Help! My son is ultra nasty to his mother....
Help! My son is ultra nasty to his mother....
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Petrus1983

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10,442 posts

178 months

Tuesday
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Long story short - my son (11) lives with his mother in Texas (I'm in the UK). The language and behaviour he's using towards her is mega unacceptable- what the hell can I do?? There's a few aspects that are our fault, obviously not being together and so far apart, but significantly we're sure his gaming time is affecting things too.

My ex is literally at her wits ends. If it makes any difference - he's a perfect pupil in school.

Critical comments are fine btw. Thanks.

wyson

3,665 posts

120 months

Tuesday
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How often are you or another father figure present day to day in his life?

Stick Legs

7,581 posts

181 months

Tuesday
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Next time you talk to him mention that you have witnessed it, explain that if someone spoke to him like that you'd likely or not knock the corners off them.

Ask how he'd feel if someone spoke to his friends that way.

A lot of the time people are beastly to their parents is because of the 'unconditional love' thing. No consequences emboldens the behaviour. 11 is still young enough that a fatherly word will sink in, and old enough to understand the impact.

Good luck, sounds a miserable bind to be in.

Terminator X

17,946 posts

220 months

Tuesday
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Consequences for his actions? If he carries on and nowt happens to him then my guess is that he will just carry on.

TX.

ATG

22,246 posts

288 months

Tuesday
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You can't intervene with your son, (a) coz you're not there (b) because ultimately this is about where the "power" sits in the relationship between mother and son. Even if you were present, if you had to keep intervening because of his behaviour towards his mother, it's still not conveying the message that SHE won't accept this behaviour and SHE can actually stop it.

From a distance I'd hazard a guess that all you can really do is offer her moral support, talk through exactly how the crap behaviour is triggered and manifested, and suggest any strategies that you can think of that may help her break out of the current cycle. And it may help for her to get a professional involved too who can observe and give her an insight into what is going on in the kid's head that motivates the bad behaviour.

ATG

22,246 posts

288 months

Tuesday
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Stick Legs said:
Next time you talk to him mention that you have witnessed it, explain that if someone spoke to him like that you'd likely or not knock the corners off them.

Ask how he'd feel if someone spoke to his friends that way.

A lot of the time people are beastly to their parents is because of the 'unconditional love' thing. No consequences emboldens the behaviour. 11 is still young enough that a fatherly word will sink in, and old enough to understand the impact.

Good luck, sounds a miserable bind to be in.
Very much the "unconditional love thing", particularly if the kid is perfectly capable of behaving well at school. The "behaving like a tt with Mum" thing can be a way of blowing off steam at home that's been bottled up all day at school, particularly if the kid feels a certain amount of social pressure, or is competitive and under-confident, etc

NH-0

636 posts

112 months

Tuesday
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Perhaps he's doing it to get your attention?

Is it a cry for help?

He's struggling and this is his only outlet. If he didn't do this no one would notice him struggling?

Jonmx

2,805 posts

229 months

Yesterday (15:17)
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Tell him that you're disappointed that his behaviour towards his mother has deteriorated and that until he sorts his act out, the Xbox/PS5 is being removed. Perhaps pass some apocryphal tale about how you went through something similar so you can understand his frustrations, but that he is expressing them in the wrong way. Maybe schedule a bit more Zoom/Facetime with him so you can give him an outlet to vent and maybe get to the bottom of the behaviour if it's something more than hormones and gaming.

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44,901 posts

212 months

Yesterday (15:29)
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wyson said:
How often are you or another father figure present day to day in his life?
This.

Not a lot you can do if you're not there to enforce it.

Maybe counselling?

Chris Peacock

3,260 posts

150 months

Yesterday (15:34)
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What is his mother doing about it? Kids need firm boundaries and consequences.

If it was me the gaming time would be reduced to zero until he showed improved behaviours.

Edited by Chris Peacock on Wednesday 20th August 15:41

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44,901 posts

212 months

Yesterday (15:36)
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You could set up a firewall on the Wi-Fi which limits his time on the Internet?

You'll probably need to ask him to show you how to do this.

wyson

3,665 posts

120 months

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wyson said:
How often are you or another father figure present day to day in his life?
This.

Not a lot you can do if you're not there to enforce it.

Maybe counselling?
It’s partly about enforcement, and partly about how secure the kid feels. Kids need a father figure about to feel fully secure, otherwise they will have to deal with difficult emotions. Not many adults are skilled with dealing with these, let alone a 11 year old. Could well imagine blame and lashing out could be a factor behind his behaviour.

InitialDave

13,457 posts

135 months

Is he being exposed to the various tentacles of the grubbier end of online culture that targets adolescent males? The Andrew Tates et al of the world?

ThingsBehindTheSun

2,191 posts

47 months

It will only get worse as he becomes a teenager. My eldest has just turned 18, and for years has been telling us how grown up she is and she thinks she knows everything.

Except she knows nothing and expects us to either bale her out when it all goes wrong, or expects us to do everything for her. If we don't she will literally start screaming at us and calling us every name under the sun.

Her university application, she ignored all of the emails that were sent to her, and then weeks after the deadline started screaming at us for not doing it as "her friends parents do everything for them"

I fear we are raising a generation of super confident, entitled children who have zero skills to back anything up and are totally useless and expect everyone else to do everything for them.

Wacky Racer

39,885 posts

263 months

Sorry, tough love needed.

Withdraw all internet access, or severely limit it.

If he doesn't like it tough.

Been through all this myself twenty five years ago with one of my three teenage lads.

The other two were fine

Now he is 40, he is a model son.