Jesus de Miguel death.
Jesus de Miguel death.
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franki68

Original Poster:

11,698 posts

252 months

Just seen the video , it’s just horrific

CountyLines

6,311 posts

34 months

Jesus de Miguel.

Might've been nice if you'd learnt his name.

That keeper is finished.

ikarl

4,070 posts

230 months

Hopefully players reflect and change how they tackle other players.


the-norseman

15,956 posts

202 months

When I read the news I thought he had a cardiac arrest on the pitch or was involved in a car accident or similar, didn't realise it was an accident on the pitch.

STe_rsv4

1,283 posts

129 months

Absolute tragedy. The way the keeper walked away without even checking to see how the injured player was, was disgusting and in my mind he knows he has done exactly what he meant to do, which was to hurt him. He walked off knowing he was going to be sent off.
Could an involuntary manslaughter charge be brought against him? Certainly meant to hurt the opposition striker with that challenge

Hippea

3,990 posts

100 months

Not the most respectful of thread titles

franki68

Original Poster:

11,698 posts

252 months

CountyLines said:
Jesus de Miguel.

Might've been nice if you'd learnt his name.

That keeper is finished.
Yep that would make a lot of difference .

Bonefish Blues

36,862 posts

254 months

I'm old enough to have seen the Harald Schumacher assault on Battiston live. This is very reminiscent of that, with awful consequences.

croyde

26,489 posts

261 months

How awful and sad frown

mikebradford

3,177 posts

176 months

Disgusting tackle by the keeper.
It felt deliberate and his actions afterwards seem to back that up.

Very avoidable death. RIP

CountyLines

6,311 posts

34 months

franki68 said:
CountyLines said:
Jesus de Miguel.

Might've been nice if you'd learnt his name.

That keeper is finished.
Yep that would make a lot of difference .
Yes it would.

MDUBZ

1,190 posts

131 months

I don t agree with the sentiment here: It s a tragic accident, the keeper looks like he was focussed on the ball and taken it on his chest at the moment of impact, GKs are taught to jump with a high knee, and it is that which causes the injury; it s difficult to see intent from the angles I ve watched; the still image from behind shows him looking away from the centre forward, look at the reactions of the players too, not a single player confronted him. This is nothing like the Schumacher Battiston incident where the German made no attempt to play the ball.

As for his reaction: He walked off as the ref showed him a red card, as soon as he realised the situation was serious he went back to check, it was the opposition that alerted the medical staff, his own team mates were fighting to get the ball to take the free kick. the only thing criminal here is the goalkeepers positioning..

Edited by MDUBZ on Tuesday 3rd November 16:05

Rebew

402 posts

123 months

Difficult to say how this can be treated as anything other than a tragic accident, absolutely awful for all involved but there was no malice on the part of Owono, just extreme focus on the ball rather than the player.

Even if contact with Jesus de Miguel was intentional (which I do not think it was), far harder tackles are made in Rugby or American Football every week without these terrible consequences and there is no reason to think that such a tackle would lead to the death of a player.

An absolute tragedy.

boyse7en

8,217 posts

196 months

Rebew said:
Difficult to say how this can be treated as anything other than a tragic accident, absolutely awful for all involved but there was no malice on the part of Owono, just extreme focus on the ball rather than the player.

Even if contact with Jesus de Miguel was intentional (which I do not think it was), far harder tackles are made in Rugby or American Football every week without these terrible consequences and there is no reason to think that such a tackle would lead to the death of a player.

An absolute tragedy.
There's an interesting discussion to be had as to how injurious play on the sports field should be treated.
If i ran up to someone on the street and jumped so high that i knee'd them in the face I'd get done for assault/GBH, but because this stuff happens on the sports field it is somehow different. The question is where and how do you draw a line between legitimate sporting incident and violent assault? Not just for football, obviously every other sport has the same potential. If Pogacer went wide on an Alpine corner and pushed another rider over the cliff, is it poor sporting behaviour or manslaughter?