Loads of empty PL home fans seat this weekend
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LotusOmega375D said:
Anyone else noticed it at several fixtures this weekend? Sure the weather is bad, but that would affect away fans most. Currently watching Southampton v Liverpool on Sky and there must be hundreds of empty seats in the home sections. Same for Man C v Spurs, Villa v Palace etc.
Hundreds of empty seats at the Etihad is not unheard of 
I always found historical attendance stats quite interesting to look at, but nowadays - in the Premier League at least - they only tell you the number of tickets sold for the game. Which is why you can have 10,000 empty seats at Old Trafford but a 75,000 attendance.
Takes all the fun out of it.
Takes all the fun out of it.
LotusOmega375D said:
Loads of empty home seats at West Ham v Arsenal. No doubt it will be claimed as another sell out. If you can’t be bothered to turn up for a Saturday teatime match versus Arsenal, you shouldn’t bother renewing your season ticket.
I think plenty turned up, watched their side concede 4 goals in 36 minutes and made for the exits. I was at Villa Park yesterday. Thousands of empty seats. OK the weather was bad, but the vast majority of fans would have bought their tickets well in advance of knowing the forecast. If we can’t fill a 43,000 seat stadium for a 3 o’clock Saturday kickoff, then why do we need to redevelop the North Stand and up capacity to over 50,000? Especially with all the additional transport problems that would create. We should leave it alone.
LotusOmega375D said:
I was at Villa Park yesterday. Thousands of empty seats. OK the weather was bad, but the vast majority of fans would have bought their tickets well in advance of knowing the forecast. If we can’t fill a 43,000 seat stadium for a 3 o’clock Saturday kickoff, then why do we need to redevelop the North Stand and up capacity to over 50,000? Especially with all the additional transport problems that would create. We should leave it alone.
That’s good to know for me, I’m a Villa fan on the season ticket waiting list and had given up trying to get the occasional match ticket. We live a fair distance away, have other regular Saturday commitments, and although I could get Membership for me and my 9yo son I resent paying 80 odd quid for the two of us just to get a bit higher up the queue. To answer the questions, this weekend is peak Christmas party weekend. I was out in London on Friday night, loads of people out, ditto last night. That combined with our recent poor form and Southampton being in the bottom three, at an expensive time of year with a bit of an incoming fixture pile-up means it would always be unlikely to sell out.
PlasticBottleMan said:
I always found historical attendance stats quite interesting to look at, but nowadays - in the Premier League at least - they only tell you the number of tickets sold for the game. Which is why you can have 10,000 empty seats at Old Trafford but a 75,000 attendance.
Takes all the fun out of it.
Used to be part of the Police command team for the matches Takes all the fun out of it.
We'd see the exact number of people in the stadium and for some matches there could be many thousands less in the stadium than announced as the attendence
I think you are right when you mention ticket sales, a season ticket holder not attending would still be counted as a ticket sold and therefore be on the "attendence figures"
I've been there when there's been less than 50k in the stadium and it's been claimed as a sell out
LotusOmega375D said:
It’s very difficult to find any PL attendance figures nowadays. I looked this morning for our match and not found any reference to it on the internet. Attendance figures always used to be reported publicly and announced during the second half of every match, but not now.
It used to be always be noted at the bottom of the match report in the newspaper. Some clubs definitely still announce it during the match because I heard it on the tv during the Newcastle Liverpool match.LotusOmega375D said:
I was at Villa Park yesterday. Thousands of empty seats. OK the weather was bad, but the vast majority of fans would have bought their tickets well in advance of knowing the forecast. If we can’t fill a 43,000 seat stadium for a 3 o’clock Saturday kickoff, then why do we need to redevelop the North Stand and up capacity to over 50,000? Especially with all the additional transport problems that would create. We should leave it alone.
That’s good to know for me, I’m a Villa fan on the season ticket waiting list and had given up trying to get the occasional match ticket. We live a fair distance away, have other regular Saturday commitments, and although I could get Membership for me and my 9yo son I resent paying 80 odd quid for the two of us just to get a bit higher up the queue. To answer the questions, this weekend is peak Christmas party weekend. I was out in London on Friday night, loads of people out, ditto last night. That combined with our recent poor form and Southampton being in the bottom three, at an expensive time of year with a bit of an incoming fixture pile-up means it would always be unlikely to sell out.
Monkeylegend said:
Do the official attendance figures include season ticket holder even if they don't go to the game?
Some clubs report tickets sold, some report actual numbers through the turnstiles. Clubs are required by law to know how many people are attending, but it doesn't necessarily mean that figure is the one officially released to the media.48k said:
Some clubs report tickets sold, some report actual numbers through the turnstiles. Clubs are required by law to know how many people are attending, but it doesn't necessarily mean that figure is the one officially released to the media.
And some report the number of tickets sold plus the number of unsold ones they gave awayShooter McGavin said:
That’s good to know for me, I’m a Villa fan on the season ticket waiting list and had given up trying to get the occasional match ticket. We live a fair distance away, have other regular Saturday commitments, and although I could get Membership for me and my 9yo son I resent paying 80 odd quid for the two of us just to get a bit higher up the queue.
I was in a similar situation to you and have also been on the season ticket waiting list for years, but have given up on that ever happening. Being a non-member very much restricts what matches you can buy tickets for. We are a family of four living nearly 70 miles away from Villa Park. Getting 4 seats in a row for a PL match used to be difficult, unless the away club handed back part of their allocation (eg. Fulham or Bournemouth). So we bit the bullet and became paid-up members for priority access. If you spread the cost over a year and compare it to the total cost of the tickets you might buy during that time, it doesn’t seem so bad. You can also collect Rewards points and get yourselves a freebie or two. We can pretty much pick and choose which games we want to attend now. I think the only match I wanted but failed to get was Bayern Munich, but I put that down to the woeful ticketing website being swamped. Next up for us is Man City.
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