PHers with Daughters HPV vaccine ?

[V40TC]

Anyone else have children due this Imminently?
and what are your thoughts on it ?
compulsory apparently, I am not a Tin Foil hat person,have read a fair amount on it but all from websites,
am genuinely interested in others take on the HPV vaccine and are you 100% happy for it to be given.
I dislike any Compulsory action especially when "we are being looked after" or it is "our best interests"

In the Past having a friend whom supplied Doctors surgeries with Beta Blockers and seeing them prescribed and the material rewards offered for prescription.

I would appreciate others thoughts.

[anonymous-user]

100% happy. Both of ours have had it.

[knk]

It is a very effective way of preventing your daughter developing cervical cancer in the future.

[knk]

It is not compulsary, but it is offered to all young women.
There is a strong arguement it should be offered to boys too.

[V40TC]

http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive...

http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/health-and...

https://www.theguardian.com/society/2009/sep/29/ce...

Edited by V40TC on Wednesday 4th January 23:57

[gweaver]

I'd be very wary of anything I read on that site. If someone could point out a peer reviewed article or review in a good scientific journal that would be useful.

HPV is more prevalent and probably more deadly than HIV. It's just that people have been dying of cervical cancer and mouth/throat cancer for generations, so it's not news like HIV was in the 80s and 90s. The smear test is effective at detecting pre-cancerous cells on the cervix, but there is no equivalent routine test for throat cancer, so by the time it's picked up the prognosis is often poor.

I expect your daughters are still at the young and innocent age, that being when the jab is given. As angelic as they are, when they get older there is the very real prospect of death by blow job. The HPV vaccines should prevent that. I'm not saying that side effects don't happen, but the frequency and severity of side effects should be outweighed by the lives saved. I'd have no qualms about my own hypothetical daughter having the jab.

Edited by gweaver on Thursday 5th January 00:16

[gweaver]

V40TC said:

https://www.theguardian.com/society/2009/sep/29/ce...

IIRC, the post mortem on the girl who died revealed that she died suddenly from a rare cancer of the chest/heart.

[anonymous-user]

V40TC said:

http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive...

http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/health-and...

https://www.theguardian.com/society/2009/sep/29/ce...

Edited by anonymous-user on Wednesday 4th January 23:57

That first site: put MMR into the search box, look at the results, then decide for yourself how reliable it is.

[edited to correct quoting]

Edited by anonymous-user on Thursday 5th January 07:46

[FlyingMeeces]

My daughter died before she got anywhere near the age for this, but I wouldn't have hesitated for a single second.

[DocJock]

Just do it.

[The_Doc]

gweaver said:

I'd be very wary of anything I read on that site. If someone could point out a peer reviewed article or review in a good scientific journal that would be useful.

1. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/25587221
"The vaccine continues to be immunogenic and well tolerated up to 9 years following vaccination. All randomized controlled clinical trials of the bHPV and the qHPV vaccines provide evidence of an excellent safety profile."

2. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/27895921
" the vaccinations are safe preventative measures in both males and females." -very dry quote that one, interesting abstract nonetheless

3. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/27841725
" In all study participants [study size=14,838 adolescents], the observed incidences (per 100,000 person-years) of serious adverse events (SAEs) possibly related to vaccination were 54.3"

My daughter will be getting it, and perhaps my son too, if we move to this policy.

Yours, a researcher and dad

[Sheepshanks]

V40TC said:

I dislike any Compulsory action especially when "we are being looked after" or it is "our best interests"

Why on earth would you think it's compulsory?

[gweaver]

The_Doc said:

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[Research]
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My daughter will be getting it, and perhaps my son too, if we move to this policy.

Yours, a researcher and dad

Thanks for those.

[anonymous-user]

FlyingMeeces said:

My daughter died before she got anywhere near the age for this, but I wouldn't have hesitated for a single second.

Very sorry for your loss mate.

[anonymous-user]

V40TC said:

Anyone else have children due this Imminently?
and what are your thoughts on it ?
compulsory apparently, I am not a Tin Foil hat person,have read a fair amount on it but all from websites,
am genuinely interested in others take on the HPV vaccine and are you 100% happy for it to be given.
I dislike any Compulsory action especially when "we are being looked after" or it is "our best interests"

In the Past having a friend whom supplied Doctors surgeries with Beta Blockers and seeing them prescribed and the material rewards offered for prescription.

I would appreciate others thoughts.

It was the same back in 2000 with the MMR which has everyone in a state.

My daughters mother was against it and I was very much for it and finally after speaking to more than a few Doctors she agreed.

The source of her worry was the report by Dr Andrew Wakefield the gastroenterologist who first made the devastating claim that the triple jab for measles, mumps and rubella can provoke both autism and bowel disease in a small proportion of children.

Many children my daughters age did not receive the MMR jab because of the claims and there have been reports "in the papers" of an increase in mumps and measles.

Yes I totally get your point and worries about giving your child something which certain sites are saying could harm a child as it is a real worry.

I for one would not hesitate to give my child anything that would protect her from these serious conditions.

[Prof Prolapse]

Just remember not all sources are created equal.

When the NHS and the scientific community shows you their workings, offer transparency, and the opportunity to be disproved, you can consider it a valid source of information.

When someone with no credibility provides medical advice, especially the tabloids who are largely responsible for the MMR fiasco (but were not legally accountable), they should not be considered like for like with one another.

This is doubly so when the only counter argument attacks the individuals not the claim. I.e. All pharma companies are evil, and doctors idiots, so don't trust the HPV vaccine. Rather than actually showing you a reasoned argument.

That said, it's not a personal choice issue, it's a public health issue. You're objectively failing both your offspring and your responsibilities to the wider community by ignoring sound medical advice.

[CharlesdeGaulle]

Both my daughters had it - it was even recommended to all of the girls and their parents by the Catholic Girls Boarding School that they attended - and I can see nothing but benefit in vaccines like this. Much better than the possible alternative.

[V40TC]

Thank you all for responses. I really appreciate the time you have taken.

there was some confusion here regarding it being compulsory.

[AMLK]

gweaver said:

HPV is more prevalent and probably more deadly than HIV. It's just that people have been dying of cervical cancer and mouth/throat cancer for generations, so it's not news like HIV was in the 80s and 90s. The smear test is effective at detecting pre-cancerous cells on the cervix, but there is no equivalent routine test for throat cancer, so by the time it's picked up the prognosis is often poor.

I expect your daughters are still at the young and innocent age, that being when the jab is given. As angelic as they are, when they get older there is the very real prospect of death by blow job. The HPV vaccines should prevent that. I'm not saying that side effects don't happen, but the frequency and severity of side effects should be outweighed by the lives saved. I'd have no qualms about my own hypothetical daughter having the jab

Edited by gweaver on Thursday 5th January 00:16

This 100%, except I have a daughter that WILL be having the jab. I work in radiotherapy and it is frightening the number of cases that are positive for HPV. Head and neck cancer must be one of the worst cancers to have treatment for as it is so intense and debilitating, I wouldn't wish it on my worst enemy. I feel that everyone should have the vaccine, not just girls.


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