IBS and foodmap diet
Discussion
After best of a decade of being rotated between GP's at my doctor's practice and a bunch of check-ups with the specialists at the hospital I've now been told my symptoms are more likely than not IBS.
Had suspected IBS for some time. I guess it's good to have other, more serious, things excluded.
GP has given me a fodmap diet fact sheet and asked me to look into it for symptom relief.
Looks complicated and am quite intimidated about taking it on. Just looks like a massive list of restrictions.
Anyone got advice on fodmap, how hard is it to do, will I need to have a dietitian, if I need a dietitian is it reasonable to assume NHS would provide???
Any real-life experience of this would be a massive help
Had suspected IBS for some time. I guess it's good to have other, more serious, things excluded.
GP has given me a fodmap diet fact sheet and asked me to look into it for symptom relief.
Looks complicated and am quite intimidated about taking it on. Just looks like a massive list of restrictions.
Anyone got advice on fodmap, how hard is it to do, will I need to have a dietitian, if I need a dietitian is it reasonable to assume NHS would provide???
Any real-life experience of this would be a massive help
Hi,
Like you - been passed around various Dr's and specialists for the past 5 years or so with camera's "up" and "down" and multiple tests, but nothing concrete discovered. So was recently diagnosed with IBS which they are currently putting down to stress and lifestyle (travel for work 6-7 months of the year, different timezones / times eating, high pressure job, poor home life etc etc etc).
Started to really watch my diet and exercise about 18 months ago and have lost around 25kg - now down to around 75kg.
Stomach / diarrhoea incidents not any better so made a fuss at my last gastro appointment and now been referred to a Dietician who wants to run me on a FODMAP diet. Got my first appointment in a few weeks time.
Researching it - seems to group foods and you work through the various groups to find what affects you and what doesn't ??
Challenge for me I think will be keeping to it strictly and still travel, particularly to South East Asia - But will be interested to hear your results and how you manage it.
Cheers.
1/2p
Like you - been passed around various Dr's and specialists for the past 5 years or so with camera's "up" and "down" and multiple tests, but nothing concrete discovered. So was recently diagnosed with IBS which they are currently putting down to stress and lifestyle (travel for work 6-7 months of the year, different timezones / times eating, high pressure job, poor home life etc etc etc).
Started to really watch my diet and exercise about 18 months ago and have lost around 25kg - now down to around 75kg.
Stomach / diarrhoea incidents not any better so made a fuss at my last gastro appointment and now been referred to a Dietician who wants to run me on a FODMAP diet. Got my first appointment in a few weeks time.
Researching it - seems to group foods and you work through the various groups to find what affects you and what doesn't ??
Challenge for me I think will be keeping to it strictly and still travel, particularly to South East Asia - But will be interested to hear your results and how you manage it.
Cheers.
1/2p
Fodmap saved my life. I really mean it. You do a month on it being super strict, which will allow your symptoms to settle, then you add one food back in at a time and learn what triggers symptoms.
I went from 20+ pills a day and still feeling bad to 0 and feeling great in about 3 weeks. It allowed me time and space to sort out some stress issues and now I'm back to a normal diet. Good luck with it, dude
I went from 20+ pills a day and still feeling bad to 0 and feeling great in about 3 weeks. It allowed me time and space to sort out some stress issues and now I'm back to a normal diet. Good luck with it, dude
I'm currently suffering a lot with my IBS. Haven't been too bad for a few years. In the last week though it's really flared up. It's been hell for me. Went to the doctor's yesterday and the said my symptoms are being caused by bad IBS.
I'll take a look at this diet to see if it helps.
I have general anxiety disorder, so that doesn't help.
I'll take a look at this diet to see if it helps.
I have general anxiety disorder, so that doesn't help.
funkyrobot said:
I'm currently suffering a lot with my IBS. Haven't been too bad for a few years. In the last week though it's really flared up. It's been hell for me. Went to the doctor's yesterday and the said my symptoms are being caused by bad IBS.
I'll take a look at this diet to see if it helps.
I have general anxiety disorder, so that doesn't help.
I'm going to bore PH by saying this, but try mindfulness.I'll take a look at this diet to see if it helps.
I have general anxiety disorder, so that doesn't help.
s2k_modern_classic said:
There was some stress around the time the flare-ups started, but to be honest been free of it for at least 10 years now. Symptoms just seem to be a part of day to day live with no real stress trigger I could point to
Are you generally stressed about work? Do you love all aspects of your job or are there some annoying bits that get you concerned, frustrated or angry? What about your personal life?Hoofy said:
funkyrobot said:
I'm currently suffering a lot with my IBS. Haven't been too bad for a few years. In the last week though it's really flared up. It's been hell for me. Went to the doctor's yesterday and the said my symptoms are being caused by bad IBS.
I'll take a look at this diet to see if it helps.
I have general anxiety disorder, so that doesn't help.
I'm going to bore PH by saying this, but try mindfulness.I'll take a look at this diet to see if it helps.
I have general anxiety disorder, so that doesn't help.
funkyrobot said:
Hoofy said:
funkyrobot said:
I'm currently suffering a lot with my IBS. Haven't been too bad for a few years. In the last week though it's really flared up. It's been hell for me. Went to the doctor's yesterday and the said my symptoms are being caused by bad IBS.
I'll take a look at this diet to see if it helps.
I have general anxiety disorder, so that doesn't help.
I'm going to bore PH by saying this, but try mindfulness.I'll take a look at this diet to see if it helps.
I have general anxiety disorder, so that doesn't help.
These two yters are knowledgeable and helpful to those who suffer.
Gojiman
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC8zKmTVcs5s3IIR2D...Heal your gut guy
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCvk6BbLZLcgDSpUlR...I was just coming back on here to find the other thread about IBS, then saw this one.....
I'd been taking various drugs for what was diagnised as IBS, for about 10 year (Duspatalin, then Spasmomen). I had a colonoscopy a couple of years ago, nothing found. Earlier this year I pressured my GP to find out what the cause was, since I'd been getting repeat scrips every few months, and I wanted to stop taking daily meds. I had tests for allergies (fructose, sucrose, lactose, bloods for coeliac, etc.), another colonoscopy, where all was OK.
Lastly I had an endoscopy. A sample taken during that found I had the Helicbacter Pylori bacteria - and it was quite bad.
H.P causes symptoms that are very much like IBS!
Random weblink: https://www.webmd.com/digestive-disorders/h-pylori...
After 2 weeks of high dose antibiotics, and I'm finally "back to normal" (on the stools scale!)
First time in about 10 years.
Joking aside, there's nothing more satifying than being able to have a good, stiff s
t! 
On the Bristol Scale I was more 6-7, now I'm a 2-3.
Diet, when you're older (I'm 48), less booze, more exercise, etc., all still help, but if you've a long standing infection, like I had, it's easily misleading to another diagnosis. I think I could have caught the bacteria as long ago as on holiday in Vietnam in 2008!
I'd been taking various drugs for what was diagnised as IBS, for about 10 year (Duspatalin, then Spasmomen). I had a colonoscopy a couple of years ago, nothing found. Earlier this year I pressured my GP to find out what the cause was, since I'd been getting repeat scrips every few months, and I wanted to stop taking daily meds. I had tests for allergies (fructose, sucrose, lactose, bloods for coeliac, etc.), another colonoscopy, where all was OK.
Lastly I had an endoscopy. A sample taken during that found I had the Helicbacter Pylori bacteria - and it was quite bad.
H.P causes symptoms that are very much like IBS!
Random weblink: https://www.webmd.com/digestive-disorders/h-pylori...
After 2 weeks of high dose antibiotics, and I'm finally "back to normal" (on the stools scale!)
First time in about 10 years.
Joking aside, there's nothing more satifying than being able to have a good, stiff s
t! On the Bristol Scale I was more 6-7, now I'm a 2-3.
Diet, when you're older (I'm 48), less booze, more exercise, etc., all still help, but if you've a long standing infection, like I had, it's easily misleading to another diagnosis. I think I could have caught the bacteria as long ago as on holiday in Vietnam in 2008!
Good go too's if you are doing fodmap for the first time and want to get through the elimation stage and still be able to grab something easy for lunch.
First point - accept that usually you'll need to prepare your own lunch. Main go to's for me are:
1. Soughdough (idealy Spelt but all the real sourdoughs are lower fodmap than regular bread) - Gails is good and freezes well. Ham, Chicken smoked salmon all really easy - just leave out the butter in the restriction phase
2. Quinoa is your friend - makes a good bulky salad with pretty much everything, it takes a few goes to learn to cook it right and then season with oil and vinegar when cooked and cooled
3. Basic salads - bag of salad and some prawns or chicken is pretty good staple also! You can get them at any of the Tesco Metro type places
In terms of lunches to grab, it is a nightmare. Sushi joints are the best option, but not everyone's cup of tea I know
After restriction life usually gets easier, most people personalise and therefore eat much wider spectrum within a month or two
First point - accept that usually you'll need to prepare your own lunch. Main go to's for me are:
1. Soughdough (idealy Spelt but all the real sourdoughs are lower fodmap than regular bread) - Gails is good and freezes well. Ham, Chicken smoked salmon all really easy - just leave out the butter in the restriction phase
2. Quinoa is your friend - makes a good bulky salad with pretty much everything, it takes a few goes to learn to cook it right and then season with oil and vinegar when cooked and cooled
3. Basic salads - bag of salad and some prawns or chicken is pretty good staple also! You can get them at any of the Tesco Metro type places
In terms of lunches to grab, it is a nightmare. Sushi joints are the best option, but not everyone's cup of tea I know
After restriction life usually gets easier, most people personalise and therefore eat much wider spectrum within a month or two
Dead easy. Eat a high fat, very low carb, low (to medium maybe) protein diet. Your ibs will clear up immediately as well. Do Not under any circumstances eat processed carbs, they are without doubt the root cause of most western food ailments. The 'fibre' that food companies bang on about are disguised processed carbs, and not the fibre found in natural food. Humans need hardly any fibre. It's surprising that on a high fat diet most people's bowel activity will say, tighten up, with no fibre at all, it goes against everything the medical community will tell you. That type of diet was used in the 30s to control epilepsy as well.
markcoznottz said:
Dead easy. Eat a high fat, very low carb, low (to medium maybe) protein diet. Your ibs will clear up immediately as well. Do Not under any circumstances eat processed carbs, they are without doubt the root cause of most western food ailments. The 'fibre' that food companies bang on about are disguised processed carbs, and not the fibre found in natural food. Humans need hardly any fibre. It's surprising that on a high fat diet most people's bowel activity will say, tighten up, with no fibre at all, it goes against everything the medical community will tell you. That type of diet was used in the 30s to control epilepsy as well.
Well that's just bks isn't it? There are different types of IBS with very differing symptoms and ways to manage it. Even following a FODMAP diet and sticking to low numbered foods is different for each person. High fat, low carb would trigger gastritis, bloating, cramps and constipation in many sufferers of IBS-C.bigpriest said:
markcoznottz said:
Dead easy. Eat a high fat, very low carb, low (to medium maybe) protein diet. Your ibs will clear up immediately as well. Do Not under any circumstances eat processed carbs, they are without doubt the root cause of most western food ailments. The 'fibre' that food companies bang on about are disguised processed carbs, and not the fibre found in natural food. Humans need hardly any fibre. It's surprising that on a high fat diet most people's bowel activity will say, tighten up, with no fibre at all, it goes against everything the medical community will tell you. That type of diet was used in the 30s to control epilepsy as well.
Well that's just bks isn't it? There are different types of IBS with very differing symptoms and ways to manage it. Even following a FODMAP diet and sticking to low numbered foods is different for each person. High fat, low carb would trigger gastritis, bloating, cramps and constipation in many sufferers of IBS-C.ks too. You can’t just say that one diet will fix everyone when you don’t know anything about them.OP I didn’t have the willpower to stick to the FODMAP diet but did take note of what I’d eaten on previous days when feeling bad. My diet isn’t the healthiest in normal terms but doesn’t give me anywhere near as many problems as some of the stuff various doctors suggested.
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