A diet for combat sports help
A diet for combat sports help
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anonymous-user

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83 months

Tuesday 26th October 2021
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SlimJim16v

8,093 posts

172 months

Tuesday 26th October 2021
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Diet can't fix lack of conditioning. You need cardio, rowing or those climbing things.

mcelliott

10,496 posts

210 months

Tuesday 26th October 2021
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If you are gassed after 10 minutes sounds like your CV fitness needs addressing first.

Animal

5,667 posts

297 months

Tuesday 26th October 2021
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- Conditioning
- Adequate rest (can you get 8hrs sleep a night)
- Adequate calories to allow you to recover

BabySharkDooDooDooDooDooDoo

15,078 posts

198 months

Wednesday 27th October 2021
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https://www.maximuscle.com/sports/rugby/Rugby-Play...

This is pretty much the same advice as I had twenty years ago playing rugby. Like combat sports it’s for high impact and physical sport so shouldn’t be too different.

It could be that you need to work on your conditioning a bit too. It’s surprising how quickly fitness can go, but also how different match fitness is to general fitness.

JKING

810 posts

191 months

Wednesday 27th October 2021
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https://www.muscletalk.co.uk/bodybuilding-bulking/

This one right at the bottom of the page gives you a rough meal plan. Adjust to your needs.

beambeam1

1,677 posts

72 months

Wednesday 27th October 2021
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What weight are you?

Is it just randori that ruins you or the whole class in general?

If you are just getting back into it then it may just be a case of building up your conditioning again. It’ll come.

Watt bike sessions if you have access to a gym can be very helpful if you want to replicate the anaerobic flavour of randori/contest judo.

However, if it is mostly randori that leaves you wrecked then have a think about what you are doing during it. Are you holding your breath (very common) without realising it? Maybe you are holding your grips for very long periods without the necessary strength endurance to cope for repeated scraps?

Also, if it is related to 10 minutes of randori then don’t sell yourself short by conceding you are knackered after that. Earlier this month my heart rate was peaking at 191 max during a series of 3-4 minutes long randori practices. Stick at it.

Edited by beambeam1 on Wednesday 27th October 18:25

mcelliott

10,496 posts

210 months

Wednesday 27th October 2021
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anonymous said:
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Lol do you really need someone to point out exactly where you're going wrong.

MC Bodge

29,649 posts

204 months

Wednesday 27th October 2021
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Get fit to do Judo.

Run/cycle, calisthenics/circuit training, pick up heavy things and carry them.

Combine the above.

I'm sure that you know how to improve your fitness and your diet.

Ps. Is there not a club nearer than 12 miles?

beambeam1

1,677 posts

72 months

Wednesday 27th October 2021
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Yeah, my car runs like st if you don't put the right fuel in it too.

Trying to jump from a crap diet to a diet that athletes maintain isn't going to be quickly achievable.

You clearly know what's up with your diet, you're eating absolute rubbish.

Buy some of these and start learning a bit of meal prep for 2-3 days ahead. I find it easier to be good with food if it's in the fridge and as convenient to grab as rubbish like crisps, croissants and biscuits.

I can recommend things like overnight oats and salads but make the salads how you like them. If you're not happy with a bit of iceberg and some bland chicken, you ain't going to stick to it.

I'd start increasing your water intake too and probably make sure you get a bit of carbs in before a 2 hour judo session.

Tom Kerridge has some nice recipes to start you off but if you are working "on the go" then simple changes can be made such as choosing the salads or wraps at McDonalds, avoiding the Tesco meal deals and choosing stuff like this instead. Your problem to tackle at the moment isn't really balancing carbs and proteins, etc but sorting out the quality of the food you are taking in as it will just leave you feeling crap even before you start a judo session.

I feel at this point I should be honest and mention that I am about 150kg at the moment but I've been doing judo for years (although 125kg would be a lot smarter for me).

Saweep

6,703 posts

215 months

Thursday 28th October 2021
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I'm similar mass to you. I'd struggle to train for two hours after eating so few calories an hour before.


MC Bodge

29,649 posts

204 months

Thursday 28th October 2021
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I'd suggest eating some porridge (with nuts and fruit) or similar 1.5-2 hours before judo.

anonymous said:
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Interestingly, it does appear to have done so for a lot of people, but I used it as an opportunity to be more regular in my training and, probably because I wasn't relying solely on a club/classes, it didn't strike me as a reason to suddenly stop training or to start chomping snacks or buying takeaways -having a wife who likes cooking (I don't, but can do the basics) does help too.

As a result, I'm just as fit as I was, leaner and currently slightly lighter (although it has fluctuated by up to 2.5Kg) than at the beginning of the pandemic.



ps. Weigh yourself (and measure your waist?) weekly, that can be interesting.


Edited by MC Bodge on Thursday 28th October 10:10

MC Bodge

29,649 posts

204 months

Thursday 4th November 2021
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anonymous said:
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https://www.bhf.org.uk/informationsupport/heart-ma...

Edited by MC Bodge on Friday 5th November 10:09