Should GP's be replaced
Discussion
Thought about this today. Not got a clue why, just nothing much on at the moment.
My thinking is that GP's are way over paid for what they actually do. When you think about it there is very little a GP does that Google and and a half decent nurse could not manage. I may be wrong here but from what I can see the function of the GP is to diagnose ailments and then pass you on to the Hospital to have them confirmed and treated. In terms of actually administering medical aid they don't really do anything, hell they don't even so much as take blood or give you an injection as its the Nurse that carries this out.
When you think about it, you walk in, list your symptoms, they take your blood pressure etc and diagnose what they think may be wrong. They then either write you a prescription for some antibiotic or something, or if the symptoms suggest something more serious they pack you off to a specialist that actually knows what he is talking about.
Now it strikes me that a nurse with a computer could do very much the same job. In fact just try it now, there are a load of web based symptom sorters out there that will do this for you.
So, it seems to me that we are spending fortunes to send these guys to medical school for many many years then paying them a small fortune to do what is in fact, a fairly basic job.
Thoughts, and since its not really a medical issue can we just leave it here please Mods.
My thinking is that GP's are way over paid for what they actually do. When you think about it there is very little a GP does that Google and and a half decent nurse could not manage. I may be wrong here but from what I can see the function of the GP is to diagnose ailments and then pass you on to the Hospital to have them confirmed and treated. In terms of actually administering medical aid they don't really do anything, hell they don't even so much as take blood or give you an injection as its the Nurse that carries this out.
When you think about it, you walk in, list your symptoms, they take your blood pressure etc and diagnose what they think may be wrong. They then either write you a prescription for some antibiotic or something, or if the symptoms suggest something more serious they pack you off to a specialist that actually knows what he is talking about.
Now it strikes me that a nurse with a computer could do very much the same job. In fact just try it now, there are a load of web based symptom sorters out there that will do this for you.
So, it seems to me that we are spending fortunes to send these guys to medical school for many many years then paying them a small fortune to do what is in fact, a fairly basic job.
Thoughts, and since its not really a medical issue can we just leave it here please Mods.
chim said:
Thought about this today. Not got a clue why, just nothing much on at the moment. .
you might like to change this- you're brain is getting a little overwrought. Nt saying GPs aren't well paid, but they earn their money by knowing the stuff that will
a) make you better
and
b) not kill you in the process.
you do haev to have a modicum of intelligencve to do the job!
ds wouldn't for me.GPs shouldnt be replaced, but they SHOULD be brought back to good old fashioned being a doctor - not a budgeter/accountant/practise owner/manager etc etc etc.....too much paperwork and budgets and staff worries taking up their time. They need to get the patient in their door, diagnose the issue, prescribe the best medication for that patient (regardless of them having budget/allocation for it) or refer to the specialist when necessary. Forget all the other crap - get the patient well. For the amount of middle management we pay for in the NHS that function should be performed by the burgeoning ranks of non-medically skilled we seem to pay for with very little in tangible return.
inkiboo said:
chim said:
When you think about it there is very little a GP does that Google and and a half decent nurse
could not manage.
I assume you have medical training/knowledge to make that call? No?could not manage.
chim said:
I may be wrong here
Yes, yes you are. The worst thing the NHS did was listen far too much to patients. Patients have no idea, which is why they are not doctors. Now we have a generation of people who think with the power of Google they can question everything.The result? Retards who don't vaccinate their children and others who use homeopathy to treat cancer.
rich1231 said:
inkiboo said:
chim said:
When you think about it there is very little a GP does that Google and and a half decent nurse
could not manage.
I assume you have medical training/knowledge to make that call? No?could not manage.
chim said:
I may be wrong here
Yes, yes you are. The worst thing the NHS did was listen far too much to patients. Patients have no idea, which is why they are not doctors. Now we have a generation of people who think with the power of Google they can question everything.The result? Retards who don't vaccinate their children and others who use homeopathy to treat cancer.
inkiboo said:
chim said:
When you think about it there is very little a GP does that Google and and a half decent nurse
could not manage.
I assume you have medical training/knowledge to make that call? No?could not manage.
chim said:
I may be wrong here
Yes, yes you are. The worst thing the NHS did was listen far too much to patients. Patients have no idea, which is why they are not doctors. Now we have a generation of people who think with the power of Google they can question everything.The result? Retards who don't vaccinate their children and others who use homeopathy to treat cancer.
petrolveins said:
OP I'm not sure you actually appreciate the roles of GPs today, they do far more than you think, and are also paid less than you might think. They also have to sort out a heck of a lotta crap out.
I may not, I have a very good friend that is a GP though and he is thick as plank (side issue, to much medical crap in head in opinion)) and he is the first to admit it. He is on call a lot and takes home in excess of 100k a year. Now given the amount of years they have to set by in med school and training to reach that level I can understand that, my point though is could that front line diagnoses not be done at slightly lower level, thus freeing up these guys to do more serious doctoring at the sharp end.Edited by chim on Thursday 2nd September 16:56
chim said:
petrolveins said:
OP I'm not sure you actually appreciate the roles of GPs today, they do far more than you think, and are also paid less than you might think. They also have to sort out a heck of a lotta crap out.
I may not, I have a very good friend that is a GP though and he is thick as plank (side issue, to much medical crap in head in opinion)) and he is the first to admit it. He is on call a lot and takes home in excess of 100k a year. Now given the amount of years they have to set by in med school and training to reach that level I can understand that, my point though is could that front line diagnoses not be done at slightly lower level, thus freeing up these guys to do more serious doctoring at the sharp end.Edited by chim on Thursday 2nd September 16:56
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