Why no official document for face mask medical exemption
Why no official document for face mask medical exemption
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Rayan77

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67 posts

100 months

Saturday 26th September 2020
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due to Asperger’s syndrome I find wearing the mask Claustrophobic/distressing and being severely Underweight means I get breathless very easily however I try to wear it is long as possible due to fears Of vigilantes.

I really don’t understand why the government didn’t have some official documents for those exempt. I’m exempt from wearing a seatbelt due to my conditions but that has the proper documentation if challenged. The face mask laws do not.

Is it likely some official documentation will be introduced shortly.

anonymous-user

78 months

Saturday 26th September 2020
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In reality it is the court that would decide.

just print something off the internet.

the tribester

2,843 posts

110 months

Saturday 26th September 2020
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Ask your doctor to pen a letter you can carry with you, sounds like you'll likely have extensive medical records to back it up.

Wiccan of Darkness

1,916 posts

107 months

Saturday 26th September 2020
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There is a scheme in operation from a disability charity, it's the sunflower thingy. I volunteer with an autism charity and they all use the sunflower lanyards; the big supermarkets now all recognise the scheme and it's gaining greater recognition. They also do a carers card too, which has made life a lot easier for some of our users; there were several nasty incidents where a support worker or carer was denied access to a store with their ward and it caused no end of issues.

https://hiddendisabilitiesstore.com/

Get one from here, along with an exemption card.


knk

1,329 posts

295 months

Saturday 26th September 2020
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The reason there is no official medical exemption certificate is that there are not really any medical reasons to exempt anyone. Just wear the mask.
It is a little unpleasant, but you are being asked to do so to protect others so do it and bask in the glow of doing something you find uncomfortable for the benefit of others.

anonymous-user

78 months

Saturday 26th September 2020
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knk said:
The reason there is no official medical exemption certificate is that there are not really any medical reasons to exempt anyone. Just wear the mask.
It is a little unpleasant, but you are being asked to do so to protect others so do it and bask in the glow of doing something you find uncomfortable for the benefit of others.
Well the law actually states the total opposite of your stupid comment.

""people who cannot put on, wear or remove a face covering because of a physical or mental illness or impairment, or disability
where putting on, wearing or removing a face covering will cause you severe distress"

Riley Blue

22,997 posts

250 months

Saturday 26th September 2020
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Wiccan of Darkness said:
There is a scheme in operation from a disability charity, it's the sunflower thingy. I volunteer with an autism charity and they all use the sunflower lanyards; the big supermarkets now all recognise the scheme and it's gaining greater recognition. They also do a carers card too, which has made life a lot easier for some of our users; there were several nasty incidents where a support worker or carer was denied access to a store with their ward and it caused no end of issues.

https://hiddendisabilitiesstore.com/

Get one from here, along with an exemption card.
That is not a charity. It's a subsidiary of Tabbers Ltd, a manufacturer of printed material (including lanyards) based in Harlow: https://tabbers.co.uk

Gareth79

8,771 posts

270 months

Saturday 26th September 2020
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knk said:
The reason there is no official medical exemption certificate is that there are not really any medical reasons to exempt anyone. Just wear the mask.
It is a little unpleasant, but you are being asked to do so to protect others so do it and bask in the glow of doing something you find uncomfortable for the benefit of others.
There's no medical exemption certificate because the government doesn't want thousands of people having to bother their GP at this time.

If people believe they are covered by an exemption they can print off the OFFICIAL exemption badges/cards, or show the picture on their phone, but it's not necessary to do so:

https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/face-co...


knk

1,329 posts

295 months

Saturday 26th September 2020
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The Spruce Goose said:
knk said:
The reason there is no official medical exemption certificate is that there are not really any medical reasons to exempt anyone. Just wear the mask.
It is a little unpleasant, but you are being asked to do so to protect others so do it and bask in the glow of doing something you find uncomfortable for the benefit of others.
Well the law actually states the total opposite of your stupid comment.

""people who cannot put on, wear or remove a face covering because of a physical or mental illness or impairment, or disability
where putting on, wearing or removing a face covering will cause you severe distress"
It says people who cannot wear a mask.
Most can and should, even if it is uncomfortable and they don't like to.
Severe distress is of course subjective, but I think most people who chose to not wear a face covering are not unable to wear one due to severe distress, they choose not to because they don't like to.

knk

1,329 posts

295 months

Saturday 26th September 2020
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Gareth79 said:
knk said:
The reason there is no official medical exemption certificate is that there are not really any medical reasons to exempt anyone. Just wear the mask.
It is a little unpleasant, but you are being asked to do so to protect others so do it and bask in the glow of doing something you find uncomfortable for the benefit of others.
There's no medical exemption certificate because the government doesn't want thousands of people having to bother their GP at this time.

If people believe they are covered by an exemption they can print off the OFFICIAL exemption badges/cards, or show the picture on their phone, but it's not necessary to do so:

https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/face-co...
I am a doctor and I would happily write an exemption certificate for the vanishingly small number of people who have a valid and objective medical reason not to wear a face covering.
You are correct that we would be overwhelmed by the selfish who simply want to justify their not wanting to comply for spurious non-medical reasons.

CAPP0

20,551 posts

227 months

Saturday 26th September 2020
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I actually think it would be helpful if people who cannot wear a mask had some discreet sort of identification, a yellow badge, or lanyard, or something. I had that very thought earlier today.

I had to go into a supermarket today, most people were wearing masks, there were a respectable-looking couple aged late 40s-ish who were not wearing masks, calling across the store to each other, completely ignoring other people's personal spaces, and generally doing what they wanted. Now, they may well both have some invisible condition, and I was aware that could be the case, but their general behaviour more suggested the fk-you approach. A badge (each) would have removed that thought.

knk

1,329 posts

295 months

Saturday 26th September 2020
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"Cannot" is the key.
The wording is sensible and humane.
Those who cannot wear a face covering should not be compelled to. In fact to do so would be impossible. I cannot run a four minute mile. A law that says I must would be foolish and unjust.

But if you can wear a face covering, even if you don't want to and it makes you uncomfortable, you should.

Rayan77

Original Poster:

67 posts

100 months

Saturday 26th September 2020
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Wiccan of Darkness said:
There is a scheme in operation from a disability charity, it's the sunflower thingy. I volunteer with an autism charity and they all use the sunflower lanyards; the big supermarkets now all recognise the scheme and it's gaining greater recognition. They also do a carers card too, which has made life a lot easier for some of our users; there were several nasty incidents where a support worker or carer was denied access to a store with their ward and it caused no end of issues.

https://hiddendisabilitiesstore.com/

Get one from here, along with an exemption card.
Thank you, I will look into it

21TonyK

13,027 posts

233 months

Saturday 26th September 2020
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knk said:
"Cannot" is the key.
The wording is sensible and humane.
Those who cannot wear a face covering should not be compelled to. In fact to do so would be impossible. I cannot run a four minute mile. A law that says I must would be foolish and unjust.

But if you can wear a face covering, even if you don't want to and it makes you uncomfortable, you should.
Please, can you repeat this. I am so sick and tired of the crap spouted here and elsewhere.

I have pulmonary sarcoidosis, recently discharged after multiple embolisms. I still stuck a mask on to go into Aldi and Screwfix.

It's really not that big a deal for 10 minutes.

knk

1,329 posts

295 months

Sunday 27th September 2020
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21TonyK said:
Please, can you repeat this. I am so sick and tired of the crap spouted here and elsewhere.

I have pulmonary sarcoidosis, recently discharged after multiple embolisms. I still stuck a mask on to go into Aldi and Screwfix.

It's really not that big a deal for 10 minutes.
Thank you for going through something you find uncomfortable for other people's benefit. You are a good man and it is a selfless act.