M.E - Does it exist or doesn't it?
Discussion
I don't know much about the subject, I know a girl at school had M.E when I was 14, and everyone was saying she was faking it. She recovered from it a year later and was fine.
However reading all these things in the news, especially the girl that was recently euthanased(sp) by her mother for it, makes me wonder if it does exist or not.
To be clear again, for those rare few who rush to get offended at anything possible, I don't know one way or the other if it is real or not, but I do know personally cases where people are (still) suffering from it, and those that have miraculously recovered when they feel it necessary.
Apparently there are no actual physical symptoms of the illness either, so quite hard to diagnose.
So in this day and age of many fakers making up illnesses to get benefits, is this real and they are giving the real sufferers a bad name, or is it dubious at best?
However reading all these things in the news, especially the girl that was recently euthanased(sp) by her mother for it, makes me wonder if it does exist or not.
To be clear again, for those rare few who rush to get offended at anything possible, I don't know one way or the other if it is real or not, but I do know personally cases where people are (still) suffering from it, and those that have miraculously recovered when they feel it necessary.
Apparently there are no actual physical symptoms of the illness either, so quite hard to diagnose.
So in this day and age of many fakers making up illnesses to get benefits, is this real and they are giving the real sufferers a bad name, or is it dubious at best?
I knew a woman some time back who suffered from it, when she lost her job.
She used to recover when she ran out of money or her benefits were not paying her enough to make a repair to her car, then she would get it again, usually just after her 6 months probation, and the cycle continued.
In this instance, I would strongly disagree that she actually had M.E, in the form that chronic sufferers claim they suffer from it.
She used to recover when she ran out of money or her benefits were not paying her enough to make a repair to her car, then she would get it again, usually just after her 6 months probation, and the cycle continued.
In this instance, I would strongly disagree that she actually had M.E, in the form that chronic sufferers claim they suffer from it.
TheCarpetCleaner said:
Apparently there are no actual physical symptoms of the illness either, so quite hard to diagnose.
There most certainly are a myriad of physical symptoms that the disease causes. Maybe you meant physical changes in the physiology/biochemistry of the body that can be tested for (using current knowledge)?TheCarpetCleaner said:
So in this day and age of many fakers making up illnesses to get benefits, is this real and they are giving the real sufferers a bad name, or is it dubious at best?
It is without a doubt real, but yes, I imagine that many people in this day and age use it as an excuse.davido140 said:
Yoshiwaan said:
I think it's mostly psychological, but that doesn't make it 'not real' per se...
neurological, not psychological.Chronic fatigue syndrome seems like a better moniker.
I was off work for 14 months with suspected ME (it is really difficult to correctly diagnose, no specific tests) and I can vouch for it being real.
Normally I work 55+ hour weeks with another 12 hours commuting so no-one could accuse me of being workshy but I was f
ked, I was sleeping 20 hours a day, couldn't walk more than 1/4 mile or so without having to stop for a sleep, really really unwell.
Its not a lot of fun, and I was lucky getting away with a relatively short stint, some people have it for years.
Normally I work 55+ hour weeks with another 12 hours commuting so no-one could accuse me of being workshy but I was f
ked, I was sleeping 20 hours a day, couldn't walk more than 1/4 mile or so without having to stop for a sleep, really really unwell.Its not a lot of fun, and I was lucky getting away with a relatively short stint, some people have it for years.
markmullen said:
I was off work for 14 months with suspected ME (it is really difficult to correctly diagnose, no specific tests) and I can vouch for it being real.
Normally I work 55+ hour weeks with another 12 hours commuting so no-one could accuse me of being workshy but I was f
ked, I was sleeping 20 hours a day, couldn't walk more than 1/4 mile or so without having to stop for a sleep, really really unwell.
Its not a lot of fun, and I was lucky getting away with a relatively short stint, some people have it for years.
How did you get over it/out of your system? My dad was a sufferer for years. Normally I work 55+ hour weeks with another 12 hours commuting so no-one could accuse me of being workshy but I was f
ked, I was sleeping 20 hours a day, couldn't walk more than 1/4 mile or so without having to stop for a sleep, really really unwell.Its not a lot of fun, and I was lucky getting away with a relatively short stint, some people have it for years.
Luke. said:
How did you get over it/out of your system? My dad was a sufferer for years.
I tried a lot of things, more exercise, healthier food, Bowen Therapy (a type of massage which worked a treat), I did some charity work and gradually built myself up from one day a week to two over time, then occasionally to three days a week.As I was getting better I got a new girlfriend (who I am still with 2 year on) and a job which is about as cool as it gets and things just kept getting better.
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made me laugh, But Suki, why can you not walk many miles to the well...?

