Always Tired
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Wildfire

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9,948 posts

281 months

Monday 4th September 2017
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Hi all

Over the last few months I have been almost permanently tired, struggling to get up and generally feeling fatigued. Since I was knocked off the bike I have been taking the train in to work (around 1.5 hours on 2 trains) and as soon as I'm sat down I am asleep.

On the days I can work from home I get around an 1 -1.5 hours more a night, but still feel shattered each morning.

I get on average 6.5 hours a night sleep, hit the gym 3 times a week and generally eat well. I don't really drink during the week.

I am pretty busy, working full time, doing freelance bits, helping a mate develop his heating business, directing a play and occasionally teaching martial arts (once a month) and the occasional motorbike club stuff. But I've always had a fair bit on and I don't think too much has changed recently, aside from a change in management with my current client and I get on with her very well.

I only drink 1 coffee a day in the morning.

Because of work, the OH and I go to bed around 11-ish and get up at 6am.

I've recently invested in a new "hybrid sleeping duck mattress" as I think my last mattress was well past it's best. This has made nights more comfortable, but I am just always fatigued!

Any advice on keeping the energy levels up?

C0ffin D0dger

3,440 posts

174 months

Monday 4th September 2017
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If you're really concerned then it can't hurt to have a word with your GP, could be any number of things like sleep apnea, thyroid issues, etc.

I'm also in a relative state of permanent knackeredness but I blame that on the kids (4 & 6) though most of the time they do now manage to sleep all night.
It's when you do get the odd blip like this weekend when my son got up at 02:30 unable to go to sleep, the wife eventually gave up and took him downstairs but then my daughter was up at 05:30. That was a long day.

Mr Pointy

13,336 posts

188 months

Monday 4th September 2017
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Go to bed earlier. You're not getting enough sleep.

TwistingMyMelon

6,507 posts

234 months

Monday 4th September 2017
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Get more sleep and commute less

I usually have around 6.5 hours sleep and its not really enough , id say 7 hours minimum.

Take a holiday, or at least a few days off and do nothing but recupirate and take it from there

Wildfire

Original Poster:

9,948 posts

281 months

Monday 4th September 2017
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TwistingMyMelon said:
Get more sleep and commute less

I usually have around 6.5 hours sleep and its not really enough , id say 7 hours minimum.

Take a holiday, or at least a few days off and do nothing but recupirate and take it from there
Commuting less isn't really an option as I have a little flexibility, but not enough for it to be regular. Once I get my bike back I will manage an extra 45 min a night, which will make it more like 6.5-7.5 hours as opposed to 5.5 - 6.5.

SantaBarbara

3,244 posts

137 months

Monday 4th September 2017
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Iron tablets

RizzoTheRat

28,839 posts

221 months

Monday 4th September 2017
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Try just going to bed earlier. My wife's a teacher and in the holidays she goes to be later as she's having a lie in in the morning. This invariable means I go to bed later but still get up at the same time and spend the summer knackered until I persuade her to start going to be a more sensible time (usually by making plenty of noise in the morning so she wakes up biggrin)

BRR

1,907 posts

201 months

Monday 4th September 2017
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Try getting more sleep and supplementing with some iron and Vit D

also may be worth getting your GP to test you for thyroid function and Testosterone

CAPP0

20,851 posts

232 months

Monday 4th September 2017
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You could also be asked to test for vit B12 deficiency, aka pernicious anaemia. They found that with me, purely by chance during routine blood tests. I now have to have a B12 jab every 3 months, as the body can't absorb/process it from food or supplements - I could eat a bottle of B12 tablets and my levels wouldn't change.

There are several symptoms, one of which is fatigue. I must check my next due date as I've been feeling utterly knackered the past few days and still do today.

anonymous-user

83 months

Monday 4th September 2017
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Definately get your doctor to check your thyroid levels. On the plus side, if you do get diagnosed with hypo / hyper thyroidism, you get free prescriptions for life.

LordGrover

34,158 posts

241 months

Monday 4th September 2017
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I'd try sleeping more before medicating/supplementing. 6.1/2 hours is probably not enough - aim for 8 hours - clearly some need less, some need more but if you're tired it seems like you're not getting enough.
I went for decades getting by on 7 hours or less - never felt tired as such. Change of lifestyle meant I started going to bed earlier and sleeping through - about 8-8.1/2 hours a night and within days/weeks I had so much more energy. Didn't realise how much I was missing until then.

Wildfire

Original Poster:

9,948 posts

281 months

Monday 4th September 2017
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Thanks people, some things to think about. Once the bike is back I'll see if I can grab more sleep on a regular basis. I do take iron tablets sporadically, I'll try to get into a habit.

BoRED S2upid

21,044 posts

269 months

Monday 4th September 2017
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More coffee.

GCH

4,140 posts

231 months

Monday 4th September 2017
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Grahamdub said:
On the plus side, if you do get diagnosed with hypo / hyper thyroidism, you get free prescriptions for life.
Only for under active (hypothyroid), not over active (hyperthyroid).
Crazy but true.

Simon.

198 posts

250 months

Monday 4th September 2017
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Silly question, how dark is your room when you go to bed? Do you have dark heavy curtains or do they let in ambient light?

Sleeping in a really dark room has really improved my sleep, it helps that my local council turn off the street lights as well now days but I do find that if I sleep in a room that's not dark I don't get as much decent sleep as I would like.

In addition to that you may want to find out if you're leaving enough rest between workouts, yes I know it's only 3 workouts a week but are you getting enough rest, giving your body enough time to heal?

768

20,678 posts

125 months

Monday 4th September 2017
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CAPP0 said:
You could also be asked to test for vit B12 deficiency, aka pernicious anaemia. They found that with me, purely by chance during routine blood tests. I now have to have a B12 jab every 3 months, as the body can't absorb/process it from food or supplements - I could eat a bottle of B12 tablets and my levels wouldn't change.

There are several symptoms, one of which is fatigue. I must check my next due date as I've been feeling utterly knackered the past few days and still do today.
Minor tangent - you can have B12 deficiency without pernicious anaemia. Worth getting folate level checked at the same time, hopefully if you see a GP about unusual fatigue they'd be doing these anyway.

anonymous-user

83 months

Monday 4th September 2017
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GCH said:
Only for under active (hypothyroid), not over active (hyperthyroid).
Crazy but true.
I didn't know that. Luckily I'm under.

Wildfire

Original Poster:

9,948 posts

281 months

Monday 4th September 2017
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Simon. said:
Silly question, how dark is your room when you go to bed? Do you have dark heavy curtains or do they let in ambient light?

Sleeping in a really dark room has really improved my sleep, it helps that my local council turn off the street lights as well now days but I do find that if I sleep in a room that's not dark I don't get as much decent sleep as I would like.

In addition to that you may want to find out if you're leaving enough rest between workouts, yes I know it's only 3 workouts a week but are you getting enough rest, giving your body enough time to heal?
Not that dark actually. We have some black out curtains, but I suspect the curtain pole is too far off the wall and there is light leak. Probably doesn't help that we face a main road. We are a good 20 m back and on the 3rd floor and it's not really that busy after 19:30. Although there is not much I can do about that. I don't like ear plugs as I got into the habit a while ago, and then found I couldn't sleep at all without them.

When funds allow I'm going to look at replacing the window with high pressure seals and triple glazed.

It has been a recent thing though, maybe in the last 6 months it's gotten worse.

kev b

2,756 posts

195 months

Monday 4th September 2017
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I have OSA, (obstructive sleep apnoea) which caused a thyroid problem, sorting the OSA cured the hypothyroidism.

mcelliott

10,482 posts

210 months

Monday 4th September 2017
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Start riding the bike again.