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I don't, but I deal with them on a daily basis.
The marvellous thing about them is that they're completely harmless and self-limiting. The only way to stop them once they're started is to consciously slow your breathing until the symptoms settle.
I have to say though, in complete honesty, any kind of anxiety/depression/mental health issues are simply beyond my comprehension. I can recognise and deal with them, but as far as sympathy goes - well, it's between s
t and syphilis in the dictionary.
The marvellous thing about them is that they're completely harmless and self-limiting. The only way to stop them once they're started is to consciously slow your breathing until the symptoms settle.
I have to say though, in complete honesty, any kind of anxiety/depression/mental health issues are simply beyond my comprehension. I can recognise and deal with them, but as far as sympathy goes - well, it's between s
t and syphilis in the dictionary.parapaul said:
I don't, but I deal with them on a daily basis.
The marvellous thing about them is that they're completely harmless and self-limiting. The only way to stop them once they're started is to consciously slow your breathing until the symptoms settle.
I have to say though, in complete honesty, any kind of anxiety/depression/mental health issues are simply beyond my comprehension. I can recognise and deal with them, but as far as sympathy goes - well, it's between st and syphilis in the dictionary.
Thanks.The marvellous thing about them is that they're completely harmless and self-limiting. The only way to stop them once they're started is to consciously slow your breathing until the symptoms settle.
I have to say though, in complete honesty, any kind of anxiety/depression/mental health issues are simply beyond my comprehension. I can recognise and deal with them, but as far as sympathy goes - well, it's between s
t and syphilis in the dictionary.Very helpful.
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parapaul said:
I don't, but I deal with them on a daily basis.
The marvellous thing about them is that they're completely harmless and self-limiting. The only way to stop them once they're started is to consciously slow your breathing until the symptoms settle.
I have to say though, in complete honesty, any kind of anxiety/depression/mental health issues are simply beyond my comprehension. I can recognise and deal with them, but as far as sympathy goes - well, it's between st and syphilis in the dictionary.
Oh my, one or two interrupted meal breaks there methinks... The marvellous thing about them is that they're completely harmless and self-limiting. The only way to stop them once they're started is to consciously slow your breathing until the symptoms settle.
I have to say though, in complete honesty, any kind of anxiety/depression/mental health issues are simply beyond my comprehension. I can recognise and deal with them, but as far as sympathy goes - well, it's between s
t and syphilis in the dictionary.
parapaul said:
...I have to say though, in complete honesty, any kind of anxiety/depression/mental health issues are simply beyond my comprehension. I can recognise and deal with them, but as far as sympathy goes - well, it's between st and syphilis in the dictionary.
Yeah I know what you mean, I've never had cancer so I don't understand it, must be all made up and gets no sympathy from me.t and syphilis in the dictionary.Cretin
Mobile Chicane said:
parapaul said:
I don't, but I deal with them on a daily basis.
The marvellous thing about them is that they're completely harmless and self-limiting. The only way to stop them once they're started is to consciously slow your breathing until the symptoms settle.
I have to say though, in complete honesty, any kind of anxiety/depression/mental health issues are simply beyond my comprehension. I can recognise and deal with them, but as far as sympathy goes - well, it's between st and syphilis in the dictionary.
Thanks.The marvellous thing about them is that they're completely harmless and self-limiting. The only way to stop them once they're started is to consciously slow your breathing until the symptoms settle.
I have to say though, in complete honesty, any kind of anxiety/depression/mental health issues are simply beyond my comprehension. I can recognise and deal with them, but as far as sympathy goes - well, it's between s
t and syphilis in the dictionary.Very helpful.
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Oh.
Oh dear.
Stress related in my case - combination of dad's death, lovely mother in law's death and best dog in the world's death within 3 months, all while trying to move house and then getting some fairly blunt e-mails from my boss about lack of progress on a project just tripped me over the edge.
2 or 3 things helped - signed off work for a week made a huge difference. The long drive down with the roof off from Glasgow to Plymouth took my mind off things. Good chat with boss upon my return made a world of difference. No stress = no panic.
2 or 3 things helped - signed off work for a week made a huge difference. The long drive down with the roof off from Glasgow to Plymouth took my mind off things. Good chat with boss upon my return made a world of difference. No stress = no panic.
I get them pretty badly. Just coming out the other end of 3 weeks worth of them. Usually i make an effort to do some relaxation/meditation to calm down at least twice a day - morning and night. There are some good ones on youtube and are usually about 10 minutes long or so. Also write stuff down and work out where it is coming from, cut some stuff down in your life and take some time to rest/eat/sleep at proper intervals. Once its written down you can see why its happening and understand it more, that reduces the symptoms and you calm as a result adn it melts the panic/anxiety away even more. Often its lack of control that triggers them, so you not being able to do anything about the last 3 months worth of life issues you have had etc. Hope it improves for you, the main thing to do it to breathe slowly and deliberatley through them when they start - in for a count of 7 out for a count of 11.
Parapaul - we all entitled to an opinion but writing crap like that is ignorant and naive. I dont understand many things but it doesnt mean they dont exist or are any less of a problem to the sufferer.
Parapaul - we all entitled to an opinion but writing crap like that is ignorant and naive. I dont understand many things but it doesnt mean they dont exist or are any less of a problem to the sufferer.
Edited by bluto on Monday 11th October 10:35
I had my first stress-related panic attack when MD of a company managing 20 people, largely responsible for keeping sales going from month to month, putting together a huge tender for the Parcelforce and moving house. It was a bad one in front of six people to whom I was giving a routine product presentation across a table. Cold lips, dry mouth, cold arms, weakness, fast breathing, fast heart beat the lot. I was scared because I didn't have a clue what was happening to me.
I went to the doc who explained the fight or flight reflex. I had a little counselling, learnt relaxation techniques, joined a gym and was prescribed beta blockers.
However they still affected me many times over the next 18 months, they can be very debilitating at the wrong time in business. They were partly influential in me resigning and down-shifting. It's three years now since my last one, even though starting up my new business during a recession has been pretty scary financially!
Oh and Parapaul - you're in the wrong job or maybe you need to request more training in the mental health area in which you seem to be lacking.
I went to the doc who explained the fight or flight reflex. I had a little counselling, learnt relaxation techniques, joined a gym and was prescribed beta blockers.
However they still affected me many times over the next 18 months, they can be very debilitating at the wrong time in business. They were partly influential in me resigning and down-shifting. It's three years now since my last one, even though starting up my new business during a recession has been pretty scary financially!
Oh and Parapaul - you're in the wrong job or maybe you need to request more training in the mental health area in which you seem to be lacking.
Edited by RegMolehusband on Monday 11th October 10:48
Yea I have had them. I took this stuff called rescue remedy at the time. TBH I don't know if that actually did anything or if it was just a comfort thing. With me I would notice my heart rate go up, I'd go pale then One or other end would need to evactaute.
I found that keeping my mind busy was useful. However the situation became self purpetuating for me. I would put myself in a situation where I thought I may wory so I worried that I would worry and got anxious. I could have kicked myself and it wound me up being like that. I think it was the thought of losing control of my functions that was the biggest fear factor as it's just plain embarressing. It was uselful for me to always note toilet locations, places to get fresh air and always carry a bag. Then I wouldn't worry that things would get the better of me as I could cope if they did. Eventually that has paid off and I got over it but it takes a while and you have to do things that scare you until you have.
I guess the alternative quick fix could be beta blockers. I think they are supposed to stop you getting nervous.
I found that keeping my mind busy was useful. However the situation became self purpetuating for me. I would put myself in a situation where I thought I may wory so I worried that I would worry and got anxious. I could have kicked myself and it wound me up being like that. I think it was the thought of losing control of my functions that was the biggest fear factor as it's just plain embarressing. It was uselful for me to always note toilet locations, places to get fresh air and always carry a bag. Then I wouldn't worry that things would get the better of me as I could cope if they did. Eventually that has paid off and I got over it but it takes a while and you have to do things that scare you until you have.
I guess the alternative quick fix could be beta blockers. I think they are supposed to stop you getting nervous.
macp said:
Experienced what I now realise were panic attacks on two occasions & resolved by picking up the phone and speaking to my wife.Not pleasant though and anyone experiencing them has my sympathies.
I know what you mean, wives don't half go on, don't they....I've only had one after a hugely stressfull couple of weeks, it actually occurred in a Little Chef on the A303 and I had to walk out without eating or drinking anything I paid for. Very scary but it was enough to make me say to myself, this is enough, sort your life out sunshine.
Its horrible and as a diabetic it reminds me 100% of a hypo. You have my sympathy, they are horrid.
TedMaul said:
macp said:
Experienced what I now realise were panic attacks on two occasions & resolved by picking up the phone and speaking to my wife.Not pleasant though and anyone experiencing them has my sympathies.
I know what you mean, wives don't half go on, don't they....
I had them for about 18 months, a decade or so ago. They were completely debilitating, affected my work, and my social life to the point where I became almost agoraphobic for a while. The first time you have one, if you don't know what it is, absolutely scares the st out of you! I thought I was going mad/dying/heart-attack/seizure... not good at all.
I was working for BP at the time, who were wonderful, paid for me to have counselling - which was completely useless for me, but I understand has worked for others.
My GP prescribed propranolol, a beta-blocker, which although effective, felt de-humanising to me. I could no longer feel panic, but I could no longer feel excitement either.
What worked in the end was, I think, a combination of a realisation that they weren't going to kill me; discovering physical techniques (breathing through nose, paper bag etc) that allowed me to control them ie, although I would feel the initial rising panic, it wouldn't get to the stage where I was shaking uncontrollably; and eventually, almost becoming bored of them, as stupid as that sounds. Oh, another panic attach, oh noes! Yawn.
Good luck with yours.
t out of you! I thought I was going mad/dying/heart-attack/seizure... not good at all.I was working for BP at the time, who were wonderful, paid for me to have counselling - which was completely useless for me, but I understand has worked for others.
My GP prescribed propranolol, a beta-blocker, which although effective, felt de-humanising to me. I could no longer feel panic, but I could no longer feel excitement either.
What worked in the end was, I think, a combination of a realisation that they weren't going to kill me; discovering physical techniques (breathing through nose, paper bag etc) that allowed me to control them ie, although I would feel the initial rising panic, it wouldn't get to the stage where I was shaking uncontrollably; and eventually, almost becoming bored of them, as stupid as that sounds. Oh, another panic attach, oh noes! Yawn.
Good luck with yours.
Edited by blindmaninchains on Monday 11th October 13:33
Yes I used to get them ,about 6/7 years ago.Work problems/divorce/health scare.Doesn't matter how strong you think you are,
can happen to anyone.I had counselling and was taught a simple mantra to speak,along with controlled breathing.The therapist told me that
whenever fearing the onset of an attack I was to stop whatever I was doing and say forcefully out loud "STOP...I am in control" and repeat
until the attack ceased.It worked as well.
can happen to anyone.I had counselling and was taught a simple mantra to speak,along with controlled breathing.The therapist told me that
whenever fearing the onset of an attack I was to stop whatever I was doing and say forcefully out loud "STOP...I am in control" and repeat
until the attack ceased.It worked as well.
LMC said:
Oh my, one or two interrupted meal breaks there methinks...
Probably, but no hard feelings about that if there were. madazrx7 said:
Yeah I know what you mean, I've never had cancer so I don't understand it, must be all made up and gets no sympathy from me.
Cretin
That's hardly the same, is it? Cretin
One is a potentially terminal disease, the other tends to affect drunken teenage girls after an argument with that week's boyfriend 
Bing o said:
Mobile Chicane said:
Thanks.
Very helpful.
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Thank god he's not in the medical profession.Very helpful.
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Oh.
Oh dear.
I'm not cynical, honest... And don't get me started on overdoses
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