The Redknapp trial...

The Redknapp trial...

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MadMullah

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5,297 posts

208 months

Tuesday 24th January 2012
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just a question about this trial that the England manager-to-be is involved in...

If found guilty what's the potential sentence? jail or a fine?

If it is jail time, when would he serve it?? before the current season ends?

ascayman

13,103 posts

231 months

Tuesday 24th January 2012
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No chance of him going to jail. A hefty fine, payback whats owed and a suspended sentence.

imo.


MaxAndRuby

6,792 posts

247 months

Tuesday 24th January 2012
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Jail. As soon as he's sentenced. They won't let him finish the season first rolleyes

MaxAndRuby

6,792 posts

247 months

Tuesday 24th January 2012
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ascayman said:
No chance of him going to jail. A hefty fine, payback whats owed and a suspended sentence.

imo.
Sorry mate, but you don't just get a fine for tax evasion like this. It's not an accounting error, he shuffled undeclared UK earnings offshore to his dog's account in Monaco. He's going down.

Remember Lester Piggott?

ascayman

13,103 posts

231 months

Tuesday 24th January 2012
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MaxAndRuby said:
Sorry mate, but you don't just get a fine for tax evasion like this. It's not an accounting error, he shuffled undeclared UK earnings offshore to his dog's account in Monaco. He's going down.

Remember Lester Piggott?
In the main you do actually, it depends if they want to make an example of him or not i suppose but in the main its unlikely you'd go to jail for something like this.

Lester Piggot was an amusing case and a different kettle of fish to this one. He was investigated by the Inland Revenue and after a long wrangle on both sides came to an agreement to declare everything and stump up the unpaid tax plus penalty. He then proceded to write the cheque from an account he still hadn't declared. laugh

They lost thier pacience and stuck him in jail.

johnxjsc1985

15,948 posts

179 months

Tuesday 24th January 2012
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Dosen't seem to be a lot of negative stuff about Harry and his bungs. But he must be concerned as it is tax evasion and the fact he is high profile could mean time behind bars.He could always use the Ken Dodd defense.judge

Gow3r

2,487 posts

170 months

Tuesday 24th January 2012
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We all know high profile football people have been made 'examples of' quite recently, so I can see this being the same, although this one will actually being just and done properly. However I imo I think he will be fined and perhaps given a suspended sentence, though I would find it moderately entertaining for him to be jailed!

hornetrider

63,161 posts

220 months

Tuesday 24th January 2012
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Wouldn't like to be the judge in this case if the jury returns a guilty verdict. All eyes on him!

johnxjsc1985

15,948 posts

179 months

Tuesday 24th January 2012
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ascayman said:
MaxAndRuby said:
Sorry mate, but you don't just get a fine for tax evasion like this. It's not an accounting error, he shuffled undeclared UK earnings offshore to his dog's account in Monaco. He's going down.

Remember Lester Piggott?
In the main you do actually, it depends if they want to make an example of him or not i suppose but in the main its unlikely you'd go to jail for something like this.

Lester Piggot was an amusing case and a different kettle of fish to this one. He was investigated by the Inland Revenue and after a long wrangle on both sides came to an agreement to declare everything and stump up the unpaid tax plus penalty. He then proceded to write the cheque from an account he still hadn't declared. laugh

They lost thier pacience and stuck him in jail.
Good one biggrin look out for the spelling police though.

Dracoro

8,903 posts

260 months

Tuesday 24th January 2012
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johnxjsc1985 said:
Dosen't seem to be a lot of negative stuff about Harry and his bungs. But he must be concerned as it is tax evasion and the fact he is high profile could mean time behind bars.He could always use the Ken Dodd defense.judge
What? That his Dad's dog is dead?

johnxjsc1985

15,948 posts

179 months

Tuesday 24th January 2012
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No that he was an idiot

Corsair7

20,911 posts

262 months

Tuesday 24th January 2012
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Surely the issue is his evasivness in the matter? Denial that he had anything to do with it, that he wouldn't even tell his own accountant etc? This shows a level of deviousness that cant be excused as ignorance, therefore, if found guilty, they throw the book at him....?

johnxjsc1985

15,948 posts

179 months

Tuesday 24th January 2012
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If he is found guilty and goes down will he lose his job.What is it with Spurs managers and dodgyness Mr Veneables had some difficulties as well didn't he?

Nom de ploom

4,890 posts

189 months

Tuesday 24th January 2012
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I think they will probably throw the book at him - they're saying some "bungs" were declared for tax purposes, however this might just be the tip of an iceberg.

i.e. the one of many they found and can build a case around???

if it were the common man in the dock i think a short term at her majesties pleasure would be inevitable...

Are they suggesting mandaric and redknapp were both equally complicit or is it only 'arry facing the nick??

10 Pence Short

32,880 posts

232 months

Tuesday 24th January 2012
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ascayman said:
In the main you do actually, it depends if they want to make an example of him or not i suppose but in the main its unlikely you'd go to jail for something like this.

Lester Piggot was an amusing case and a different kettle of fish to this one. He was investigated by the Inland Revenue and after a long wrangle on both sides came to an agreement to declare everything and stump up the unpaid tax plus penalty. He then proceded to write the cheque from an account he still hadn't declared. laugh

They lost thier pacience and stuck him in jail.
For multiple transactions that were fraudulent from the outset, over £100,000, the starting point is 2 years custody, with a range of 12 months to 3 years depending on aggravation/mitigation.

Lost soul

8,712 posts

197 months

Tuesday 24th January 2012
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MaxAndRuby said:
ascayman said:
No chance of him going to jail. A hefty fine, payback whats owed and a suspended sentence.

imo.
Sorry mate, but you don't just get a fine for tax evasion like this. It's not an accounting error, he shuffled undeclared UK earnings offshore to his dog's account in Monaco. He's going down.

Remember Lester Piggott?
So Arsenal could finish in the top 4 this season biggrin

johnxjsc1985

15,948 posts

179 months

Tuesday 24th January 2012
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I think Arry now understand what Ferguson refers to as "squeeky bum time"

ascayman

13,103 posts

231 months

Tuesday 24th January 2012
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johnxjsc1985 said:
If he is found guilty and goes down will he lose his job.What is it with Spurs managers and dodgyness Mr Veneables had some difficulties as well didn't he?
I don’t see what difference it makes, Spurs were well aware of this prior to him joining and none of this relates to his time at spurs. Obviously if he does porridge then he'll have to be replaced.

P.S beware of those spelling police.
wink

johnxjsc1985

15,948 posts

179 months

Tuesday 24th January 2012
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ascayman said:
johnxjsc1985 said:
If he is found guilty and goes down will he lose his job.What is it with Spurs managers and dodgyness Mr Veneables had some difficulties as well didn't he?
I don’t see what difference it makes, Spurs were well aware of this prior to him joining and none of this relates to his time at spurs. Obviously if he does porridge then he'll have to be replaced.

P.S beware of those spelling police.
wink
What was Venables into was it bungs/tax or was that George Graham.If found guilty is that the end of Harry's England job hopes.
Iv'e already had several fixed penalty fines from the spelling Police they are everywhere you know.

Edited by johnxjsc1985 on Tuesday 24th January 13:14

RedWhiteMonkey

7,871 posts

197 months

Tuesday 24th January 2012
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Hope the judge doesn't call him a wheeler dealer or Harry will probably end up in contempt of court as well.