Maureen and Pep - where will they go?

Maureen and Pep - where will they go?

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hornetrider

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63,161 posts

207 months

Wednesday 16th January 2013
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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/competit...

Well, things just got rather interesting. It looks like they are both coming back to the Prem this summer - where will they go, it's intriguing.

Chelsea will no doubt be chasing Pep, but City (having lost the title to Utd) have the Barca backroom staff which hints they will have him - but where does that leave Maureen? I can't see Abramovich going back and Fergie reckons he isn't retiring yet. Although... if he wins a 20th title for Utd it could be a decent swansong....

Thoughts?

Devilstreak

8,088 posts

183 months

Wednesday 16th January 2013
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Pep to City, Maureen to Chelsea. ( I dont know why but I can see him going back there)

obob

4,193 posts

196 months

Wednesday 16th January 2013
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Maureen to QPR and Pep to Bradford City

TwigtheWonderkid

43,638 posts

152 months

Wednesday 16th January 2013
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Why does Fergie have to retire? The board could tell him to go. He's got shot of some of his best players when he's decided they're getting on a bit and someone younger is available to fill the hole. So why would he be upset if that happened to him? He's a pragmatic guy, he must be able to see the sense in that.

If I were Man U I'd be looking to get Mourinho in as his replacement, whether Fergie likes it or not!

BlackST

9,080 posts

167 months

Wednesday 16th January 2013
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TwigtheWonderkid said:
Why does Fergie have to retire? The board could tell him to go. He's got shot of some of his best players when he's decided they're getting on a bit and someone younger is available to fill the hole. So why would he be upset if that happened to him? He's a pragmatic guy, he must be able to see the sense in that.

If I were Man U I'd be looking to get Mourinho in as his replacement, whether Fergie likes it or not!
Fergie still keeps Man Utd at the top of the sport.
I'd love Fergie to retire as Man Utd of the past 15-20 years would not be the same.
I don't know if somebody will come in and be able to perform as manager as he does, grinds out games and gets results.
Mourinho has been great in the past. Won some major things.
He has now lost the dressing room at Real.
Who is to say he wouldn't lose the dressing room at United?

I see Mourinho going back to Chelsea but I don't know where Guardiola will be going.
I think City could play some nice football. They have the funds and are planning to have the facilities too which could attract talent from across the world and I assume as a manager that would appeal to you.

MrMagoo

3,208 posts

164 months

Wednesday 16th January 2013
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TwigtheWonderkid said:
Why does Fergie have to retire? The board could tell him to go. He's got shot of some of his best players when he's decided they're getting on a bit and someone younger is available to fill the hole. So why would he be upset if that happened to him? He's a pragmatic guy, he must be able to see the sense in that.

If I were Man U I'd be looking to get Mourinho in as his replacement, whether Fergie likes it or not!
I would love to see the board try and get rid off Fergie! I would give it two days until each board members head is on a stick in the middle of the pitch. Not a chance in hell Fergie leaving before he's ready.

I can see Jose going back to Chelsea. Pep seems like a manager who's not motivated by money (he's departure from barcelona hints at that) so he'd go to a club which suits him more IMO. A club that will allow him the time needed to mould it into the way he wants.

Arsenal would be an outside shot IMHO.

Edited by MrMagoo on Wednesday 16th January 11:46

TwigtheWonderkid

43,638 posts

152 months

Wednesday 16th January 2013
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MrMagoo said:
TwigtheWonderkid said:
Why does Fergie have to retire? The board could tell him to go. He's got shot of some of his best players when he's decided they're getting on a bit and someone younger is available to fill the hole. So why would he be upset if that happened to him? He's a pragmatic guy, he must be able to see the sense in that.

If I were Man U I'd be looking to get Mourinho in as his replacement, whether Fergie likes it or not!
I would love to see the board try and get rid off Fergie! I would give it two days until each board members head is on a stick in the middle of the pitch. Not a chance in hell Fergie leaving before he's ready.

Edited by MrMagoo on Wednesday 16th January 11:46
If the board took a decision to replace him, then that's that. They run the club. I actually think Fergie would understand. He's not sentimental, he's a realist. If the chance came to replace him with someone younger who the board felt could bring further success, then it's a no brainer. The worst thing for Man U would be if Fergie got ill or keeled over and all the possible replacemetns were in situ somewhere else.

I hope Mourinho doesn't go to Man U, because he's the best manager in the world, and I don't want them to do well.

Soir

2,269 posts

241 months

Wednesday 16th January 2013
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If utd has been mid table last couple of seasons then yes the replacing fergie argument would stand.

Utd lost the title last year on goal difference alone. They are currently leading the pack and are much stronger with the arrival of RVP. Anyone who thinks fergie should be replaced is smoking crack.

Personally I'd like Maureen at united (when fergie is ready) there is a risk he won't be available

TwigtheWonderkid

43,638 posts

152 months

Wednesday 16th January 2013
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Fergie has been great for Man U, but he has been fantastically well rewarded for his efforts. Hence Man U owe him nothing. And he owes Man U nothing.

The board should look at Fergie the way Fergie looks at his senior players. Even if they are still doing a good job, always on the look out for a younger replacement.

Soir

2,269 posts

241 months

Wednesday 16th January 2013
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TwigtheWonderkid said:
Fergie has been great for Man U, but he has been fantastically well rewarded for his efforts. Hence Man U owe him nothing. And he owes Man U nothing.

The board should look at Fergie the way Fergie looks at his senior players. Even if they are still doing a good job, always on the look out for a younger replacement.
Step away from the pipe

London424

12,829 posts

177 months

Wednesday 16th January 2013
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Soir said:
TwigtheWonderkid said:
Fergie has been great for Man U, but he has been fantastically well rewarded for his efforts. Hence Man U owe him nothing. And he owes Man U nothing.

The board should look at Fergie the way Fergie looks at his senior players. Even if they are still doing a good job, always on the look out for a younger replacement.
Step away from the pipe
I don't know why you have an issue with the comment.

Fergie has shown over the years that if you reach a certain age and there are better options he will move you on.

It sounds like that two of the best managers in world football are up for a job in the summer. I think it would be negligent of the Board not to look at those options.

He is 71 at the end of the day.

MrMagoo

3,208 posts

164 months

Wednesday 16th January 2013
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The question is can those two mangers do a better job then Fergie at Man U.
Not a chance.

Why kick him out if he still as the ability to go on for 3,4,5 more years? Doesn't make sense. He's the top manager in world football (IMHO) would be stupid not to use him while he still able to do a job. (As long as that's what he wants)

TwigtheWonderkid

43,638 posts

152 months

Wednesday 16th January 2013
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MrMagoo said:
The question is can those two mangers do a better job then Fergie at Man U.
Not a chance.

Why kick him out if he still as the ability to go on for 3,4,5 more years? Doesn't make sense. He's the top manager in world football (IMHO) would be stupid not to use him while he still able to do a job. (As long as that's what he wants)
I know this for certain. If Fergie hits the snooze button halfway thru next season and Pep & Mourinho are happily employed elsewhere, and you end up having to appoint a lesser manager, the fans will be demanding why the board hadn't anticipated this possibility.

Also, I think both those managers have the potential to emulate and surpass Fergie's achievements, especially in Europe. Of course you can never be sure, that's the risk you take. That's the risk Fergie takes when he moves his senior players on.

obob

4,193 posts

196 months

Wednesday 16th January 2013
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TwigtheWonderkid said:
I know this for certain. If Fergie hits the snooze button halfway thru next season and Pep & Mourinho are happily employed elsewhere, and you end up having to appoint a lesser manager, the fans will be demanding why the board hadn't anticipated this possibility.

Also, I think both those managers have the potential to emulate and surpass Fergie's achievements, especially in Europe. Of course you can never be sure, that's the risk you take. That's the risk Fergie takes when he moves his senior players on.
I still don't see the fascination with Pep, I am pretty sure Steve Bruce could have won the champion's league with that Barca Team. ito Vilanova is doing even better than Pep.

SimonRS

6,792 posts

234 months

Wednesday 16th January 2013
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TwigtheWonderkid said:
I think both those managers have the potential to emulate and surpass Fergie's achievements
No mate.

What Taggart has done will probably never be equalled, or come close to. Pep through in the towel after four years of massive success, Mourinho just like to build his jar of hearts.

You can't compare those two with fire engine face's massive achievement and dominance.

TwigtheWonderkid

43,638 posts

152 months

Wednesday 16th January 2013
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SimonRS said:
You can't compare those two with fire engine face's massive achievement and dominance.
Yup, Champions of Europe twice in 26 yrs. Mourinho and Pep will never get close. rolleyes


Soir

2,269 posts

241 months

Wednesday 16th January 2013
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London424 said:
Soir said:
TwigtheWonderkid said:
Fergie has been great for Man U, but he has been fantastically well rewarded for his efforts. Hence Man U owe him nothing. And he owes Man U nothing.

The board should look at Fergie the way Fergie looks at his senior players. Even if they are still doing a good job, always on the look out for a younger replacement.
Step away from the pipe
I don't know why you have an issue with the comment.

Fergie has shown over the years that if you reach a certain age and there are better options he will move you on.

It sounds like that two of the best managers in world football are up for a job in the summer. I think it would be negligent of the Board not to look at those options.

He is 71 at the end of the day.
One is a footballer. The other is a manager. World of difference

SimonRS

6,792 posts

234 months

Wednesday 16th January 2013
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TwigtheWonderkid said:
SimonRS said:
You can't compare those two with fire engine face's massive achievement and dominance.
Yup, Champions of Europe twice in 26 yrs. Mourinho and Pep will never get close. rolleyes

You're right, he's done nothing other than that.

GTO-3R

7,538 posts

215 months

Wednesday 16th January 2013
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TwigtheWonderkid said:
Yup, Champions of Europe twice in 26 yrs. Mourinho and Pep will never get close. rolleyes

How many times has either of them rebuilt a title winning team time and time again? So I think the rolleyes belongs to you. Champions league isn't the be all and end all!


Personally I can see David Moyes coming to United.

London424

12,829 posts

177 months

Wednesday 16th January 2013
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Soir said:
London424 said:
Soir said:
TwigtheWonderkid said:
Fergie has been great for Man U, but he has been fantastically well rewarded for his efforts. Hence Man U owe him nothing. And he owes Man U nothing.

The board should look at Fergie the way Fergie looks at his senior players. Even if they are still doing a good job, always on the look out for a younger replacement.
Step away from the pipe
I don't know why you have an issue with the comment.

Fergie has shown over the years that if you reach a certain age and there are better options he will move you on.

It sounds like that two of the best managers in world football are up for a job in the summer. I think it would be negligent of the Board not to look at those options.

He is 71 at the end of the day.
One is a footballer. The other is a manager. World of difference
Only to a degree. The player is more of a disposable asset yes, but the Board have to be contingency planning as well.

I'm not saying that they should get rid of him, but what if Fergie wins the league this year and thinks it would be a good time to retire. It might be too late to hire either of these two.