Narcissists
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Derek Withers

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902 posts

208 months

Wednesday 17th December 2025
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My father in this case. Do they live on a slightly different planet? What ever crazy ideas they come up with must be true if you are always right? I pointed out some insane behaviour of his that is undeniable and he said to never speak to him again. Do they just ignore that or does it actually affect them?

I have always found him to be a facade or a 2d person and pretty incomprensible but I am autistic. I think my siblings have exactly the same experience so are they just someone that you can never understand?

cliffords

3,442 posts

45 months

Wednesday 17th December 2025
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How old is your Dad.
It's a common precursor to Dementia. Please don't stop talking to him ,he is your Dad and maybe unwell.

Derek Withers

Original Poster:

902 posts

208 months

Thursday 18th December 2025
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This isn't a new thing, he has always been like this. I haven't spoken to him for years, he is way too demanding and controlling for an autistic person to be around.

On the face of it he is very successful but his behaviour is nuts if you dig a bit deeper. Perhaps its an autistic trait to try and understand things but he is completely baffling.

StevieBee

14,709 posts

277 months

Thursday 18th December 2025
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Derek Withers said:
are they just someone that you can never understand?
Pretty much!

Narcissism isn't a trait or condition that can be cured or treated because a Narcissist doesn't recognise that they are a Narcissist so from their perspective, there's nothing to be cured or treated.

Worth keeping in mind that someone can have Narcissistic tendencies but not actually have Narcissistic Personality Disorder. The former can just be a case of someone with an over-inflated ego, the latter is more physiological rooted in abnormalities in the part of the brain that controls empathy, emotion and social interaction.

You can learn to accept someone who's a Narcissist but this requires a high degree of emotional detachment, avoiding confrontation, limiting what information you share with them and keeping expectations on what you may get from them, low.

I have a friend who ticks every Narcissist box. But he's still a mate whose company I mostly enjoy. This is because I've learned to ignore the worst of it and avoid giving him anything upon which his Narcissism may thrive. I've long given up trying to help him so just roll with it these days.


dirky dirk

3,361 posts

192 months

Thursday 18th December 2025
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My mum was bad with this
I have to really try hard not to be the same

Quattr04.

886 posts

13 months

Thursday 18th December 2025
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There’s a fantastic book called “surrounded by narcissists” that’s well worth a read

I have a covert narcissist step father, a grandiose narcissist sister and an overt narcissist real father.

It’s exhausting

NiceCupOfTea

25,518 posts

273 months

Thursday 18th December 2025
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The problem is that you can't demonstrate their narcissism to them as they simply will not accept it. They just see it differently in your head. I've had a couple in my life and it is startling when you realise. Fortunately I've been in a position where I could avoid them, but that's a really tough situation.