Why don't they have sin bins in Football matches?
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Like they do in ice hockey games...it would dispense with the yellow card system.
I would still keep the red card, but instead of issuing a yellow one, if the referee deemed an offence had been committed that would normally warrant a yellow one, instead he sent the offending player off into a sin bin for say 20 mins his team would be down to 10 men for this period of time, surely much simpler and less administration for the authorities.
(If committed within the last twenty minutes, he would sent off for the remainder of the game)
Thoughts?
I would still keep the red card, but instead of issuing a yellow one, if the referee deemed an offence had been committed that would normally warrant a yellow one, instead he sent the offending player off into a sin bin for say 20 mins his team would be down to 10 men for this period of time, surely much simpler and less administration for the authorities.
(If committed within the last twenty minutes, he would sent off for the remainder of the game)
Thoughts?
The jiffle king said:
I like the idea, but you could end up with games where it's 11 vs 8 for short periods which would spoil the integrity of the game. Real Madris vs Barcelona could easily be 7 vs 7 ( i jest but you get the point)
This....it works in Rugby but yellow cards are comparatively rare. You could definitely have three mor more players off the pitch at once. What they should do is bring in something like the 10 yard rule in Rugby for backchat from palyers after a free kick is awrded....at the attacking teams option anywhere up to 10 yards forwards as obviously sometimes you wouldn't want the full ten yards.
Cheib said:
The jiffle king said:
I like the idea, but you could end up with games where it's 11 vs 8 for short periods which would spoil the integrity of the game. Real Madris vs Barcelona could easily be 7 vs 7 ( i jest but you get the point)
This....it works in Rugby but yellow cards are comparatively rare. You could definitely have three mor more players off the pitch at once. What they should do is bring in something like the 10 yard rule in Rugby for backchat from palyers after a free kick is awrded....at the attacking teams option anywhere up to 10 yards forwards as obviously sometimes you wouldn't want the full ten yards.
Ever seen a team lose and the manager b
h and moan about how his star cherub was sent off so therefore it was the refs fault?
That wouldnt happen for a yellow card but it would for a stint in the sin bin. Especially as the gobbiness of the average EPL player increases year by year towards the ref. (Andy Caroll V Spurs telling the ref that both he and John Terry are fking black s for example)
I like to think they wouldnt bring it in so as to save all of us hearing about it in the post match blameference. That and the diving would get even worse if that is even possible.
Good idea though.
h and moan about how his star cherub was sent off so therefore it was the refs fault?That wouldnt happen for a yellow card but it would for a stint in the sin bin. Especially as the gobbiness of the average EPL player increases year by year towards the ref. (Andy Caroll V Spurs telling the ref that both he and John Terry are f
king black s for example)I like to think they wouldnt bring it in so as to save all of us hearing about it in the post match blameference. That and the diving would get even worse if that is even possible.
Good idea though.
Sarkmeister said:
Cheib said:
The jiffle king said:
I like the idea, but you could end up with games where it's 11 vs 8 for short periods which would spoil the integrity of the game. Real Madris vs Barcelona could easily be 7 vs 7 ( i jest but you get the point)
This....it works in Rugby but yellow cards are comparatively rare. You could definitely have three mor more players off the pitch at once. What they should do is bring in something like the 10 yard rule in Rugby for backchat from palyers after a free kick is awrded....at the attacking teams option anywhere up to 10 yards forwards as obviously sometimes you wouldn't want the full ten yards.
Have to agree that a sin-bin would be a good idea.
Edited by Russ35 on Tuesday 7th February 14:00
I think for dissent / swearing at refs it would be a good idea. Tell the ref to f**k off and you're binned for 10 mins. Do it again and you're booked and back in.
I can't see it working for fouls and stuff. That should be left alone but I think the attitude towards the ref is disgusting and it's getting worse.
If the FA are serious about heir respect campaign then player attitudes need to be sorted.
Just look at junior football where kids are doing he same because their idols get away with it.
I can't see it working for fouls and stuff. That should be left alone but I think the attitude towards the ref is disgusting and it's getting worse.
If the FA are serious about heir respect campaign then player attitudes need to be sorted.
Just look at junior football where kids are doing he same because their idols get away with it.
I didn't mean for the simple stuff, the other shenanigans that many get up to, get in the refs face and off for five. Go for an oscar and off for five. Pretend you are injured and off for five (bit tricky but the ones that get up suddenly when no one is looking after they went for an oscar)).
Hackney said:
Refs frequently complain about "respect" and abuse by players at all levels.
So send 'em off then.
The rules and powers are there. The refs are too in awe of players to take action.
Im not sure about that. The lower the division the quicker the red card will be flopped out. The EPL is a specticle and there is big bucks involved. The masses want to see passion and love being outraged. The refs would be directed to be greyer than greyest grey man as to not make headlines. So send 'em off then.
The rules and powers are there. The refs are too in awe of players to take action.
I play in probably the worlds lowest league (Div 10 eastern suburbs of Sydney league) and if I swore at a ref he would probably punch me in the face.
Then send me off.
It's supposed to be a yellow for deliberate foul play.
How often do you see a player booked for pulling a shirt or the wrestling match that occurs at every dead ball situation? Neither of those could ever be considered accidental.
If the refs won't apply the existing laws, what's the point of creating new ones?
How often do you see a player booked for pulling a shirt or the wrestling match that occurs at every dead ball situation? Neither of those could ever be considered accidental.
If the refs won't apply the existing laws, what's the point of creating new ones?
tamore said:
the one thing i'd like to see removed from the game is the 'shepherding' of the ball into touch, and winding the clock down in the corner, both of which are achieved by obstruction.
What I don't understand is why the tackling players don't understand they can leave the pitch (I assume they can) so whilst defender *A* is behind the forward shielding the ball, defender *B*, rather than joining in behind simply doesn't go all the way around the forward/corner flag etc....Anyway, I support sin bins. It works in Hockey, Rugby, Ice hockey etc. It could/should also replace the 2 yellows = red business. Reds can then be left for the serious straight red offences.
Refs can then give another yellow/sin bin more confidently/easily without it necessarily changing the WHOLE game. Quite often you see a yellow then later in the game another offence, where a yellow is warranted but not given because a red is then given (which the ref may think it a bit too harsh).
In hockey, we have 3 cards (green - like footy yellow, yellow-sinbin, red-off) so something will need to be adapted for football. Either the same or another different colour for sin bin (black?).
Also, I also support the 10 yards up for mouthing off at the ref. Once it means the ball is into the penalty area it's an indirect free kick and if again, a penalty. This should stop surrounding of the ref too and players will be more inclined to shut their moaning player up as it's the whole team that suffers.
Regardless, none of the above will happen as it has to be approved and implemented across the game in all member countries, FIFA/UEFA etc.... They did it in hockey/rugby but requires strong leadership and agreement from all involved and, in football, they're a shambles at the best of times, just use our own FA for example!
Sarkmeister said:
Cheib said:
The jiffle king said:
I like the idea, but you could end up with games where it's 11 vs 8 for short periods which would spoil the integrity of the game. Real Madris vs Barcelona could easily be 7 vs 7 ( i jest but you get the point)
This....it works in Rugby but yellow cards are comparatively rare. You could definitely have three mor more players off the pitch at once. What they should do is bring in something like the 10 yard rule in Rugby for backchat from palyers after a free kick is awrded....at the attacking teams option anywhere up to 10 yards forwards as obviously sometimes you wouldn't want the full ten yards.
You give away a freekick 28 yards out, and you backchat, get the freekick moved to 18 yards, and the opposition cannot get the ball up and down over the wall that quickly.
Fats25 said:
Sarkmeister said:
Cheib said:
The jiffle king said:
I like the idea, but you could end up with games where it's 11 vs 8 for short periods which would spoil the integrity of the game. Real Madris vs Barcelona could easily be 7 vs 7 ( i jest but you get the point)
This....it works in Rugby but yellow cards are comparatively rare. You could definitely have three mor more players off the pitch at once. What they should do is bring in something like the 10 yard rule in Rugby for backchat from palyers after a free kick is awrded....at the attacking teams option anywhere up to 10 yards forwards as obviously sometimes you wouldn't want the full ten yards.
You give away a freekick 28 yards out, and you backchat, get the freekick moved to 18 yards, and the opposition cannot get the ball up and down over the wall that quickly.
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