Self tourniquet?
Author
Discussion

uncleluck

Original Poster:

484 posts

80 months

Thursday 6th February 2020
quotequote all
Any issues with creating a self tourniquet on my big toe?

I’m thinking zip tie (well this is a car forum)

Roughly how long is safe to leave it on for to perform a bit of surgery?

I’m hoping it’ll induce some numbness? Like pins n needles?

Am I mad?

I get a slither of my nail that grows in (& goes to a sharp point) and I’ve always managed to dig it out but my toe is really suffering this time and I tried for about an hour last night with a hooked dental pick and a watchmakers screwdriver and something to bite but the part that’s inside my toe is way longer than I’ve dealt with before & it really hurt.

It's got to that point where it’s infected & hurts just touching the outside of the toe let alone digging inside. I actually struggled to sleep last night because of it, I had hold of it at one point & was levering it out, I slipped & stuck the screwdriver right in the side where it’s infected.

Zip tie, shotgun two cans of san mig (I don’t drink so should work) in the 10 mins or so it takes to numb and go for it again while filming?

Starfighter

5,347 posts

207 months

Thursday 6th February 2020
quotequote all
You are mad.

Seek profession medical help from your GP practice nurse and a psychiatrist.

Fatball

645 posts

88 months

anonymous-user

83 months

Thursday 6th February 2020
quotequote all
uncleluck said:
I get a slither of my nail that grows in (& goes to a sharp point) and I’ve always managed to dig it out but my toe is really suffering this time
Make an appointment with a podiatrist straight away. Won't cost you much and they will either fix it easily, or refer you to the right person.

Totally unnecessary and risky to start training to become a podiatrist by experimenting on your own foot.

Baldchap

9,624 posts

121 months

Thursday 6th February 2020
quotequote all
Tourniquets are VERY dangerous if used incorrectly. They have even removed them from most first aid courses because in many cases they do more harm than good.

You can literally die when the blood that's been sat stagnant behind the tourniquet is released.

Don't do it. Or if you do, video it for the likes. laugh

Ed/L152

494 posts

266 months

Thursday 6th February 2020
quotequote all
Ice. Don't tourniquet.

But better to get someone who does it for a living to do it, rather than experiment on yourself.

Stuart70

4,163 posts

212 months

Thursday 6th February 2020
quotequote all
It’s your body, do to it as you wish.

It might be worth considering some form of professional intervention, before drunkenly atrophying your toe with a zip tie or stabbing yourself to death with a pairs of nail scissors and tweezers.

“How did the guy die, Mr Coroner?”
“Well he bled out through his big toe, the good news is that it didn’t have an ingrown toenail at the time of death”
“Stylish”, said the local newspaper reporter

smile

uncleluck

Original Poster:

484 posts

80 months

Thursday 6th February 2020
quotequote all
Ok, so silly then. Thought you lot would be boring (haha) I’m normally a bit more ‘go for it’ but was reluctant for some reason.

Baldchap said:
Tourniquets are VERY dangerous if used incorrectly. They have even removed them from most first aid courses because in many cases they do more harm than good.

You can literally die when the blood that's been sat stagnant behind the tourniquet is released.

Don't do it. Or if you do, video it for the likes. laugh
Thanks, yeah that was my only concern really.

But surely when we wake up with a totally dead arm/hand/leg we’ve slept and cut off the circulation for a long time? I woke up once and my left arm was completely dead, couldn’t even move it, was totally floppy and lifted it with my right arm & it didn’t even feel like mine. That must have been cut off a while.

Norfolk B-roads

3,367 posts

168 months

Thursday 6th February 2020
quotequote all
Tourniquets are ineffective unless they are really, really tight. Like tighter than you'd managed without snapping a cable tie, so that's a non-starter. If you ever need to apply one in a first-aid situation, when you think it's tight enough, tighten it some more. And then some more.

They're also a last resort. You don't do them temporarily, because if they're applied in a manner in which they are effective, they can cause serious damage.

Tourniquets are better than bleeding to death, but worse than just about anything else.

Don't be daft. Go see a professional.

FredAstaire

2,426 posts

241 months

Thursday 6th February 2020
quotequote all
I've been on the receiving end of a tourniquet on a visit to A+E.

Theyre tight. Damn tight. Excruciatingly tight. It aint a DIY job.

S100HP

13,783 posts

196 months

Thursday 6th February 2020
quotequote all
Do it, video it, and you'll make it onto bestgore.

Mags43

33 posts

148 months

Thursday 6th February 2020
quotequote all
I do this for a living.
Do not self tourniquet.
We use tourniquets in surgery to exsanguinate the toe, not for pain relief - we use injections of local anaesthetic for that.
If you did try doing this yourself, you could end up losing the toe completely.

gregs656

12,353 posts

210 months

Thursday 6th February 2020
quotequote all
Cable tie is madness. If you got it tight enough to be effective you would struggle to cut it off again.

I used to get these all the time and found the most effective thing was to pull the skin away from the nail with a plaster. Never failed, non invasive.

uncleluck

Original Poster:

484 posts

80 months

Thursday 6th February 2020
quotequote all
Tourniquet idea is shelved.

I will have a go at it later again but was just hoping for something to help the pain but it’s not the right idea. Really was just wanting to get that dead leg feeling

I’ve done the procedure many times but it’s never been this hard. I got under it last night & it’s definitely deep but the flesh around it is so painful. When I’ve done it in the past it’s instant relief when you hook the bit out though.

One reason I don’t want to go to a pro is my complete phobia of needles, cannot control & I will be a mess.

I didn’t go to the dentist for months when I had a bad tooth as I knew it’d be injections. Eventually it got so bad I went and she told me there was nothing wrong! I investigated myself and found the tooth was cracked.
It actually went right down through one of the roots so god knows how she missed it. After a while the pain actually subsided a lot but my tooth was in half. I thought about pulling it but it looked tough going so I super glued it together and it was superb! I could eat again! It’d last a week or so and then give and it’d have to do it again. I decided to go back to the dentist & they removed it FOC as she missed it.

i4got

5,929 posts

107 months

Thursday 6th February 2020
quotequote all
What about putting your foot in a bucket of iced water for 15 minutes or so before you tackle the nail?


uncleluck

Original Poster:

484 posts

80 months

Thursday 6th February 2020
quotequote all
gregs656 said:
Cable tie is madness. If you got it tight enough to be effective you would struggle to cut it off again.

I used to get these all the time and found the most effective thing was to pull the skin away from the nail with a plaster. Never failed, non invasive.
I wish it was that simple. They can’t have been very deep luckily.

My nail now curves round a lot & I reckon I dug down a good 5mm to the side last night, the side curling down isn’t the main pain issue that’s bare-able but the main issue is where I’ve previously cut the nail it leaves the bit you can’t see to keep growing. That bit is usually to a point and grows into my toe totally hidden from the surface or side and the first you know about it is when your toe starts to ache and then it gets really tender and you can feel on the side or near the front where it’s inside you by touching for the sharpest pain (which is where the point is)

Last few times I’ve braved it and dug it out I’ve literally pulled out a long thin bit of nail that is boring it’s way inside my toe. This time it’s the longest it’s been as I was really struggling to bend it back and pull it out as my nails are super tough.

That’s a question for the pros actually...

I’d always had crazy hard finger/toe nails my whole life, then out of the blue my nails all just seemed to come really soft at the age of about 40. It probably lasted best part of a year maybe and now they’re back to being rock hard again.

Edited by uncleluck on Thursday 6th February 14:30

anonymous-user

83 months

Thursday 6th February 2020
quotequote all
uncleluck said:
One reason I don’t want to go to a pro is my complete phobia of needles, cannot control & I will be a mess.
I mentioned the podiatrist earlier in the thread - I know your issue isn't quite like this, but I took my son to podiatrist with a painful ingrowing nail, and she was able to do a huge amount of beneficial work to file the offending areas right into parts of the nail you wouldn't think were accessible to solve the issue, without the need for an injection. She also used a spray which numbed the area a little IIRC.

So lots can be done without an injection smile

Mags43

33 posts

148 months

Thursday 6th February 2020
quotequote all
If you do see a private podiatrist/chiropodist, (the job titles are both protected and mean the same thing), try to find one who is registered with the Health and Care Professions Council, they will have the letters HCPC after their name, this means they are properly qualified.
There is also a 'find a podiatrist' function on the College of Podiatry web site.
If this linky thing works it should take you to their page...
https://cop.org.uk/find-a-podiatrist/

I would always see if I can fix the problem without the need for surgery, there is lots that can be done before needles are brought out. (I love mending in-growing toe nails!)

RizzoTheRat

28,881 posts

221 months

Thursday 6th February 2020
quotequote all
Cable tie's a crazy idea, go to an agricultural supplier and get an elastrator kit*.





* Don't do this

Piersman2

6,676 posts

228 months

Thursday 6th February 2020
quotequote all
Tourniquet? smile

Just man up and get stuck in.

I suffered from the same afflication on boths big toes about 10 years ago and used to regularly soak them in boiling hot water and dettol to kill off the infections from where the side of the nail was slicing into the skin.

Anyways, after putting up with this for a few years I cracked and decided to 'operate'! smile

I got myself a stanley knife blade and scribed a straight line from the top of the toe nail down to the base , effectively marking off a triangle at the side.

Then scribed a bit deeper, and a bit deeper until I was most of the way through the nail to the soft tissue underneath.

Then grabbed the triangle bit with a pair of pliers and pulled it off and out from the base.

Hurt a bit, but not for long. smile

Quick soak in dettol, allow it to dry out , wrap a plaster round it for a day or so.

Repeat on other toe.

Sorted! smile