

Magic919

14,466 posts

230 months

Sunday 10th July 2016
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There are NHS hospitals that have a private wing or area. It means you can be seen in A&E and then get admitted/transferred to the private bit.

Some private chains provide a degree of urgent care and they might be suitable. Depends on what care is needed.

chilistrucker

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4,543 posts

180 months

Sunday 10th July 2016
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Thankyou

FlyingMeeces

9,932 posts

240 months

Sunday 10th July 2016
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Actual A&E, no, very much doubt it. A quick Google turned up a sort of private walk-in centre near Harley Street, but that's all.

If you actually need A&E then you need A&E and have more to worry about than whether you've already paid for your medical care…

chilistrucker

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180 months

Sunday 10th July 2016
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It wasn't for me, it was for the head of the family I work for, and later I got called in the house to help, I immediately told them to dial 999, and that's why I'm now stood in a nhs a&b car park.

Magic919

14,466 posts

230 months

Sunday 10th July 2016
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Many of the consultants also work in private hospitals and I found they wouldn't mention anything until I specifically asked. After that it was fairly straightforward to get both sides to arrange the transfer.

FlyingMeeces

9,932 posts

240 months

Sunday 10th July 2016
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Erk! Hope they're okay.

In general terms what would normally happen is you let the NHS do its thing for the immediate acute stuff then arrange a transfer once you know what's what. But it's worth noting also, in case you have a chance to persuade them, that the NHS is absolutely world class for the really major stuff (it's round the edges that things can get dodgy, in the periphery of stuff that possibly shouldn't be dealt with at a big acute hospital at all) and they may well not actually be able to pay for any better care. A better decorated room and possibly nicer food, sure.

chilistrucker

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4,543 posts

180 months

Monday 11th July 2016
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Exactly what you describe is exactly how it panned out 👍
Can't go in to detail from a professional point of view.
After I convinced them that 999 was the only sensible option they listened, 1 paramedic car and 1 ambulance later and thanks to high praise from the medics, they realise I was right!!!
Just got back from hospital, I'm beat!!!

popeyewhite

23,012 posts

149 months

Monday 11th July 2016
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Yes, definitely OP. A number of BMI private hospitals have walk-in A+E depts. You will be seen quite quickly and prescriptions etc all done on site. Obviously it may be an advantage for you to to select a BMI hospital that had a resident specialist in the field you think may be relevant to yourself. I was treated for a compressed nerve recently at the AE at BMI Alexandra, Cheadle. There were 3 other people waiting at 4 on a Sunday afternoon. I was seen within the hour.

FlyingMeeces

9,932 posts

240 months

Monday 11th July 2016
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chilistrucker said:
Exactly what you describe is exactly how it panned out ??
Can't go in to detail from a professional point of view.
After I convinced them that 999 was the only sensible option they listened, 1 paramedic car and 1 ambulance later and thanks to high praise from the medics, they realise I was right!!!
Just got back from hospital, I'm beat!!!
Blimey, that's a long and stressful day's work. Glad they got help, and indeed agreed with you. Hope they'll be okay.

chilistrucker

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4,543 posts

180 months

Monday 11th July 2016
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The person involved has a UTI
Now in s private London hospital, but the nhs were fantastic!
Just finished again after s long day shuttling people around and sorting hospital stuff!!!

mph1977

12,467 posts

197 months

Monday 11th July 2016
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popeyewhite said:
Yes, definitely OP. A number of BMI private hospitals have walk-in A+E depts. You will be seen quite quickly and prescriptions etc all done on site. Obviously it may be an advantage for you to to select a BMI hospital that had a resident specialist in the field you think may be relevant to yourself. I was treated for a compressed nerve recently at the AE at BMI Alexandra, Cheadle. There were 3 other people waiting at 4 on a Sunday afternoon. I was seen within the hour.
I strongly doubt they have an Emergency Department vs some form of walk -in centre or GP clinic - in fact their own website calls it an urgent care centre and sells it on the reduced chances of waiting ...

FlyingMeeces

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240 months

Monday 11th July 2016
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chilistrucker said:
The person involved has a UTI
Now in s private London hospital, but the nhs were fantastic!
Just finished again after s long day shuttling people around and sorting hospital stuff!!!
Glad to hear they've been well looked after.

Sounds like this family might not have a ton of prior experience of medical stuff (lucky them!) so a heads-up: if this is an elderly person, their UTI might make them go really impressively doolally. If it does it should get better once the antibiotics have done their thing. Not entirely sure why it happens, but it's quite common for older folk including those who are prior to getting poorly in possession of more marbles than most of us ever had, and they ought to go all the way back to normal after.

chilistrucker

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Monday 11th July 2016
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FlyingMeeces said:
Glad to hear they've been well looked after.

Sounds like this family might not have a ton of prior experience of medical stuff (lucky them!) so a heads-up: if this is an elderly person, their UTI might make them go really impressively doolally. If it does it should get better once the antibiotics have done their thing. Not entirely sure why it happens, but it's quite common for older folk including those who are prior to getting poorly in possession of more marbles than most of us ever had, and they ought to go all the way back to normal after.
You just nailed it all in that post!
He is an elderly gentleman and I have a good idea how this all started, but not for posting on here.
I'm just happy he is so much better than he was 24 hours ago, mainly thanks to the excellent staff at a&e.
The family are happier, so my life is easier 😎

popeyewhite

23,012 posts

149 months

Monday 11th July 2016
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mph1977 said:
popeyewhite said:
Yes, definitely OP. A number of BMI private hospitals have walk-in A+E depts. You will be seen quite quickly and prescriptions etc all done on site. Obviously it may be an advantage for you to to select a BMI hospital that had a resident specialist in the field you think may be relevant to yourself. I was treated for a compressed nerve recently at the AE at BMI Alexandra, Cheadle. There were 3 other people waiting at 4 on a Sunday afternoon. I was seen within the hour.
I strongly doubt they have an Emergency Department vs some form of walk -in centre or GP clinic - in fact their own website calls it an urgent care centre and sells it on the reduced chances of waiting ...
You want to call it an Urgent Care Centre that's fine by me biggrin. A number of people I know have used it instead of the local overcrowded A+E and have found the service provided was excellent.

This is what their website says https://www.bmihealthcare.co.uk/treatments/emergen...

"Walk in self-pay services mean that you do not need a GP referral and you can simply turn up, with no appointment necessary. Our hospitals offer different levels of walk in services, from Minor Injuries Services to Emergency Care."

mph1977

12,467 posts

197 months

Tuesday 12th July 2016
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popeyewhite said:
mph1977 said:
popeyewhite said:
Yes, definitely OP. A number of BMI private hospitals have walk-in A+E depts. You will be seen quite quickly and prescriptions etc all done on site. Obviously it may be an advantage for you to to select a BMI hospital that had a resident specialist in the field you think may be relevant to yourself. I was treated for a compressed nerve recently at the AE at BMI Alexandra, Cheadle. There were 3 other people waiting at 4 on a Sunday afternoon. I was seen within the hour.
I strongly doubt they have an Emergency Department vs some form of walk -in centre or GP clinic - in fact their own website calls it an urgent care centre and sells it on the reduced chances of waiting ...
You want to call it an Urgent Care Centre that's fine by me biggrin. A number of people I know have used it instead of the local overcrowded A+E and have found the service provided was excellent.

This is what their website says https://www.bmihealthcare.co.uk/treatments/emergen...

"Walk in self-pay services mean that you do not need a GP referral and you can simply turn up, with no appointment necessary. Our hospitals offer different levels of walk in services, from Minor Injuries Services to Emergency Care."
All you are doing is demonstrating your ignorance on what an actual , real, Emergency Department is , these facilities do not have FFAEM consultants , do not provide a resuscitation medicine service or a trauma service ( to the old standards of a 'trauma team' never mind current standards )

popeyewhite

23,012 posts

149 months

Tuesday 12th July 2016
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mph1977 said:
All you are doing is demonstrating your ignorance on what an actual , real, Emergency Department is , these facilities do not have FFAEM consultants , do not provide a resuscitation medicine service or a trauma service ( to the old standards of a 'trauma team' never mind current standards )
You may well be correct, however I and others have found the service for our mundane injuries at an NHS A+E and private A+E to be identical, but the time taken to be dealt with was far quicker at the private department. I'm sure there are a number of life threatening situations an NHS A+E is far better equipped to deal with. However if the malady was of that seriousness it's likely the individual would be taken by ambulance straight to the NHS hospital anyway, and poring over a forum looking for hints and tips for an alternative, private, A+Es would be rather unlikely.


Countdown

49,290 posts

225 months

Tuesday 12th July 2016
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There aren't any "proper" Private A&E centres because they're not profitable. They require a significant amount of capital investment and demand can't be controlled.

Rick101

7,188 posts

179 months

Tuesday 12th July 2016
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Glad things worked out.

Hope you've got this in the book for your pay discussion!

mph1977

12,467 posts

197 months

Tuesday 12th July 2016
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Countdown said:
There aren't any "proper" Private A&E centres because they're not profitable. They require a significant amount of capital investment and demand can't be controlled.
exactly , also the requirement to have middle grade if not senior presence from both emergency medicine and Anaesthesia round the clock *on site* ...