Physiotherapy, osteopathy or chiropractor - which one?
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Short background - motorbike accident = broken ribs, broken shoulder and collapsed lung. All happened 14 years ago so in the dim and distant past.
However, the broken shoulder has always been a nuidance. Restricted range of movement, cramp if I exceed the limited "normal" range of movement and lots of "clicking/cracking" etc when moving the shoulder.
It has been bearable for the last few years and has not really given me any major problems. However, I am now getting some neck pain and the range of movement seems to be reducing - even swimming front crawl is now a bit uncomfortable.
So I want to see if I can get some treatment (yes, I know, several years too late). But who do I see? There seems to be a lot of overlap between physio/osteo/chiropractics and I do not want to choose the wrong treatment and waste time and money - so any guidance would be appreciated, particularly if it was for a shoulder injury.
However, the broken shoulder has always been a nuidance. Restricted range of movement, cramp if I exceed the limited "normal" range of movement and lots of "clicking/cracking" etc when moving the shoulder.
It has been bearable for the last few years and has not really given me any major problems. However, I am now getting some neck pain and the range of movement seems to be reducing - even swimming front crawl is now a bit uncomfortable.
So I want to see if I can get some treatment (yes, I know, several years too late). But who do I see? There seems to be a lot of overlap between physio/osteo/chiropractics and I do not want to choose the wrong treatment and waste time and money - so any guidance would be appreciated, particularly if it was for a shoulder injury.
TNJ said:
Short background - motorbike accident = broken ribs, broken shoulder and collapsed lung. All happened 14 years ago so in the dim and distant past.
However, the broken shoulder has always been a nuidance. Restricted range of movement, cramp if I exceed the limited "normal" range of movement and lots of "clicking/cracking" etc when moving the shoulder.
It has been bearable for the last few years and has not really given me any major problems. However, I am now getting some neck pain and the range of movement seems to be reducing - even swimming front crawl is now a bit uncomfortable.
So I want to see if I can get some treatment (yes, I know, several years too late). But who do I see? There seems to be a lot of overlap between physio/osteo/chiropractics and I do not want to choose the wrong treatment and waste time and money - so any guidance would be appreciated, particularly if it was for a shoulder injury.
I see you are in Kent. Not sure whereabouts but I've been seeing Kate at The Ashworth Practiice in Bromley on and off for many years and would thoroughly recommend if you decide to see an Osteo. However, with those kinds of previous injuries, I'd probably be trying to get a scan first so anyone treating you knows what they are dealing with.However, the broken shoulder has always been a nuidance. Restricted range of movement, cramp if I exceed the limited "normal" range of movement and lots of "clicking/cracking" etc when moving the shoulder.
It has been bearable for the last few years and has not really given me any major problems. However, I am now getting some neck pain and the range of movement seems to be reducing - even swimming front crawl is now a bit uncomfortable.
So I want to see if I can get some treatment (yes, I know, several years too late). But who do I see? There seems to be a lot of overlap between physio/osteo/chiropractics and I do not want to choose the wrong treatment and waste time and money - so any guidance would be appreciated, particularly if it was for a shoulder injury.
Osteopath. Not just any osteopath either, this one http://oakwellhealth.co.uk/
(01242) 221456.
Book an hour with Karl. Since you're in Kent I would strongly insist that someone drives you there and back again, or book a local hotel for the evening.
Receptionist there can help with local accommodation, people come from all over the UK and europe.
I've been to numerous osteopaths over the years and they're all the same. Karl is in a league of his own, hence why I have no hesitation in telling you to get from Kent to Cheltenham.
He can and will rectify an entire lifetime of grief. It feels unbelievably weird but it's completely painless. Everyone else offers 'treatment'. Karl offers a cure - and there's a difference between the two.
(01242) 221456.
Book an hour with Karl. Since you're in Kent I would strongly insist that someone drives you there and back again, or book a local hotel for the evening.
Receptionist there can help with local accommodation, people come from all over the UK and europe.
I've been to numerous osteopaths over the years and they're all the same. Karl is in a league of his own, hence why I have no hesitation in telling you to get from Kent to Cheltenham.
He can and will rectify an entire lifetime of grief. It feels unbelievably weird but it's completely painless. Everyone else offers 'treatment'. Karl offers a cure - and there's a difference between the two.
TNJ said:
Short background - motorbike accident = broken ribs, broken shoulder and collapsed lung. All happened 14 years ago so in the dim and distant past.
However, the broken shoulder has always been a nuidance. Restricted range of movement, cramp if I exceed the limited "normal" range of movement and lots of "clicking/cracking" etc when moving the shoulder.
It has been bearable for the last few years and has not really given me any major problems. However, I am now getting some neck pain and the range of movement seems to be reducing - even swimming front crawl is now a bit uncomfortable.
So I want to see if I can get some treatment (yes, I know, several years too late). But who do I see? There seems to be a lot of overlap between physio/osteo/chiropractics and I do not want to choose the wrong treatment and waste time and money - so any guidance would be appreciated, particularly if it was for a shoulder injury.
I injured my lower back and Shoulder last year. The Chap below sorted it. Took a few goes. But now 100% pain free.....However, the broken shoulder has always been a nuidance. Restricted range of movement, cramp if I exceed the limited "normal" range of movement and lots of "clicking/cracking" etc when moving the shoulder.
It has been bearable for the last few years and has not really given me any major problems. However, I am now getting some neck pain and the range of movement seems to be reducing - even swimming front crawl is now a bit uncomfortable.
So I want to see if I can get some treatment (yes, I know, several years too late). But who do I see? There seems to be a lot of overlap between physio/osteo/chiropractics and I do not want to choose the wrong treatment and waste time and money - so any guidance would be appreciated, particularly if it was for a shoulder injury.
http://www.takemypainaway.co.uk/meet-the-team.php
Osteopath recommendation from me as well, I had a shoulder injury a couple of years ago, very much limited ROM to the point I couldn't lift my arm more than 6 inches.
I was in tears the first time I saw my guy but over a period of 6 weeks he performed miracles, I went from very limited ROM to full ROM and no pain at all.
I was in tears the first time I saw my guy but over a period of 6 weeks he performed miracles, I went from very limited ROM to full ROM and no pain at all.
Thanks for all the replies - I am still in the dark though as have recommendations for each of osteo, chiro and physio!
I think I will just need to experiment - there is a long established physio about 100 yards from home so that may be the first point of call. If no benefit, then I will look at osteo then chiro.
I'll report back on whether any are successful
I think I will just need to experiment - there is a long established physio about 100 yards from home so that may be the first point of call. If no benefit, then I will look at osteo then chiro.
I'll report back on whether any are successful
jimreed said:
Osteopathy and chiropractic medicine are snake oil.
Use a credentialed physiotherapist.
As an aside - chiro is absolute bulls
t,
Agreed, they are no better than a medium or tarot reader. Use a credentialed physiotherapist.
As an aside - chiro is absolute bulls
t, There is a reason physiotherapy is a 3 year degree and they are regarded as health care professional.
jackh707 said:
jimreed said:
Osteopathy and chiropractic medicine are snake oil.
Use a credentialed physiotherapist.
As an aside - chiro is absolute bullst,
Agreed, they are no better than a medium or tarot reader. Use a credentialed physiotherapist.
As an aside - chiro is absolute bulls
t, There is a reason physiotherapy is a 3 year degree and they are regarded as health care professional.
jimreed said:
Osteopathy and chiropractic medicine are snake oil.
Use a credentialed physiotherapist.
As an aside - chiro is absolute bullst,
I've heard many people say this, but for 20 years I've been using various chiropractors when my back goes out of alignment, and each time it has worked for me to ease the pain and increase mobility.Use a credentialed physiotherapist.
As an aside - chiro is absolute bulls
t, My back is delicate, and without significant and invasive surgery, it is always likely to be delicate. Physio has worked for more muscular issues, but the root problem is always the same, and always fixed with chiro.
jackh707 said:
jimreed said:
Osteopathy and chiropractic medicine are snake oil.
Use a credentialed physiotherapist.
As an aside - chiro is absolute bullst,
Agreed, they are no better than a medium or tarot reader. Use a credentialed physiotherapist.
As an aside - chiro is absolute bulls
t, There is a reason physiotherapy is a 3 year degree and they are regarded as health care professional.
Those claiming that chiropractors and osteopaths are touting snake oil simply demonstrate that they have no idea what they are talking about.
There are some types of osteopathy I wouldn't entertain (cranial - look it up).
However there are good and bad in all professions. One osteopath I went to in Banbury was a total crackpot.
You just need to find someone who you're comfortable with and gets results for you.
I see a different osteopath now who usually sorts out any problems in one visit.
Saw him last week to deal with a back problem - it was the first time I'd needed to go in 4 years.
There are some types of osteopathy I wouldn't entertain (cranial - look it up).
However there are good and bad in all professions. One osteopath I went to in Banbury was a total crackpot.
You just need to find someone who you're comfortable with and gets results for you.
I see a different osteopath now who usually sorts out any problems in one visit.
Saw him last week to deal with a back problem - it was the first time I'd needed to go in 4 years.
I've used physio's and chiropractors & both have helped me out for different things.
For what you are looking for, I'd start with a reputable and recommended physiotherapist local to you. After 14 years, I'd expect some hard work to get things sorted. Don't skimp on the exercises they give you in between any sessions on "the table". It might feel worse before it gets better :-). Shoulders in particular are apparently a long haul (I injured mine playing football and it took ages to heal, even with physio...but that's what they told me on day 1).
For what you are looking for, I'd start with a reputable and recommended physiotherapist local to you. After 14 years, I'd expect some hard work to get things sorted. Don't skimp on the exercises they give you in between any sessions on "the table". It might feel worse before it gets better :-). Shoulders in particular are apparently a long haul (I injured mine playing football and it took ages to heal, even with physio...but that's what they told me on day 1).
Edited by Steve Campbell on Friday 4th August 14:36
I've only had experience with Physio's, far too much but hey ho.
Like everything the quality varies massively, some as suggested are happy to hand out exercise sheets. Good ones IME get more involved and for me it would be 50% of the time on the bed doing stretches/massages and 50% practising exercises or discussing treatment plans.
Like everything the quality varies massively, some as suggested are happy to hand out exercise sheets. Good ones IME get more involved and for me it would be 50% of the time on the bed doing stretches/massages and 50% practising exercises or discussing treatment plans.
Holy thread resurrection.
Over the yrs I've had 3 Chiropractors
1st Sorted me but dislocated my rib
2nd Total new age airy fairy nutter, operated from her front room
3rd OK but didn't really gel
Since then I've relocated to Stratford upon Avon and looking for a decent Chiro/Osteo. I've never been to an Osteo so think it'd be worth a try.
Upper back problems, a little curvature, compounded by a couple of fractured vertebra a few yrs ago,
Over the yrs I've had 3 Chiropractors
1st Sorted me but dislocated my rib
2nd Total new age airy fairy nutter, operated from her front room
3rd OK but didn't really gel
Since then I've relocated to Stratford upon Avon and looking for a decent Chiro/Osteo. I've never been to an Osteo so think it'd be worth a try.
Upper back problems, a little curvature, compounded by a couple of fractured vertebra a few yrs ago,
Physiotherapy is the only evidence based treatment of the three. The other two are relying on magic to heal you, and I'm not taking the piss when I say that. Do some research yourself from real credible sources, like the Cochrane library, not peoples' opinions and you will see this is the case.
Push for a decent physio, NHS is very much struggling, so you'll probably need to self finance if you want proper treatment, but better that than give your money to a charlatan.
If you go for a chiropractor or Osteopath, you will probably feel some benefit, but it doesn't last unless the condition is itself self limiting.
Push for a decent physio, NHS is very much struggling, so you'll probably need to self finance if you want proper treatment, but better that than give your money to a charlatan.
If you go for a chiropractor or Osteopath, you will probably feel some benefit, but it doesn't last unless the condition is itself self limiting.
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