lower back pain now ****ing me off!
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I've been prone to lower back aches over the years, but nothing too debilitating. This is mainly down to being over 6ft and fitting bathrooms for a living. In addition to this I broke my hip 12 years ago, but due to many other injuries at the same time they didn't replace it. I was told it would be arthritic within a year and that when the pain gets too much, I'm on a fast track list to sort it within 3 months. So 12 years have passed and I'm doing alright on the hip...or am I?
This is the end of week 5 of bad back pain. The sort that makes it difficult to sleep, put my socks on stand up after sitting. I went to the GP who unsurprisingly told me it was muscular and sent me to a physio. (GP does know my history). Physio reads notes and says 'it's muscular', rubs my back with a tennis ball and sends me home with exercises. Since then there has been no improvement and if anything, things have got worse.
I contacted the GP and asked to be referred to the hip consultant I saw 12 years ago. He told me that can only happen via a physio. So around we go in circles.
Since I started the exercises, which include stretching the hamstrings, I now get an unpleasant sensation down the back of my right thigh, behind the knee and the right hip. The broken one is the left as is the original pain. So now I'm like a f
king cripple trying to fit bathrooms!
So what now would the massive recommend? Pay for an MRI? Cause a scene at the GPs? Ask the physio to refer me to the hip consultant? What do I do next??
This is the end of week 5 of bad back pain. The sort that makes it difficult to sleep, put my socks on stand up after sitting. I went to the GP who unsurprisingly told me it was muscular and sent me to a physio. (GP does know my history). Physio reads notes and says 'it's muscular', rubs my back with a tennis ball and sends me home with exercises. Since then there has been no improvement and if anything, things have got worse.
I contacted the GP and asked to be referred to the hip consultant I saw 12 years ago. He told me that can only happen via a physio. So around we go in circles.
Since I started the exercises, which include stretching the hamstrings, I now get an unpleasant sensation down the back of my right thigh, behind the knee and the right hip. The broken one is the left as is the original pain. So now I'm like a f
king cripple trying to fit bathrooms!So what now would the massive recommend? Pay for an MRI? Cause a scene at the GPs? Ask the physio to refer me to the hip consultant? What do I do next??
I had an issue a few weeks back with my back. Did these three times a day and its all good again:
https://www.nhs.uk/Livewell/Backpain/Pages/low-bac...
https://www.nhs.uk/Livewell/Backpain/Pages/low-bac...
Physio has never worked for me.
Lower back muscles are easy to inflame, hard to train for strength and generally difficult to settle once they are unhappy.
Can I ask, do you have a washboard set of abs, or are you more powerfully built. Any core exercise like planks, squats and sit ups will help strengthen your back.
Once the pain of you back spreads into your hamstrings, it tends to be more serious. But it is still useful to stretch them, and to consciously lie flat and relax your back muscles. Also google a yoga exercise called salute to the sun. Very good for a back stretch.
Personally I would go to a good Chiropractor and see if your hips are in line. I know lots on here don't like them, but for me they have always been spot on.
bernhund said:
I've been prone to lower back aches over the years, but nothing too debilitating. This is mainly down to being over 6ft and fitting bathrooms for a living. In addition to this I broke my hip 12 years ago, but due to many other injuries at the same time they didn't replace it. I was told it would be arthritic within a year and that when the pain gets too much, I'm on a fast track list to sort it within 3 months. So 12 years have passed and I'm doing alright on the hip...or am I?
This is the end of week 5 of bad back pain. The sort that makes it difficult to sleep, put my socks on stand up after sitting. I went to the GP who unsurprisingly told me it was muscular and sent me to a physio. (GP does know my history). Physio reads notes and says 'it's muscular', rubs my back with a tennis ball and sends me home with exercises. Since then there has been no improvement and if anything, things have got worse.
I contacted the GP and asked to be referred to the hip consultant I saw 12 years ago. He told me that can only happen via a physio. So around we go in circles.
Since I started the exercises, which include stretching the hamstrings, I now get an unpleasant sensation down the back of my right thigh, behind the knee and the right hip. The broken one is the left as is the original pain. So now I'm like a fking cripple trying to fit bathrooms!
So what now would the massive recommend? Pay for an MRI? Cause a scene at the GPs? Ask the physio to refer me to the hip consultant? What do I do next??
I've had 2" missing out of one leg for more than thirty years. I *should* have a bad back but a good physio taught me how to protect it.This is the end of week 5 of bad back pain. The sort that makes it difficult to sleep, put my socks on stand up after sitting. I went to the GP who unsurprisingly told me it was muscular and sent me to a physio. (GP does know my history). Physio reads notes and says 'it's muscular', rubs my back with a tennis ball and sends me home with exercises. Since then there has been no improvement and if anything, things have got worse.
I contacted the GP and asked to be referred to the hip consultant I saw 12 years ago. He told me that can only happen via a physio. So around we go in circles.
Since I started the exercises, which include stretching the hamstrings, I now get an unpleasant sensation down the back of my right thigh, behind the knee and the right hip. The broken one is the left as is the original pain. So now I'm like a f
king cripple trying to fit bathrooms!So what now would the massive recommend? Pay for an MRI? Cause a scene at the GPs? Ask the physio to refer me to the hip consultant? What do I do next??
Find someone who can teach you to use your obliques to support your trunk, they're far stronger than your abdominals. Sounds like you're over-working your lower back muscles in an attempt to support yourself.
When my back feels like it wants to ache I can lock the obliques and feel them pull me into shape like a corset.
bernhund said:
227bhp said:
Get an apprentice.
That'll be my next post...'why can't I find anyone to be an apprentice'.You don't say how old you are which is an important factor and I agree that the chap who said leg pain is definitely a red flag to get something done.
You won't know until you've been scanned or X-rayed, I've got early signs of osteoarthritis in my spine so any bending over and lifting causes pain for a few days now, they recommended back exercises and Pilates, but it did F.A, if it's worn out, it's worn out....
227bhp said:
Yes, 'cause not many yoofs want to do the jobs you or I do. It is a serious option though, we aren't built to graft like cart horses all our lives, not the length of time we can live to now. It's usual to train someone and get them to do the donkey work like you probably used to.
You don't say how old you are which is an important factor and I agree that the chap who said leg pain is definitely a red flag to get something done.
You won't know until you've been scanned or X-rayed, I've got early signs of osteoarthritis in my spine so any bending over and lifting causes pain for a few days now, they recommended back exercises and Pilates, but it did F.A, if it's worn out, it's worn out....
Haha, you're right though. I've been after helpers for a year or more, but because there's not a keyboard at the end of your hands, but a drill, I can't find anyone!You don't say how old you are which is an important factor and I agree that the chap who said leg pain is definitely a red flag to get something done.
You won't know until you've been scanned or X-rayed, I've got early signs of osteoarthritis in my spine so any bending over and lifting causes pain for a few days now, they recommended back exercises and Pilates, but it did F.A, if it's worn out, it's worn out....
I'm 50 and full of nuts and bolts, but have always found a way to get things done and always will, but I'm not 21 anymore and do realise this is getting hard.
I was hoping I'd get an X ray through the original hip consultant, but perhaps following the advice on here, I might seem an osteopath in the meantime.
I have little knowledge, but I don't know how anyone can know what is going on inside without a scan or X-ray, so I would be chasing one of those.
One definite little gem of advice I can pass on is that after 40 you need to make sure you're getting plenty of calcium and vit D, usually in tablet form.
Do some research on that and why it is, I take 'Osteocare'.
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/health/diet/40-ways-to-n...
One definite little gem of advice I can pass on is that after 40 you need to make sure you're getting plenty of calcium and vit D, usually in tablet form.
Do some research on that and why it is, I take 'Osteocare'.
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/health/diet/40-ways-to-n...
There's no single magic bullet. But here's a list of the things that, when combined, helped me massively after my L3/4/5 injury in 2013:
- Fortnightly gentle Physio for first 3 months
- Monthly Chiro for 1 year, then quarterly forever
- 30 minutes a day in a hot tub or bath
- Disciplined and targeted gentle exercises every morning and night (I will keep this up until I die)
- New high quality mattress (expensive but sleep is when your body mends itself most)
- Posture: Consciously tilt lower hips forward when standing/walking to prevent over-extending the lower back
- 30 minutes gentle on cross-trainer every other day for 4 months, then move to gentle cycling/running
- After 6 months start some core training as advised by doc
- As little lifting as possible for 1 year, but if necessary very carefully and with straight back
I had my first relapse last weekend, which is debilitating again (currently lying on the floor), but am already recovering far more quickly than before because of all that work over the years.
- Fortnightly gentle Physio for first 3 months
- Monthly Chiro for 1 year, then quarterly forever
- 30 minutes a day in a hot tub or bath
- Disciplined and targeted gentle exercises every morning and night (I will keep this up until I die)
- New high quality mattress (expensive but sleep is when your body mends itself most)
- Posture: Consciously tilt lower hips forward when standing/walking to prevent over-extending the lower back
- 30 minutes gentle on cross-trainer every other day for 4 months, then move to gentle cycling/running
- After 6 months start some core training as advised by doc
- As little lifting as possible for 1 year, but if necessary very carefully and with straight back
I had my first relapse last weekend, which is debilitating again (currently lying on the floor), but am already recovering far more quickly than before because of all that work over the years.
Jacobyte said:
There's no single magic bullet. But here's a list of the things that, when combined, helped me massively after my L3/4/5 injury in 2013:
- Fortnightly gentle Physio for first 3 months
- Monthly Chiro for 1 year, then quarterly forever
- 30 minutes a day in a hot tub or bath
- Disciplined and targeted gentle exercises every morning and night (I will keep this up until I die)
- New high quality mattress (expensive but sleep is when your body mends itself most)
- Posture: Consciously tilt lower hips forward when standing/walking to prevent over-extending the lower back
- 30 minutes gentle on cross-trainer every other day for 4 months, then move to gentle cycling/running
- After 6 months start some core training as advised by doc
- As little lifting as possible for 1 year, but if necessary very carefully and with straight back
I had my first relapse last weekend, which is debilitating again (currently lying on the floor), but am already recovering far more quickly than before because of all that work over the years.
Noted. I will say I'm in least pain when walking ( not with the dog!). Sitting down for 10 minutes is bad news. Getting out of my Transit or Qashquai kills me, but bizarrely my Noble is the easiest!!!- Fortnightly gentle Physio for first 3 months
- Monthly Chiro for 1 year, then quarterly forever
- 30 minutes a day in a hot tub or bath
- Disciplined and targeted gentle exercises every morning and night (I will keep this up until I die)
- New high quality mattress (expensive but sleep is when your body mends itself most)
- Posture: Consciously tilt lower hips forward when standing/walking to prevent over-extending the lower back
- 30 minutes gentle on cross-trainer every other day for 4 months, then move to gentle cycling/running
- After 6 months start some core training as advised by doc
- As little lifting as possible for 1 year, but if necessary very carefully and with straight back
I had my first relapse last weekend, which is debilitating again (currently lying on the floor), but am already recovering far more quickly than before because of all that work over the years.
I can only agree with the advice given. Get xray MRI to make sure nothing Major first.
I have given myself sciatica from sitting with bad posture and a recent house move/rennovation overcooking myself.
I have semi fixed it with stretching, massaging and changing the way i Train (daily stretching has been most effective).
I say semi as most of the pain symptons has gone but i recognise i have woefully underdeveloped lower back muscles- not because im small or unfit but because as ive got older the added stiffness has given me Problems.
I reckon i will be back in the game 100% in the early new year.
I have given myself sciatica from sitting with bad posture and a recent house move/rennovation overcooking myself.
I have semi fixed it with stretching, massaging and changing the way i Train (daily stretching has been most effective).
I say semi as most of the pain symptons has gone but i recognise i have woefully underdeveloped lower back muscles- not because im small or unfit but because as ive got older the added stiffness has given me Problems.
I reckon i will be back in the game 100% in the early new year.
I have chronic lower back pain and occasional sciatica. In my case its down to sitting behind a desk for 20 odd years and developing something called anterior pelvic tilt. Then when I started to get fit and started strength training I made it 10 times worse doing squats and deadlifts with incorrect form for my very poor posture!
Physio helped me, stretching my hips, foam rolling my lower back and re-learning how to squat without destroying my lower back. Mind you even though I can squat and deadlift heavy and my back is okay, I recently re-fitted our bathroom and it was killing for days! I swear next time I'm putting my weight lifting belt on to do DIY.
Also, if you can get it, Naproxin is your friend.
Physio helped me, stretching my hips, foam rolling my lower back and re-learning how to squat without destroying my lower back. Mind you even though I can squat and deadlift heavy and my back is okay, I recently re-fitted our bathroom and it was killing for days! I swear next time I'm putting my weight lifting belt on to do DIY.
Also, if you can get it, Naproxin is your friend.
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