Any bodybuilders on here? Which supplements?
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Just wondered if there are any bodybuilders/weightlifters on here that would be able to recommend me some good muscle building supplements that have worked for them?
I have tried various creatines/whey etc, while noticing slight gains in strength they have done little more in the way of size and looks.
Any advice much appreciated!
I have tried various creatines/whey etc, while noticing slight gains in strength they have done little more in the way of size and looks.
Any advice much appreciated!
IMO most supplements are EXTREMELY hyped up by the company selling them, making claims that are simply unfounded and untrue. The most important things is diet and training, and if you get both of these spot on you're on to a winner. If you have, and your still not putting on size, supplement aren't going to help.
I use whey as a source of protein, and have felt the benefit from creatine in the past and use it from time to time. I wouldn't use anything else as the sceince behind the benefits is dubious at best, and they aren't usually cheap.
I use whey as a source of protein, and have felt the benefit from creatine in the past and use it from time to time. I wouldn't use anything else as the sceince behind the benefits is dubious at best, and they aren't usually cheap.
If you're going down the natural route, you need to be disiplined.
One of the most important things (after getting into routine of establishing a decent diet) is to find a powder you 'enjoy' drinking (well as much as you can).
From a personal point of view, the Garnell high perfomance whey tastes very good. MYPROTEIN is also not too bad and the bet value for money. Maximuscle products taste good but cost a lot.
You should also be regularly snacking on protein bars, one of the best ones is Peak Pro 50.
Each of these you should supplement with creatine as mentioned by the previous poster.
I've had some (possibly placebo effect) results from using a combination of
Alpha Hydroxy acid
Bodyquick
Chromemate
Sloniacin.
Putting on muscle mass is not easy and takes a lot of effort (and money), but stick at !
One of the most important things (after getting into routine of establishing a decent diet) is to find a powder you 'enjoy' drinking (well as much as you can).
From a personal point of view, the Garnell high perfomance whey tastes very good. MYPROTEIN is also not too bad and the bet value for money. Maximuscle products taste good but cost a lot.
You should also be regularly snacking on protein bars, one of the best ones is Peak Pro 50.
Each of these you should supplement with creatine as mentioned by the previous poster.
I've had some (possibly placebo effect) results from using a combination of
Alpha Hydroxy acid
Bodyquick
Chromemate
Sloniacin.
Putting on muscle mass is not easy and takes a lot of effort (and money), but stick at !
Brother D said:
If you're going down the natural route, you need to be disiplined.
One of the most important things (after getting into routine of establishing a decent diet) is to find a powder you 'enjoy' drinking (well as much as you can).
From a personal point of view, the Garnell high perfomance whey tastes very good. MYPROTEIN is also not too bad and the bet value for money. Maximuscle products taste good but cost a lot.
You should also be regularly snacking on protein bars, one of the best ones is Peak Pro 50.
Each of these you should supplement with creatine as mentioned by the previous poster.
I've had some (possibly placebo effect) results from using a combination of
Alpha Hydroxy acid
Bodyquick
Chromemate
Sloniacin.
Putting on muscle mass is not easy and takes a lot of effort (and money), but stick at !
Also I've never heard of anyone using that combo of chemicals with creatine, whats the science behind that? I'm interested as I've not come across that yet.One of the most important things (after getting into routine of establishing a decent diet) is to find a powder you 'enjoy' drinking (well as much as you can).
From a personal point of view, the Garnell high perfomance whey tastes very good. MYPROTEIN is also not too bad and the bet value for money. Maximuscle products taste good but cost a lot.
You should also be regularly snacking on protein bars, one of the best ones is Peak Pro 50.
Each of these you should supplement with creatine as mentioned by the previous poster.
I've had some (possibly placebo effect) results from using a combination of
Alpha Hydroxy acid
Bodyquick
Chromemate
Sloniacin.
Putting on muscle mass is not easy and takes a lot of effort (and money), but stick at !
My personal opinion is the same as balders, good diet + whey protein + creatine and lift heavy and hard and thats all there is too it!
It's been a while but back when I trained properly I tried almost every natural supplement going, including mass builders, protein powder and creatine, and the solution that worked the best was large amounts of high-protein food with moderate amounts of slow release carbs. It also had the added benefit I didn't s
t like a monster five times a day. The disadvange of course is the time it takes to prepare it all. For years I used to get up at 4am for my 1st meal because otherwise I couldn't fit them into the day. Not something I would do now.
t like a monster five times a day. The disadvange of course is the time it takes to prepare it all. For years I used to get up at 4am for my 1st meal because otherwise I couldn't fit them into the day. Not something I would do now.Ordinary_Chap said:
Also I've never heard of anyone using that combo of chemicals with creatine, whats the science behind that? I'm interested as I've not come across that yet.
My personal opinion is the same as balders, good diet + whey protein + creatine and lift heavy and hard and thats all there is too it!
Basically I've always used protein shakes and creatine, but plateau'd around 90kgs no matter what I ate. So I tried the above, in additon, and they did allow me to train harder and provided the energy that lacks when focus on a low carb/high protein regime. Although NOXplode etc I found to have similar-ish results. My personal opinion is the same as balders, good diet + whey protein + creatine and lift heavy and hard and thats all there is too it!
But as you mentioned, there's no getting away from the fact it requires investment in diet and lifting heavy
I take either N.O.Xplode or Jack3d pre-workout, and there is no denying they give a little extra focus and energy, helping me to work out harder.
I use BSN Syntha-6 protein simply because it's the best tasting, and has less junk in it than other proteins.
I have also just started adding in Casein protein as my pre-bedtime protein, as it is slower release.
BSN Cellmass is a post workout creatine. I feel this has helped me gain some size, your mileage may vary.
I do think there is a slight placebo effect though - taking all these supplements, I am WAY more motivated to go to they gym, as I don't want to 'waste' the effect of them! I also feel more inclined to push myself harder each workout, for the same reason.
I use BSN Syntha-6 protein simply because it's the best tasting, and has less junk in it than other proteins.
I have also just started adding in Casein protein as my pre-bedtime protein, as it is slower release.
BSN Cellmass is a post workout creatine. I feel this has helped me gain some size, your mileage may vary.
I do think there is a slight placebo effect though - taking all these supplements, I am WAY more motivated to go to they gym, as I don't want to 'waste' the effect of them! I also feel more inclined to push myself harder each workout, for the same reason.
didelydoo said:
Wheatabix and Whey for the win. Other than that just eat sensibly, no secrets I'm afraid.
Too me years to figure that out! I spent far too long and far too much money buying these products that supposedly offered an advantage. The only advantage they offer is to the seller who makes the money!Great video on supplements and how they are made;
http://www.brinkzone.com/videos/how-your-supplemen...
Driller said:
The only supplements that work are steroids.
Humm, well yes I guess they could be classed as 'supplements'. But I think the OP was referring more to the natural/legal route. Personally having persued the natural route for many years I find a 50grm protein bar and a few shakes a lot easier to digest and add into my daily routine than a couple of whole chickens and steaks each day on top of a 'normal' diet, and this has lead to a significant mass gain (albeit over many years of diet and training).
Although if the steriod route is how the OP wants to progress there is a vast amount of info out there, but it needs to be approached very sensibly with a proper subsequent pct. They are generally naturally occuring substances in the body after all. Personally I don't advocate the use of steroids for bodybuilding purposes.
Otto said:
I have also just started adding in Casein protein as my pre-bedtime protein, as it is slower release.
Most of us use whey proteins, especially after a workout, but there's a lot of evidence to suggest that casein based ones or mixes are better before sleep or rests as they are "slower release"/longer acting so work better during the rest periods. Cottage cheese for example is a very good pre-bed snack... if you can stomach it (or deal with the zombie dreams!)
Brother D said:
Driller said:
The only supplements that work are steroids.
Humm, well yes I guess they could be classed as 'supplements'. But I think the OP was referring more to the natural/legal route. Personally having persued the natural route for many years I find a 50grm protein bar and a few shakes a lot easier to digest and add into my daily routine than a couple of whole chickens and steaks each day on top of a 'normal' diet, and this has lead to a significant mass gain (albeit over many years of diet and training).
Although if the steriod route is how the OP wants to progress there is a vast amount of info out there, but it needs to be approached very sensibly with a proper subsequent pct. They are generally naturally occuring substances in the body after all. Personally I don't advocate the use of steroids for bodybuilding purposes.
As you say above, protein supplements can take the place of food (although at considerably more expense) but they will not give any extra growth or performance.
Driller said:
Brother D said:
Driller said:
The only supplements that work are steroids.
Humm, well yes I guess they could be classed as 'supplements'. But I think the OP was referring more to the natural/legal route. Personally having persued the natural route for many years I find a 50grm protein bar and a few shakes a lot easier to digest and add into my daily routine than a couple of whole chickens and steaks each day on top of a 'normal' diet, and this has lead to a significant mass gain (albeit over many years of diet and training).
Although if the steriod route is how the OP wants to progress there is a vast amount of info out there, but it needs to be approached very sensibly with a proper subsequent pct. They are generally naturally occuring substances in the body after all. Personally I don't advocate the use of steroids for bodybuilding purposes.
As you say above, protein supplements can take the place of food (although at considerably more expense) but they will not give any extra growth or performance.
Protein powder is very cheap and in my view is probably as cheap as most other protein based foods although I am a believer in food and protein as only a supplement and not replacement.
Driller said:
You appear to think that I'm advocating steroids. I most certainly am not and as a medical professional I would advise anyone not to take them.
As you say above, protein supplements can take the place of food (although at considerably more expense) but they will not give any extra growth or performance.
But we are not talking about the use of protein supplements 'taking the place of food'?As you say above, protein supplements can take the place of food (although at considerably more expense) but they will not give any extra growth or performance.
As a medical professional I would assume you are aware of the casual link between the use of supplementary calorie intake and the effect weight in humans physiology?
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