Electromagnetic Fields Interfering With Sleep
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Is this a thing?
Mrs E thinks I'm a bit of a wuss, but I really feel my sleep can be properly disturbed if we leave stuff on in the house overnight that emits EMF's, like phones, laptops, tablets etc.
We leave the WiFi router on, but thats downstairs in a cupboard. Usually, anything wifi thats upstairs like phones, tablets, Mac, etc has wifi disabled before bed and if everything's in this state - I sleep fine. If one of us forgets, I do drop off but it almost feels there's a light on inside my head and sleep is really disturbed. Mrs E reckons it's all in my head (yeah!) and it could be any one of a number of other things.
But, for me it's real. Anyone else experience similar or am I some kind of nocturnal hypochondriac?
Mrs E thinks I'm a bit of a wuss, but I really feel my sleep can be properly disturbed if we leave stuff on in the house overnight that emits EMF's, like phones, laptops, tablets etc.
We leave the WiFi router on, but thats downstairs in a cupboard. Usually, anything wifi thats upstairs like phones, tablets, Mac, etc has wifi disabled before bed and if everything's in this state - I sleep fine. If one of us forgets, I do drop off but it almost feels there's a light on inside my head and sleep is really disturbed. Mrs E reckons it's all in my head (yeah!) and it could be any one of a number of other things.
But, for me it's real. Anyone else experience similar or am I some kind of nocturnal hypochondriac?
It sounds more psychological than physical, the process of turning things off is probably providing more effect than anything else.
If someone ran a test where you thought it was all off and it maybe wasn't you probably would get the same positive effect on your sleep.
Realistically the energy involved is tiny and not something that would do anything. You're leaving the router on and the neighbours wifi will all be on and the house power too so there's lots of other emf around not bothering you, so logically that isn't the real issue.
If someone ran a test where you thought it was all off and it maybe wasn't you probably would get the same positive effect on your sleep.
Realistically the energy involved is tiny and not something that would do anything. You're leaving the router on and the neighbours wifi will all be on and the house power too so there's lots of other emf around not bothering you, so logically that isn't the real issue.
Because i fit a lot of wireless kit, I come across the odd person who feels they are sensitive to emf. After talking to each of them for a while, including changing the subject to other stuff, I always come away thinking they are suffering from other mental health problems, consiracy theories and enjoying weed are a common thread among many of them. Just a pattern i have noticed over the years.
I still humour them and spend time setting up profiles that disable access points near bedrooms on a timed basis. With one customer her husband asked me to train him how to override those settings, and after a couple of nights of her saying it was so much better with the wifi off, he turned it back on just with hidden ssids so he could still use the internet without her knowing and she still couldnt tell the wifi was back on and still praised the "silence" proving it was all in her head. I felt sorry for the poor guy having to listen to her BS all the time, i was ready to choke her after a couple of days.
I still humour them and spend time setting up profiles that disable access points near bedrooms on a timed basis. With one customer her husband asked me to train him how to override those settings, and after a couple of nights of her saying it was so much better with the wifi off, he turned it back on just with hidden ssids so he could still use the internet without her knowing and she still couldnt tell the wifi was back on and still praised the "silence" proving it was all in her head. I felt sorry for the poor guy having to listen to her BS all the time, i was ready to choke her after a couple of days.
Ashfordian said:
Rotaree said:
You have posted before that you are a 'Mental Health First Aid Trainer'.I think you need to take a long hard look at yourself and your suitability to hold this 'qualification' following your post...
Although I do accept your point and apologise wholeheartedly. The post was meant to be only in fun and I had intended to follow it up with something more constructive then the phone rang with a minor family crisis and I've just come back.
The subject of susceptibility to EMF continues to be debated and experimented on with no clear results; it has become known as 'electromagnetic hypersensitivity'.
As there has been no confirmation of its medical or physical existence there is no suggested treatment. The best solution being what you are already doing, which is to sanitise your sleeping environment. Therefore, whether it is a real or psychosomatic condition, the sanitisation process should remove triggers in either case. In time you might consider reintroducing individual 'transmitting' items to test levels of susceptibility to either progress to eliminating the problem or confirming that it's something you have to live with.
I hope that's more helpful and once again apologies for for any offence caused earlier.
they covered this in better call saul
you could try making a faraday cage around your bed
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/264719276980
it may work, i dont sleep well without some form of white noise in the background
you could try making a faraday cage around your bed
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/264719276980
it may work, i dont sleep well without some form of white noise in the background
Ezra said:
Is this a thing?
Mrs E thinks I'm a bit of a wuss, but I really feel my sleep can be properly disturbed if we leave stuff on in the house overnight that emits EMF's, like phones, laptops, tablets etc.
We leave the WiFi router on, but thats downstairs in a cupboard. Usually, anything wifi thats upstairs like phones, tablets, Mac, etc has wifi disabled before bed and if everything's in this state - I sleep fine. If one of us forgets, I do drop off but it almost feels there's a light on inside my head and sleep is really disturbed. Mrs E reckons it's all in my head (yeah!) and it could be any one of a number of other things.
But, for me it's real. Anyone else experience similar or am I some kind of nocturnal hypochondriac?
I can't see how you would be sensitive to wifi from phones and tablets, yet not affected by mobile phones, radio and TV broadcasts, or even light. Its all electromagnetic radiation, and you're being bombarded by it 24/7.Mrs E thinks I'm a bit of a wuss, but I really feel my sleep can be properly disturbed if we leave stuff on in the house overnight that emits EMF's, like phones, laptops, tablets etc.
We leave the WiFi router on, but thats downstairs in a cupboard. Usually, anything wifi thats upstairs like phones, tablets, Mac, etc has wifi disabled before bed and if everything's in this state - I sleep fine. If one of us forgets, I do drop off but it almost feels there's a light on inside my head and sleep is really disturbed. Mrs E reckons it's all in my head (yeah!) and it could be any one of a number of other things.
But, for me it's real. Anyone else experience similar or am I some kind of nocturnal hypochondriac?
Bear in mind Wifi and the mobile phone networks are in the same part of the spectrum.
I would think turning them off is just a placebo. If you want proof get your wife to turn them off every night, but tell her to randomly leave one on sometime in the next few weeks. If you're genuinely sensitive to it then you'll be able to tell when its on.
Edited by 98elise on Sunday 24th August 12:22
You are going to have to live some distance from anybody or any thing to get away from radio signals. You neighbours may get upset if you force the BBC to stop transmitting.
Best bet for a good nights sleep would be to breakdown in the middle of Snowdonia, not much chance of a radio signal then
Best bet for a good nights sleep would be to breakdown in the middle of Snowdonia, not much chance of a radio signal then
The only thing interfering with your sleep is the perception that EMF is doing it. I reckon you are an up to date version of the person who has to switch everything off before heading to bed. A mild form of OCD if you like. Maybe visit a psychotherapist - they will have a field day make a bit of cash from you talking about your disorder and ultimately you will figure out that it is you and not invisible magnetic fields.
On a serious note though, light pollution is a thing and messes up circadian rhythms.
On a serious note though, light pollution is a thing and messes up circadian rhythms.
An ex-colleague’s wife had this. She was badly affected - they moved house to a rural area and had a room built with no electrical stuff in it.
People did poo-poo it, and a big difficulty was that it’s not an accepted thing in the country he lives in. But he seemed in no doubt it was genuine.
She was generally a very fit person - did ultra marathons etc.
People did poo-poo it, and a big difficulty was that it’s not an accepted thing in the country he lives in. But he seemed in no doubt it was genuine.
She was generally a very fit person - did ultra marathons etc.
It'd be worth testing this carefully - have your wife - without telling you - flip a coin, and if it's heads, leave WiFi on, if its talks leave it off. Do this for a couple of weeks, recording heads/rails and your estimation if how well you slept.
If there's a strong correlation then it's worth doing something about.
If there's a strong correlation then it's worth doing something about.
It's psychological, but if it gives you a better sleep, do you really care?
I assume the huge power cables under the road / overhead and the smaller versions in your meter cupboard and around the house are exempt. Also at a really small level, everything has an electric charge so your bedding, clothing etc.
I assume the huge power cables under the road / overhead and the smaller versions in your meter cupboard and around the house are exempt. Also at a really small level, everything has an electric charge so your bedding, clothing etc.
Mr E said:
Sporky said:
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If there's a strong correlation then it's worth doing something about.
If there’s a strong correlation I thing you’ve proved a sense no human to date has ever had. If there's a strong correlation then it's worth doing something about.
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