Financial Fair Play?
Financial Fair Play?
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NailedOn

Original Poster:

3,118 posts

255 months

Sunday 4th November 2012
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Qatar Sports Investments (QSI) has a majority shareholding in Paris St. Germain.

QSI hired Laurent Platini, son of UEFA President Michel Platini as a lawyer.

Michel Platini is leading UEFA's drive for Financial Fair Play (FFP.)

Michel Platini voted for Qatar to host the 2022 World Cup.

Under UEFA regulations, members must declare conflicts of interest and remove themselves from cases where they may have a conflict of interest.
http://uk.uefa.com/uefa/footballfirst/protectingth...

I suggest that M. Platini has a conflict of interest and FFP is no such thing.

Edited by NailedOn on Monday 5th November 21:15

anonymous-user

74 months

Sunday 4th November 2012
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Its been enforced already with 23 teams including Malaga and Atletico Madrid having UEFA sanctioned prize money withheld. http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2012/sep/11/uef...

But you are right, there is a huge conflict of interests with what you have posted.


MadMullah

5,298 posts

213 months

Monday 5th November 2012
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i personally think that especially if your one of the bigger clubs eg city FFP is unenforceable.

there's always a way around it and I'm sure one day the lovely EU will have something to say about it too

NailedOn

Original Poster:

3,118 posts

255 months

Monday 5th November 2012
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MadMullah said:
i personally think that especially if your one of the bigger clubs eg city FFP is unenforceable.

there's always a way around it and I'm sure one day the lovely EU will have something to say about it too
I agree, hence the thread. Arsene Wegner said that City are effectively sponsoring themselves!

digikal

2,202 posts

169 months

Thursday 20th December 2012
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Steameh

3,155 posts

230 months

Thursday 20th December 2012
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digikal said:
It's not as if they are even trying to hide what they are doing which makes every statement that anyone in UEFA or FIFA makes an absolute joke. Worthless organisations, toothless, old and impotent...a bit like their respective leaders.

NailedOn

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3,118 posts

255 months

Friday 21st December 2012
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digikal said:
I'm not laughing but it is a joke. The $150m a year is effectively a bung. Not only is it on the home turf of M. Platini but it is a transaction that his own son is party to.

NailedOn

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255 months

Tuesday 15th January 2013
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A good article in The Indy today.

http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/news-a...

Funding of clubs such as the PSG tie-in may fall foul of the "related party transactions" rule.

As The Indy says, when comparing the EPL with the NFL, the polarisation of money and results over here is not good for the game.

ascayman

13,209 posts

236 months

Tuesday 15th January 2013
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It's all talk talk talk, nothing will be done.

Fittster

20,120 posts

233 months

Tuesday 15th January 2013
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Why should anything be done? As far as I can see Financial Fair Play is simply designed to retain the existing status quo.

ascayman

13,209 posts

236 months

Tuesday 15th January 2013
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Fittster said:
Why should anything be done? As far as I can see Financial Fair Play is simply designed to retain theexisting status quo.
Because it's cheating, financial doping if you will.

NailedOn

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3,118 posts

255 months

Tuesday 15th January 2013
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Here's the James Lawton article from today's Independent that compares the Premier League and NFL.
Worth a read.
It begins to explain why the EPL is becoming less competitive and why foreign investors looking for profit are shunning the EPL. Then goes on to show how the NFL equivalent of FFP is working for them.

http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/news-a...

Fittster

20,120 posts

233 months

Tuesday 15th January 2013
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ascayman said:
Fittster said:
Why should anything be done? As far as I can see Financial Fair Play is simply designed to retain theexisting status quo.
Because it's cheating, financial doping if you will.
But the current 'big teams' gobble up the lions shares of the TV revenue which makes it virtually impossible for a smaller club to compete with them. A large injection of cash from an external source is the only way a club can break into the elite.


ascayman

13,209 posts

236 months

Tuesday 15th January 2013
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Fittster said:
But the current 'big teams' gobble up the lions shares of the TV revenue which makes it virtually impossible for a smaller club to compete with them. A large injection of cash from an external source is the only way a club can break into the elite.
Nope, Tottenham have managed it as have everton, Newcastle did too.

Fittster

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233 months

Wednesday 16th January 2013
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ascayman said:
Fittster said:
But the current 'big teams' gobble up the lions shares of the TV revenue which makes it virtually impossible for a smaller club to compete with them. A large injection of cash from an external source is the only way a club can break into the elite.
Nope, Tottenham have managed it as have everton, Newcastle did too.
No they haven't, none of those clubs are regularly playing champions league football. If you want teams to crack the top 4 they have to be able to by pass the Financial Fair play rules.

ascayman

13,209 posts

236 months

Wednesday 16th January 2013
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Tottenham have finished 4th twice in the last three years and are 4th currently.

What about arsenal, they have managed champions league football consistantly and they can't be accused of financial doping either. It can and has been done.

Edited by ascayman on Wednesday 16th January 09:21

London424

12,945 posts

195 months

Wednesday 16th January 2013
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Fittster said:
ascayman said:
Fittster said:
Why should anything be done? As far as I can see Financial Fair Play is simply designed to retain theexisting status quo.
Because it's cheating, financial doping if you will.
But the current 'big teams' gobble up the lions shares of the TV revenue which makes it virtually impossible for a smaller club to compete with them. A large injection of cash from an external source is the only way a club can break into the elite.
Also, the big teams in the Prem don't get that much difference in terms of TV rights compared to the bottom clubs. IM posted a link in one of the other footie threads. I'll see if I can find it.

Fittster

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233 months

Wednesday 16th January 2013
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ascayman said:
Tottenham have finished 4th twice in the last three years and are 4th currently.

What about arsenal, they have managed champions league football consistantly and they can't be accused of financial doping either. It can and has been done.

Edited by ascayman on Wednesday 16th January 09:21
Since the creation of the Prem only 2 teams without a sugar dady have won it. So unless you want the Prem shared between Man U and Arsenil then the fair play stuff needs to go.