Daughter has painful lump in her nether regions.
Daughter has painful lump in her nether regions.
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King Herald

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23,501 posts

245 months

Monday 10th April 2017
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My daughter has developed some sort of painful lump/boil/abscess in the place a dad never sees, and I have tried to get her in to see the nurse at our local GP.

There is no practise nurse in, and being 15 and pretty shy she definitely does not want a male doctor firking around down there.

She cannot sit down today and is suffering. Obviously she can't show me, but it sounds like an abscess inside somewhere. She says it is exactly where some gland or other is, ref Google, and two weeks ago I took her to the docs as she has a small swelling in one side of her neck, which has not really got any better after antibiotics. She was getting worried about it and panicking a bit as she felt like something was in her throat.

I have to call back to the GP midday to see if she can be fitted in at a nurse in another clinic, but should I take her to A& E if no luck with GP?

I took out private medical insurance for our first year back in the UK but I'm not even sure how I use that in England, are there private GP surgeries? I shall inquire when I call the GP at noon.


Hoofy

80,006 posts

311 months

Monday 10th April 2017
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Could go to A&E but bring a good book. You might be there for 8 hours before someone sees you as it isn't an emergency but sounds like you probably can't wait until someone sees her at her GP.

King Herald

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23,501 posts

245 months

Monday 10th April 2017
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She seems a bit better after some aspirin, but still can't sit down or move very well.

8 hours in A&E on a wooden chair might be impossible....

Message via her mum is it is probably a blind boil, which, apparently, is quite common amongst the fairer sex...

WinstonWolf

72,863 posts

268 months

Monday 10th April 2017
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A walk-in centre is probably a better bet than A&E. Most towns have them these days...

Foliage

3,861 posts

151 months

Monday 10th April 2017
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first she could make a call to 111 NHS direct

Find your nearest walk in centre, give them a call, see a female nurse or doctor is available to look at it, if not call the next one.

http://www.nhs.uk/Service-Search/Walk-in-centre/Lo...

Ive consistently been seen faster at walk in centres, but its usually a sat/sun when I go due to my own docs being shut.

King Herald

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23,501 posts

245 months

Monday 10th April 2017
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Okay, I'll try 111 if no joy at midday when I phone our GP office.

We've been away for several years so a lot of this procedure is new to us. Our local GP website announced on their web page that they no longer do 'walk in appointments', everything has to be booked in advance.

Is it reasonable for her to only want a female doc or nurse to investigate her problem at this age? (15) Or should she be content with whoever they have available.

And no, she is not on the pill, never had a boyfriend or any sexual experience etc etc.

The GP says a male doctor might be available, but she is dead against that.

C0ffin D0dger

3,440 posts

174 months

Monday 10th April 2017
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WinstonWolf said:
A walk-in centre is probably a better bet than A&E. Most towns have them these days...
They closed ours! No wonder the hospital was overloaded this winter.

To the OP persist with your GP and if you're daughter really doesn't want to see a male doctor then request a female one. It's not really for A&E to deal with so wouldn't advise going there. Weirdly our surgery is mostly female doctors anyway. With regard to the private cover unfortunately the GPs are still the front line but can make you a referral to your private health provider if required. The health provider may well have a helpline though so try calling.

King Herald

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245 months

Monday 10th April 2017
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C0ffin D0dger said:
They closed ours! No wonder the hospital was overloaded this winter.

To the OP persist with your GP and if you're daughter really doesn't want to see a male doctor then request a female one. It's not really for A&E to deal with so wouldn't advise going there. Weirdly our surgery is mostly female doctors anyway. With regard to the private cover unfortunately the GPs are still the front line but can make you a referral to your private health provider if required. The health provider may well have a helpline though so try calling.
She is in so much pain she has now agreed to see the male doctor. 5pm. I hope we don't have to wait 50 minutes like last time, as no way can she sit on their hard waiting room chairs......



paul789

4,248 posts

133 months

Monday 10th April 2017
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King Herald said:
C0ffin D0dger said:
They closed ours! No wonder the hospital was overloaded this winter.

To the OP persist with your GP and if you're daughter really doesn't want to see a male doctor then request a female one. It's not really for A&E to deal with so wouldn't advise going there. Weirdly our surgery is mostly female doctors anyway. With regard to the private cover unfortunately the GPs are still the front line but can make you a referral to your private health provider if required. The health provider may well have a helpline though so try calling.
She is in so much pain she has now agreed to see the male doctor. 5pm. I hope we don't have to wait 50 minutes like last time, as no way can she sit on their hard waiting room chairs......
For me, "so much pain" = A&E.

zeDuffMan

4,314 posts

180 months

Monday 10th April 2017
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paul789 said:
For me, "so much pain" = A&E.
Easy to say I know but being painful doesn't make it an emergency. A 50 minute wait in a GP surgery will surely be better than 4+ hours in A&E.

I'm sure my perspective would change if it was my daughter, though.

TVR1

5,478 posts

254 months

Monday 10th April 2017
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Hi KH,

Get her off to A&E. what you may think is 'just' an infection could very well cause issues with her urinaty tract and or kidneys, particularly where it is.

As i learned again today, (relatively) young and young, fit healthy people have a incredible stamina for fighting infection but when it gets too much, its like flicking a switch. The body just has enough.

Dont leave it buddy.


King Herald

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23,501 posts

245 months

Tuesday 11th April 2017
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TVR1 said:
Hi KH,

Get her off to A&E. what you may think is 'just' an infection could very well cause issues with her urinaty tract and or kidneys, particularly where it is.

As i learned again today, (relatively) young and young, fit healthy people have a incredible stamina for fighting infection but when it gets too much, its like flicking a switch. The body just has enough.

Dont leave it buddy.
We got her into the doctor, she braved up and let him examine her. thumbup

Some sort of abcess going on, hair follicle or similar. Now she has two weeks of antibiotics to take. Luckily she has two weeks off school, for Easter, or it could be a bit of a drama.

Fozziebear

1,840 posts

169 months

Tuesday 11th April 2017
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King Herald said:
We got her into the doctor, she braved up and let him examine her. thumbup

Some sort of abcess going on, hair follicle or similar. Now she has two weeks of antibiotics to take. Luckily she has two weeks off school, for Easter, or it could be a bit of a drama.
Glad you got it sorted, going forwards can I just give some advice, anything to do with women and boobies/front bottoms is straight to doctors no hesitation. My wife is religious about these things, it's saved her and a couple of friends from serious issues

Riley Blue

23,205 posts

255 months

Tuesday 11th April 2017
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Fozziebear said:
Glad you got it sorted, going forwards can I just give some advice, anything to do with women and boobies/front bottoms is straight to doctors no hesitation. My wife is religious about these things, it's saved her and a couple of friends from serious issues
To which I would add gentlemen's water works. We (men) are stupidly reluctant to face up to such things when they're 'not quite right'. I'm a prostate cancer survivor because I went to see my GP early enough; some of my friends didn't.

Hope your daughter is feeling better today, OP.

King Herald

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23,501 posts

245 months

Tuesday 11th April 2017
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The immediate advice for most any of the above issues is to go to the GP, but the GP seems to be booked solid and they continually push for people NOT to go unless it is serious.

How do you know it is serious if you are not a GP though......

When I had flu in January, the sign outside GP office told me NOT to go in if I had the exact sysmptoms I had, so I deferred for two more weeks....suffered in misery....and when I finally weakened and made an appointment, with four days wait, the nurse told me it was a good job I had gone in as I was on the verge of a serious lung infection. A week on penicillin and I was good again.

Fozziebear

1,840 posts

169 months

Tuesday 11th April 2017
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King Herald said:
The immediate advice for most any of the above issues is to go to the GP, but the GP seems to be booked solid and they continually push for people NOT to go unless it is serious.

How do you know it is serious if you are not a GP though......

When I had flu in January, the sign outside GP office told me NOT to go in if I had the exact sysmptoms I had, so I deferred for two more weeks....suffered in misery....and when I finally weakened and made an appointment, with four days wait, the nurse told me it was a good job I had gone in as I was on the verge of a serious lung infection. A week on penicillin and I was good again.
I tend to ignore the signs on the entrance, it's done by the firedragon on reception. If you are sick serious you know it, it needs looking at. Anything with man parts or lady parts is into doctor or up to A&E in my book

Jonmx

2,921 posts

242 months

Tuesday 11th April 2017
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King Herald said:
The immediate advice for most any of the above issues is to go to the GP, but the GP seems to be booked solid and they continually push for people NOT to go unless it is serious.

How do you know it is serious if you are not a GP though......

When I had flu in January, the sign outside GP office told me NOT to go in if I had the exact sysmptoms I had, so I deferred for two more weeks....suffered in misery....and when I finally weakened and made an appointment, with four days wait, the nurse told me it was a good job I had gone in as I was on the verge of a serious lung infection. A week on penicillin and I was good again.
I rang my GP back in February with a very painful leg, it was 40 minutes before closing time. I explained that all the symptoms suggested it was a DVT, I was told to ring back tomorrow. The pain got worse, so I rang 111 who arranged an appointmnent with the out of hours Dr's at the local A&E within the hour. The Dr immediately said everything suggested a DVT and did a blood test to check my D-Dimer levels. A normal indicator level is above 350, when I got the results 2 hours later they were at 3500!!
Like yourself, it's nigh on impossible to get a same day appointment at the GP at the moment, sometimes an appointment can be a week from calling.
Glad your daughter's issues have been identified though.

King Herald

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23,501 posts

245 months

Tuesday 11th April 2017
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Jonmx said:
I rang my GP back in February with a very painful leg, it was 40 minutes before closing time. I explained that all the symptoms suggested it was a DVT, I was told to ring back tomorrow. The pain got worse, so I rang 111 who arranged an appointmnent with the out of hours Dr's at the local A&E within the hour. The Dr immediately said everything suggested a DVT and did a blood test to check my D-Dimer levels. A normal indicator level is above 350, when I got the results 2 hours later they were at 3500!!
Like yourself, it's nigh on impossible to get a same day appointment at the GP at the moment, sometimes an appointment can be a week from calling.
Glad your daughter's issues have been identified though.
We had a guy medevacked of my ship one evening with suspected DVT, after a long series of flights. Cost for helicopter, in the dark, from Houston, was $85,000

Medics take it very seriously.

If I couldn't have got my daughter in to the GP during the day, I would have headed to A&E before they shut at 10pm. Yes, the A&E is closed from 10pm to 6am in my home town. Next one is 30 miles away in Stoke.

TVR1

5,478 posts

254 months

Tuesday 11th April 2017
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I would agree wholeheartedly with the comment about men not looking after themselves too. Last year I had a niggling abdomen pain that just didn't go away for a few days until on the Sunday at work I started to feel quite unwell. So much so that I didn't feel like driving home so popped around to my Mums to have a quick Snooze. Woke up 2 hours later feeling absolutely horrendous. Mum looked at me as if she had seen a ghost (50 years of acute care so she knows when there's a drama) thermometer out, pulse checked. lol and behold 42 degrees and tachycardia of 190.

Anyway, Charring Cross Hospital 10 minutes later. A&E packed. Spoke to the counter and described my symptoms. Apparently I used the magic words..

Abdominal pain
4 days
42 degrees
Tachy.

'Your next'

In with triage Dr. Bloods taken, blood pressure, temp and heart rate.

'You're very sick'. (No st)

Wait outside and we'll get you straight through to A&E. upshot is a night in A&E with every single drug they could think of put into me. It's very sobering when you're advised that had I left it another hour, I would probably be having this convo from the High dependency unit/ICU. Or not, as a systemic infection was not only lined up on the grid but had done a few laps and was rapidly trying to kill me.

Turns out I'd picked up an intestinal infection from something. For those that know, white cell count of 25.

Not a pleasant experience.


King Herald

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245 months

Wednesday 12th April 2017
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Bloody hell tvr, that's some scary stuff. yikes

The more I look into possible illnesses and diseases the scarier it all becomes, so many nasty things out there.

Daughter was in great pain earlier this evening, so I mixed her up some soluble cocodamol and she felt better after a short while. Poor thing couldn't even dress herself properly after a hot soak in the bath. Only 24 hours since the antibiotics started so I don't except things to improve must yet. It's a terrible thing to see your only child suffering so much. cry