The rise in autism levels
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Pistonheader101 said:
whats driving this? seems like more and more kids have been diagnosed with autism these days - is the threshold changing for this? is it access to the internet/smartphones etc causing autistic levels?
Identification of it has presumably increased. I really dont think it has anything to do with the internet.Deep Thought said:
Pistonheader101 said:
whats driving this? seems like more and more kids have been diagnosed with autism these days - is the threshold changing for this? is it access to the internet/smartphones etc causing autistic levels?
Identification of it has presumably increased. I really dont think it has anything to do with the internet.I only wish I knew what did cause it, along with millions of others I should imagine.
mike74 said:
I'm sure it's nothing at all to do with the additional benefits available if you can get yourself or especially your kids diagnosed as being ''OTS'' or ''SEN'' or whatever other acronym is in fashion.
Righto, my last post on this thread. Having spent 20 years dealing with autism, this sort of conkers boils my piss. Just f
k off. We can't say whether it has or hasn't as yet.
Given diagnosis has changed we have no common data set against which to benchmark.
It's as likely that mobile phones, playstations or Lidl sausages have caused the increase, as it is we're just diagnosing more.
We can however say that as medical science improves, babies with complex special needs increase as otherwise they would have died at birth, which is a difficult realisation to wrestle with!
Given diagnosis has changed we have no common data set against which to benchmark.
It's as likely that mobile phones, playstations or Lidl sausages have caused the increase, as it is we're just diagnosing more.
We can however say that as medical science improves, babies with complex special needs increase as otherwise they would have died at birth, which is a difficult realisation to wrestle with!
I think it has more to do with increased awareness of the autistic spectrum more than anything external.
Years ago many children who would have probably been placed on the spectrum growing up now would have slipped through the net of being diagnosed providing they were high functioning.
Now with increasing awareness of 'milder' forms of autism such as Asperger's means more high functioning autistic children are now receiving the help and treatment they need, instead of being simply labelled 'a bit strange' and left to fend for themselves with no additional support, like so many in generations gone past.
Years ago many children who would have probably been placed on the spectrum growing up now would have slipped through the net of being diagnosed providing they were high functioning.
Now with increasing awareness of 'milder' forms of autism such as Asperger's means more high functioning autistic children are now receiving the help and treatment they need, instead of being simply labelled 'a bit strange' and left to fend for themselves with no additional support, like so many in generations gone past.
Autism is a spectrum, many are on the 'not autistic, just had crap parents or just a bit different as we all are' end.
Feel for parents of severely autistic kids though, as a tough life to have.
Unfortunately the scummy type will always realise any opportunity to benefit from.
Feel for parents of severely autistic kids though, as a tough life to have.
mike74 said:
I'm sure it's nothing at all to do with the additional benefits available if you can get yourself or especially your kids diagnosed as being ''OTS'' or ''SEN'' or whatever other acronym is in fashion.
Unfortunately the scummy type will always realise any opportunity to benefit from.Edited by hyphen on Sunday 30th December 14:36
It's because these days we accept some children have these issues and we try to help them.
Whereas in the past they were branded stupid/lazy, humiliated in front of the class, and constantly punished until they 'got the message'.
Because obviously that's all someone with a medical condition needs...simply shout at them a lot until they stop having it!
Not like this attitude went back to the dark ages either, I've seen it done even in my (relatively) recent school days.
Whereas in the past they were branded stupid/lazy, humiliated in front of the class, and constantly punished until they 'got the message'.
Because obviously that's all someone with a medical condition needs...simply shout at them a lot until they stop having it!
Not like this attitude went back to the dark ages either, I've seen it done even in my (relatively) recent school days.
wiliferus said:
Autism itself isn’t on the increase. The awareness and diagnosis of the condition is better and thus increasing.
Actually autism IS on the increase, even accounting for new diagnostic techniques/screening at a younger age/increased awareness.CDC concludes more research urgently needed
https://www.autismspeaks.org/science-news/cdc-incr...
Hammer67 said:
Righto, my last post on this thread.
Having spent 20 years dealing with autism, this sort of conkers boils my piss. Just fk off.
Yes that's right because no one ever tries it on with a disingenuous/fraudulent claims do they?Having spent 20 years dealing with autism, this sort of conkers boils my piss. Just f
k off. If you had half a brain you'd realise these people do your cause no good what so ever.
As a recent example I'll refer you to recent thread on mumsnet where the poster was appealing for help in getting her teenage son diagnosed as being ''OTS''... she made no secret of the fact that the main reason for getting a successful diagnosis would be the increased benefits they could claim.
Oh and what symptoms was her son suffering from to make such a claim?... Well he occasionally didn't do his homework and he sometimes got in trouble for misbehaving in history class because he finds the subject boring.
The worrying thing about it was just about all the replies were offering help and support, all no doubt gullible numpties just like yourself.
I would suggest anyone who doubts such kids simply spend a day in a specialist school that they have to go to.
Do you really think that the parents train the kids to act the way they do and also fool the doctors etc, it is very hard to get a diagnosis these days, and specialist places are few and far between.
I went to my daughters school play a few weeks ago, not one of those poor kids would last in a mainstream school but they put on a hell of a show for us parents and guardians.
Do you really think that the parents train the kids to act the way they do and also fool the doctors etc, it is very hard to get a diagnosis these days, and specialist places are few and far between.
I went to my daughters school play a few weeks ago, not one of those poor kids would last in a mainstream school but they put on a hell of a show for us parents and guardians.
PAUL500 said:
I would suggest anyone who doubts such kids simply spend a day in a specialist school that they have to go to.
Do you really think that the parents train the kids to act the way they do and also fool the doctors etc, it is very hard to get a diagnosis these days, and specialist places are few and far between.
I went to my daughters school play a few weeks ago, not one of those poor kids would last in a mainstream school but they put on a hell of a show for us parents and guardians.
The intimation was a minority exploit the diagnosis condition, not all. No need to be offended on the internet Do you really think that the parents train the kids to act the way they do and also fool the doctors etc, it is very hard to get a diagnosis these days, and specialist places are few and far between.
I went to my daughters school play a few weeks ago, not one of those poor kids would last in a mainstream school but they put on a hell of a show for us parents and guardians.
PAUL500 said:
I would suggest anyone who doubts such kids simply spend a day in a specialist school that they have to go to.
Do you really think that the parents train the kids to act the way they do and also fool the doctors etc, it is very hard to get a diagnosis these days, and specialist places are few and far between.
I went to my daughters school play a few weeks ago, not one of those poor kids would last in a mainstream school but they put on a hell of a show for us parents and guardians.
The kids at specialist school are on the more extreme end of the spectrum though, no one would doubt they have conditions. Do you really think that the parents train the kids to act the way they do and also fool the doctors etc, it is very hard to get a diagnosis these days, and specialist places are few and far between.
I went to my daughters school play a few weeks ago, not one of those poor kids would last in a mainstream school but they put on a hell of a show for us parents and guardians.
I think the suspicions are more about the 'milder' symptoms end.
Look into vaccination protocol changes in the past decades.
Combi-vaccines with 3-5 vaccines in one shot, mainly in small babies whose nervous systems are not fully developed. Pharma companies are not required by law to publish the ingredients of vaccines. There are private courts to settle vaccine/autism claims in the US.
Screens....great book by Prof.Manfred Spitzer called “Digital Dementia”.
Combi-vaccines with 3-5 vaccines in one shot, mainly in small babies whose nervous systems are not fully developed. Pharma companies are not required by law to publish the ingredients of vaccines. There are private courts to settle vaccine/autism claims in the US.
Screens....great book by Prof.Manfred Spitzer called “Digital Dementia”.
mike74 said:
Hammer67 said:
Righto, my last post on this thread.
Having spent 20 years dealing with autism, this sort of conkers boils my piss. Just fk off.
Yes that's right because no one ever tries it on with a disingenuous/fraudulent claims do they?Having spent 20 years dealing with autism, this sort of conkers boils my piss. Just f
k off. If you had half a brain you'd realise these people do your cause no good what so ever.
As a recent example I'll refer you to recent thread on mumsnet where the poster was appealing for help in getting her teenage son diagnosed as being ''OTS''... she made no secret of the fact that the main reason for getting a successful diagnosis would be the increased benefits they could claim.
Oh and what symptoms was her son suffering from to make such a claim?... Well he occasionally didn't do his homework and he sometimes got in trouble for misbehaving in history class because he finds the subject boring.
The worrying thing about it was just about all the replies were offering help and support, all no doubt gullible numpties just like yourself.
If you had half a brain you'd realise that taking a recalcitrant teenager to an autism specialist won't result in a diagnosis.
The only gullible numpty here is someone who reads a thread on mumsnet and uses it as evidence to support an argument that the rise in levels of autism is down to benefit fraudsters.
Oh and what is my "cause" ?
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