Can someone please explain to me
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Why this f
king corona thing is as high profile as it is.
Its killed way less than the flu does every single fking year, its only killed people with health complications, yes its spread globally but 95% if not more of people are recovering in most countries.
Funny how the number recovered doesent get deleted off the number of cases splashed over the news every day. This is going to fk up the worlds economy all for a different strain of flu.
Why have the media gone to the lengths they have this time in scaremongering people? Its absolutely crazy.
Yes it might be more contagious than normal flu and we dont have a vaccine but the numbers are so minute its unbelievable.
I dread to think how this generation would cope with a war, give me bloody strength.
king corona thing is as high profile as it is.Its killed way less than the flu does every single f
king year, its only killed people with health complications, yes its spread globally but 95% if not more of people are recovering in most countries.Funny how the number recovered doesent get deleted off the number of cases splashed over the news every day. This is going to f
k up the worlds economy all for a different strain of flu. Why have the media gone to the lengths they have this time in scaremongering people? Its absolutely crazy.
Yes it might be more contagious than normal flu and we dont have a vaccine but the numbers are so minute its unbelievable.
I dread to think how this generation would cope with a war, give me bloody strength.
The virus itself is not lethal to most people.
However, it is very contagious.
If the minority of people who it is lethal towards get it, then the Health Service would be overwhelmed. As in, people turned away and dying.
People being allowed to die is obviously not acceptable in a modern world, so the transmission of the virus has to be controlled so that the vulnerable getting it do not all get it at once.
They are trying to manage the flow of people into hospitals to spread out the infection rate.
This unfortunately means compromising the lives of the many to help the few, but the few are grandparents, people with chronic illnesses, etc.
The first of that category possibly helped in the last big war ironically, so let's not begrudge them a little longer eh?
However, it is very contagious.
If the minority of people who it is lethal towards get it, then the Health Service would be overwhelmed. As in, people turned away and dying.
People being allowed to die is obviously not acceptable in a modern world, so the transmission of the virus has to be controlled so that the vulnerable getting it do not all get it at once.
They are trying to manage the flow of people into hospitals to spread out the infection rate.
This unfortunately means compromising the lives of the many to help the few, but the few are grandparents, people with chronic illnesses, etc.
The first of that category possibly helped in the last big war ironically, so let's not begrudge them a little longer eh?
The polarity of its effects is unprecedented. A healthy person cops it, they cough a bit, maybe get the flu fatigue, and a temperature, a few days later, job jobbed. If someone with a compromised immune system / underlying condition gets it, and it gets to their lungs, from evidence garnered from autopsies thus far, it causes damage that’s never been seen by the experts previously. That’s the biggest issue with it, as far as I can tell.
Petrolsmasher said:
Its killed way less than the flu does every single fking year, its only killed people with health complications, yes its spread globally but 95% if not more of people are recovering in most countries.
By the way, if 95% of the UK population got the virus and recovered but 5% didn't, that means 3 MILLION people dying in this country alone.king year, its only killed people with health complications, yes its spread globally but 95% if not more of people are recovering in most countries.Let's also assume that we do nothing but only a third of the population gets the virus with a 5% fatality rate - that still means 1 million people dying. Statistically, someone you know would die from this virus in this scenario.
Muzzer79 said:
Petrolsmasher said:
Its killed way less than the flu does every single fking year, its only killed people with health complications, yes its spread globally but 95% if not more of people are recovering in most countries.
By the way, if 95% of the UK population got the virus and recovered but 5% didn't, that means 3 MILLION people dying in this country alone.king year, its only killed people with health complications, yes its spread globally but 95% if not more of people are recovering in most countries.Let's also assume that we do nothing but only a third of the population gets the virus with a 5% fatality rate - that still means 1 million people dying. Statistically, someone you know would die from this virus in this scenario.
3000 people have died in Italy this month alone.
Had they not taken the measures they have many more would be dead as their hospitals are full.
if you go into ITU you have about a 50% chance of getting better.
They have more people in ITU currently than we have available beds. We are already at capacity in London.
So unless we stop the spread shedloads of people will die, in short order. Our medics will get ill and exacerbate the situation.
It really isn't difficult to understand if you want to.
Had they not taken the measures they have many more would be dead as their hospitals are full.
if you go into ITU you have about a 50% chance of getting better.
They have more people in ITU currently than we have available beds. We are already at capacity in London.
So unless we stop the spread shedloads of people will die, in short order. Our medics will get ill and exacerbate the situation.
It really isn't difficult to understand if you want to.
Petrolsmasher said:
But my point is there is no way that many people will get in anyway thats such a ridiculous prediction. Especially if people have to stay home with a cough, theres no need to shut the whole world down for the others who are showing no symptoms.
You can spread the virus even if you have no symptoms. HTH.Can we see what model your view that there is "no way that many people will get in" is based on please?
Read this:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/gdpr-consent/?next_...
see if you feel the same way; perhaps think about it, imagining that you had parents aged 74 and 79.
But I do agree that in the standard fashion these days. there is a little bit too much news reporting, but you don't have to watch it all
https://www.washingtonpost.com/gdpr-consent/?next_...
see if you feel the same way; perhaps think about it, imagining that you had parents aged 74 and 79.
But I do agree that in the standard fashion these days. there is a little bit too much news reporting, but you don't have to watch it all
Edited by The_Doc on Thursday 19th March 17:13
Muzzer79 said:
By the way, if 95% of the UK population got the virus and recovered but 5% didn't, that means 3 MILLION people dying in this country alone.
Let's also assume that we do nothing but only a third of the population gets the virus with a 5% fatality rate - that still means 1 million people dying. Statistically, someone you know would die from this virus in this scenario.
That's a silly number. WHO estimate was 3.4% of those who were tested, but those were only people with severe symptoms, about 5% - 119,000 from 70 million. It's a lot, but it's not orders of magnitude worse than the flu.Let's also assume that we do nothing but only a third of the population gets the virus with a 5% fatality rate - that still means 1 million people dying. Statistically, someone you know would die from this virus in this scenario.
Petrolsmasher said:
Why this fking corona thing is as high profile as it is.
Its killed way less than the flu does every single fking year, its only killed people with health complications, yes its spread globally but 95% if not more of people are recovering in most countries.
Funny how the number recovered doesent get deleted off the number of cases splashed over the news every day. This is going to fk up the worlds economy all for a different strain of flu.
Why have the media gone to the lengths they have this time in scaremongering people? Its absolutely crazy.
Yes it might be more contagious than normal flu and we dont have a vaccine but the numbers are so minute its unbelievable.
I dread to think how this generation would cope with a war, give me bloody strength.
Just thought I'd better quote this post. 9000 deaths and increasing by the day. Billions of pounds of business being lost all over the world. Don't panic everyone, PetrolSmasher says it is just media hype!king corona thing is as high profile as it is.Its killed way less than the flu does every single f
king year, its only killed people with health complications, yes its spread globally but 95% if not more of people are recovering in most countries.Funny how the number recovered doesent get deleted off the number of cases splashed over the news every day. This is going to f
k up the worlds economy all for a different strain of flu. Why have the media gone to the lengths they have this time in scaremongering people? Its absolutely crazy.
Yes it might be more contagious than normal flu and we dont have a vaccine but the numbers are so minute its unbelievable.
I dread to think how this generation would cope with a war, give me bloody strength.
grumbledoak said:
Muzzer79 said:
By the way, if 95% of the UK population got the virus and recovered but 5% didn't, that means 3 MILLION people dying in this country alone.
Let's also assume that we do nothing but only a third of the population gets the virus with a 5% fatality rate - that still means 1 million people dying. Statistically, someone you know would die from this virus in this scenario.
That's a silly number. WHO estimate was 3.4% of those who were tested, but those were only people with severe symptoms, about 5% - 119,000 from 70 million. It's a lot, but it's not orders of magnitude worse than the flu.Let's also assume that we do nothing but only a third of the population gets the virus with a 5% fatality rate - that still means 1 million people dying. Statistically, someone you know would die from this virus in this scenario.
Petrolsmasher said:
Muzzer79 said:
Petrolsmasher said:
Its killed way less than the flu does every single fking year, its only killed people with health complications, yes its spread globally but 95% if not more of people are recovering in most countries.
By the way, if 95% of the UK population got the virus and recovered but 5% didn't, that means 3 MILLION people dying in this country alone.king year, its only killed people with health complications, yes its spread globally but 95% if not more of people are recovering in most countries.Let's also assume that we do nothing but only a third of the population gets the virus with a 5% fatality rate - that still means 1 million people dying. Statistically, someone you know would die from this virus in this scenario.
I am no scaremonger. I roll my eyes at people panic buying.
I am not worried that I will die from this virus or that there’ll be meltdown.
But the measures in place are necessary.
breamster said:
Petrolsmasher said:
Why this fking corona thing is as high profile as it is.
Its killed way less than the flu does every single fking year, its only killed people with health complications, yes its spread globally but 95% if not more of people are recovering in most countries.
Funny how the number recovered doesent get deleted off the number of cases splashed over the news every day. This is going to fk up the worlds economy all for a different strain of flu.
Why have the media gone to the lengths they have this time in scaremongering people? Its absolutely crazy.
Yes it might be more contagious than normal flu and we dont have a vaccine but the numbers are so minute its unbelievable.
I dread to think how this generation would cope with a war, give me bloody strength.
Just thought I'd better quote this post. 9000 deaths and increasing by the day. Billions of pounds of business being lost all over the world. Don't panic everyone, PetrolSmasher says it is just media hype!king corona thing is as high profile as it is.Its killed way less than the flu does every single f
king year, its only killed people with health complications, yes its spread globally but 95% if not more of people are recovering in most countries.Funny how the number recovered doesent get deleted off the number of cases splashed over the news every day. This is going to f
k up the worlds economy all for a different strain of flu. Why have the media gone to the lengths they have this time in scaremongering people? Its absolutely crazy.
Yes it might be more contagious than normal flu and we dont have a vaccine but the numbers are so minute its unbelievable.
I dread to think how this generation would cope with a war, give me bloody strength.
9000 deaths, still less than the flu in the same time frame......... Why wasent there this panic about swine flu and what not.
Petrolsmasher said:
breamster said:
Petrolsmasher said:
Why this fking corona thing is as high profile as it is.
Its killed way less than the flu does every single fking year, its only killed people with health complications, yes its spread globally but 95% if not more of people are recovering in most countries.
Funny how the number recovered doesent get deleted off the number of cases splashed over the news every day. This is going to fk up the worlds economy all for a different strain of flu.
Why have the media gone to the lengths they have this time in scaremongering people? Its absolutely crazy.
Yes it might be more contagious than normal flu and we dont have a vaccine but the numbers are so minute its unbelievable.
I dread to think how this generation would cope with a war, give me bloody strength.
Just thought I'd better quote this post. 9000 deaths and increasing by the day. Billions of pounds of business being lost all over the world. Don't panic everyone, PetrolSmasher says it is just media hype!king corona thing is as high profile as it is.Its killed way less than the flu does every single f
king year, its only killed people with health complications, yes its spread globally but 95% if not more of people are recovering in most countries.Funny how the number recovered doesent get deleted off the number of cases splashed over the news every day. This is going to f
k up the worlds economy all for a different strain of flu. Why have the media gone to the lengths they have this time in scaremongering people? Its absolutely crazy.
Yes it might be more contagious than normal flu and we dont have a vaccine but the numbers are so minute its unbelievable.
I dread to think how this generation would cope with a war, give me bloody strength.
9000 deaths, still less than the flu in the same time frame......... Why wasent there this panic about swine flu and what not.
2015/2016 was our most recent bad flu year, uk 28,000 deaths, with people dying in hospital corridors, it did make the news but you've probably forgotten now (I had).
That year was due to H1N1 strain going large before the vaccine was well distributed amongst those that need it, 2017/2018 was no cake walk though with 25,000 deaths.
If this is only half as bad again as that we're in trouble and people will die who need not, but I agree the response has been over done, this £350 billion available now to bail out business would have been better spent on the lessons learnt from 2015 making the NHS more robust.
That year was due to H1N1 strain going large before the vaccine was well distributed amongst those that need it, 2017/2018 was no cake walk though with 25,000 deaths.
If this is only half as bad again as that we're in trouble and people will die who need not, but I agree the response has been over done, this £350 billion available now to bail out business would have been better spent on the lessons learnt from 2015 making the NHS more robust.
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