Blood in the toilet
Discussion
I believe the official term is rectal bleeding.
I've been seeing fresh blood in the bowl after a poo, intermittently for the last few months. No pain what so ever before, during or after. No change to frequency, size, shape, colour, consistency etc
I've got a GP appointment booked but just wondering if anyone else has had this sort of thing, what happened at your first appointment, what was the cause, treatment etc. I'm aware this can be a sign of bowel cancer which kind of concerns me. Could also be a few other less concerning things but I just found out a guy I know had exactly the same thing and ended up having half his bowel removed, hence I decided to see GP, just in case!
I've been seeing fresh blood in the bowl after a poo, intermittently for the last few months. No pain what so ever before, during or after. No change to frequency, size, shape, colour, consistency etc
I've got a GP appointment booked but just wondering if anyone else has had this sort of thing, what happened at your first appointment, what was the cause, treatment etc. I'm aware this can be a sign of bowel cancer which kind of concerns me. Could also be a few other less concerning things but I just found out a guy I know had exactly the same thing and ended up having half his bowel removed, hence I decided to see GP, just in case!
If it's bright red it's highly likely to just be piles, internal or external, or an anal fissure. Nothing to worry about but none the less worth checking.
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Hi, had the same a while ago and for the amount of red I thought something serious was going on. I'd rung SIL whom is a nurse and she said take a photo when this happens - as it was I'd still not flushed, so in this instance I could. The blood was almost "Royal Mail" red, which is a good thing as it is oxygenated blood from a tear near the end of your naughty poo tunnel system, perhaps even outside on your bum.
What is bad is black googy type blood bits as that implies old blood, e.g. could have originated from insides you a few / many hours before.
In my case, it was a pile, Gerymalin (SP?) sorted it over a few days, though from first wipe on the blood occurrence I still had a lot of blood sometimes from a small internal cut?? Baby wipes and a much reduction in wiping per bottom unit area helped, as did Bepanthan cream.
That was a few years ago, had a few singular plies since and whilst each time first reaction is "oh, s
t" it is always OK on bloods thought with GP for other reasons so you're right to get first test checked out!
What is bad is black googy type blood bits as that implies old blood, e.g. could have originated from insides you a few / many hours before.
In my case, it was a pile, Gerymalin (SP?) sorted it over a few days, though from first wipe on the blood occurrence I still had a lot of blood sometimes from a small internal cut?? Baby wipes and a much reduction in wiping per bottom unit area helped, as did Bepanthan cream.
That was a few years ago, had a few singular plies since and whilst each time first reaction is "oh, s
t" it is always OK on bloods thought with GP for other reasons so you're right to get first test checked out!Any mucus? Could indicate ulcerative colitis.
I’ve had that on and off for 20yrs, with varying degrees of bleeding.
Get down the docs, but obviously prepare yourself for a swift “I just need to inspect your back passage” followed by a vaseline’d finger up your wrong ‘un!
Quite possibly some form of sigmoidoscopy/colonoscopy might follow, I’ve had several over the years. In all honesty the thought of it is worse than the actual process, or rather the ‘clear out’ you have to have the night before is rather staggering the first time you do it - like the world’s worst case of liquid sts, until there is no more - but important to get a look at your insides. That you can watch on a monitor as your innards are probed is something people find interesting or off putting in equal measure.
After 20yrs of real struggle I am finally under the clinic of an excellent Gastro team at my local hospital, I’m on a course of medication that is keeping everything in remission. Don’t hang about getting checked out is my advice.
I’ve had that on and off for 20yrs, with varying degrees of bleeding.
Get down the docs, but obviously prepare yourself for a swift “I just need to inspect your back passage” followed by a vaseline’d finger up your wrong ‘un!
Quite possibly some form of sigmoidoscopy/colonoscopy might follow, I’ve had several over the years. In all honesty the thought of it is worse than the actual process, or rather the ‘clear out’ you have to have the night before is rather staggering the first time you do it - like the world’s worst case of liquid s
ts, until there is no more - but important to get a look at your insides. That you can watch on a monitor as your innards are probed is something people find interesting or off putting in equal measure. After 20yrs of real struggle I am finally under the clinic of an excellent Gastro team at my local hospital, I’m on a course of medication that is keeping everything in remission. Don’t hang about getting checked out is my advice.
Could be due to a polyp, I had small drops of blood a couple of times a month.
After about 6 months there were regular drops of blood so I made an appointment to see my GP who got me an appointment with a consultant 4 weeks later, the consultant asked me some questions and had a quick "poke" and said I needed a colonoscopy.
2 weeks went by before I got an appointment to have a colonoscopy, you are required to stop eating high fiber food at least 3 days before and stop solid food 24 hours beforehand and drink Moviprep (provided powered laxative) to clear out your colon.
At the hospital I chose not to have a local anesthetic as I didn't need or want anyone to wait around before and afterwards to take me home, the colonoscopy showed that I had a large size polyp and they took a biopsy.
The results of my biopsy were negative for cancer, but they wanted to remove (polypectomy) the polyp which meant I had to go back for another colonoscopy and have the polyp cauterise (burnt off with an electric current).
Both procedures took 2 to 2.5 hours, including arriving 15 mins early (as requested), waiting to be "wheeled in", the procedure itself and resting time.
After about 6 months there were regular drops of blood so I made an appointment to see my GP who got me an appointment with a consultant 4 weeks later, the consultant asked me some questions and had a quick "poke" and said I needed a colonoscopy.
2 weeks went by before I got an appointment to have a colonoscopy, you are required to stop eating high fiber food at least 3 days before and stop solid food 24 hours beforehand and drink Moviprep (provided powered laxative) to clear out your colon.
At the hospital I chose not to have a local anesthetic as I didn't need or want anyone to wait around before and afterwards to take me home, the colonoscopy showed that I had a large size polyp and they took a biopsy.
The results of my biopsy were negative for cancer, but they wanted to remove (polypectomy) the polyp which meant I had to go back for another colonoscopy and have the polyp cauterise (burnt off with an electric current).
Both procedures took 2 to 2.5 hours, including arriving 15 mins early (as requested), waiting to be "wheeled in", the procedure itself and resting time.
Bright blood is definitely from the tailpipe, not the exhaust manifold.
I had a flexible sigmoidoscopy followed by a colonoscopy complete
with the Turbo-Lax prep. Biopsies were taken. These were weird
because the little claw is ripping out bits of your innards but there
are no nerves so all I felt was a little tugging.
I had developed what was described as 'indeterminate coliti's, meaning
"We don't know why it's there." All was fine after a while on salicylate
medication. The follow-up colonocopy was intensive. The camera was
sent across the curved Toblerone (transverse colon) and as far the end
of my small intestine. Any further and my tonsils would have shown up on screen.
I then got a nasty fissure (tear) after becoming constipated. This was a painful and bloody
business. The fix was injections of Botox into the rectum to relax it and give it chance to heal.
This was done under general anaesthetic. The fissure's let go again since (more claret in the po + pain.)
Using Lactulose for a while lets it heal.
By the way, we all have a rectal structure in which the 'tube' is in two parts. The junction
between the two is called the dentate line or pectinate line. If the damage is North of this
line, there is little or no pain because the area isn't rich with nerves. South of the line, you
know all about it.
HTH
I had a flexible sigmoidoscopy followed by a colonoscopy complete
with the Turbo-Lax prep. Biopsies were taken. These were weird
because the little claw is ripping out bits of your innards but there
are no nerves so all I felt was a little tugging.
I had developed what was described as 'indeterminate coliti's, meaning
"We don't know why it's there." All was fine after a while on salicylate
medication. The follow-up colonocopy was intensive. The camera was
sent across the curved Toblerone (transverse colon) and as far the end
of my small intestine. Any further and my tonsils would have shown up on screen.
I then got a nasty fissure (tear) after becoming constipated. This was a painful and bloody
business. The fix was injections of Botox into the rectum to relax it and give it chance to heal.
This was done under general anaesthetic. The fissure's let go again since (more claret in the po + pain.)
Using Lactulose for a while lets it heal.
By the way, we all have a rectal structure in which the 'tube' is in two parts. The junction
between the two is called the dentate line or pectinate line. If the damage is North of this
line, there is little or no pain because the area isn't rich with nerves. South of the line, you
know all about it.
HTH
I have / have this.
I ignored it, buried it for a long time (months) and finally plucked up the courage to go to the GP. As above, bright red - not mixed in with the poo.
I was mildly terrified in the end but it turned out to be piles. From your description, it sounds the same. I should have gone much earlier, just typically male in trying to pretend it hadn’t happened.
I ignored it, buried it for a long time (months) and finally plucked up the courage to go to the GP. As above, bright red - not mixed in with the poo.
I was mildly terrified in the end but it turned out to be piles. From your description, it sounds the same. I should have gone much earlier, just typically male in trying to pretend it hadn’t happened.
He/she will ask you what colour the blood is. If it's bright red, it's normally the Chalfonts, or similar. I had the camera up my bum a couple of years ago, the doctor game me "something to help me relax". I went to sleep. When I woke, I asked how they were getting on - all done! They found a couple of polyps which they lassooed with surgical thread, or something and snipped them off.
RC1807 said:
Probably only piles
Still, at least a phone call to the GP surgery will get you an appointment when the bossy receptionist asks what the problem is, and you reply, "My arse is bleeding!", or something
Tried calling 111?
Pay attention.Still, at least a phone call to the GP surgery will get you an appointment when the bossy receptionist asks what the problem is, and you reply, "My arse is bleeding!", or something
Tried calling 111?
He is going to see the quack this morning.
Good for going to the GP so quick, also for observing what you’re passing in the toilet.
It could be something as simple as a slight tear of the anal skin from a large stool or skin damage from sweat moisture. It’ll tear very easily for a week or so and produce fresh looking blood.
Regarding bowel cancer mainly affecting over 50s, I know three guys who had it below the age of 40. Two died (32 and 36) but the other managed to catch it early enough (37).
It could be something as simple as a slight tear of the anal skin from a large stool or skin damage from sweat moisture. It’ll tear very easily for a week or so and produce fresh looking blood.
Regarding bowel cancer mainly affecting over 50s, I know three guys who had it below the age of 40. Two died (32 and 36) but the other managed to catch it early enough (37).
After a very quick poke around inside, he couldn't feel/see anything of concern. Suggested it could be piles that appear and retract throughout the day so got some pile cream. Also booked a blood test for a few weeks time. He said that if it's still a problem after finishing the cream, he'll book an appointment to shove a camera up there for a proper look.
Sounds like he's following standard practice for a 'low risk' cancer patient. The prevalence of young people, seemingly low risk, getting cancer though still makes me slightly nervous.
Sounds like he's following standard practice for a 'low risk' cancer patient. The prevalence of young people, seemingly low risk, getting cancer though still makes me slightly nervous.
Wobbegong said:
Good for going to the GP so quick, also for observing what you’re passing in the toilet.
It could be something as simple as a slight tear of the anal skin from a large stool or skin damage from sweat moisture. It’ll tear very easily for a week or so and produce fresh looking blood.
Regarding bowel cancer mainly affecting over 50s, I know three guys who had it below the age of 40. Two died (32 and 36) but the other managed to catch it early enough (37).
It's still a rare occurrence though. I don't know anyone who's had it below 40 and only 1 person in their 40s. That isn't many considering how many people the average person comes across (no sniggering at the back) during their lives.It could be something as simple as a slight tear of the anal skin from a large stool or skin damage from sweat moisture. It’ll tear very easily for a week or so and produce fresh looking blood.
Regarding bowel cancer mainly affecting over 50s, I know three guys who had it below the age of 40. Two died (32 and 36) but the other managed to catch it early enough (37).
xx99xx said:
After a very quick poke around inside, he couldn't feel/see anything of concern. Suggested it could be piles that appear and retract throughout the day so got some pile cream. Also booked a blood test for a few weeks time. He said that if it's still a problem after finishing the cream, he'll book an appointment to shove a camera up there for a proper look.
Sounds like he's following standard practice for a 'low risk' cancer patient. The prevalence of young people, seemingly low risk, getting cancer though still makes me slightly nervous.
Eat more fruit and veg. Sounds like he's following standard practice for a 'low risk' cancer patient. The prevalence of young people, seemingly low risk, getting cancer though still makes me slightly nervous.
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