Another amazing astronomy story

[Lost_BMW]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-210...


Sorry it's from the Mail again! It's not all bad then..?

[Eric Mc]

Your reputation is sinking fast.

As with the Mars thread, the comments by DM readers exhibit shocking thickness.

[Lost_BMW]

Eric Mc said:

Your reputation is sinking fast.

As with the Mars thread, the comments by DM readers exhibit shocking thickness.

Didn't know I had one.

I don't read any (physical) paper but on-line searches against several science related themes often throw up the DM. It seems to cover scientific research etc. better than many other, even more 'serious' newspapers.

Oh, I haven't looked at any comments, yet...

[Use Psychology]

I think this is a very interesting story and it sounds like impressive science.

I read reports elsewhere but the thought that immediately sprang to mind for me was... why did these stars do this apparently unusual thing?

I am in no way proposing this as an explanation but I think it's an interesting idea:

If you were looking for other intelligent species, and were advanced enough, quite a good way to get attention, albeit limited by the speed of light (presumably you know this is a limit anyway) is to blow up a start in an unusual way.

i wonder

[jmorgan]

Use Psychology said:

why did these stars do this apparently unusual thing?

Gravity......

Is it so unusual?

[don4l]

Eric Mc said:

Your reputation is sinking fast.

As with the Mars thread, the comments by DM readers exhibit shocking thickness.

The reference to the DM is nothing more than an Ad-Hom, which, as you are well aware, is invalid in any scientific discussion.

The Daily Mail did nothing more than make a "Hublesite" article more accessable to the general public. This, IMHO, is actually a good thing.

You can read the (very slightly) more intellectually challenging version here:-
http://hubblesite.org/newscenter/archive/releases/...


It looks like this is very real science. It could give us the means to study past supernovae explosions, which would be very useful.


Don
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[Lost_BMW]

don4l said:

Eric Mc said:

Your reputation is sinking fast.

As with the Mars thread, the comments by DM readers exhibit shocking thickness.

The reference to the DM is nothing more than an Ad-Hom, which, as you are well aware, is invalid in any scientific discussion.

The Daily Mail did nothing more than make a "Hublesite" article more accessable to the general public. This, IMHO, is actually a good thing.

You can read the (very slightly) more intellectually challenging version here:-
http://hubblesite.org/newscenter/archive/releases/...


It looks like this is very real science. It could give us the means to study past supernovae explosions, which would be very useful.


Don
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The story, and many more very like it - almost word for word, with some more detailed etc. - is around on quite a number of websites.

[Use Psychology]

jmorgan said:

Gravity......

Is it so unusual?

if you read the story, yes, the gas clouds had an unusual bilobal shape rather than being spherical as you would expect from a supernovae, so it had been thought that the 'eruption' was caused by a powerful solar wing from another start. the spectral analysis of the light, according to the recent paper, doesn't back up this model because the eruption/explosion was too cool.

[don4l]

Lost_BMW said:

The story, and many more very like it - almost word for word, with some more detailed etc. - is around on quite a number of websites.

True!

The hubble team issued a press release that was designed to catch the attention of the general public. Nothing wrong with that, IMHO.


Making Science available to the public is a good thing.

Don
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[toxicated]

It was discussed on Radio 4 Material World iplayer on Thursday

[Eric Mc]

don4l said:

The reference to the DM is nothing more than an Ad-Hom, which, as you are well aware, is invalid in any scientific discussion.

The Daily Mail did nothing more than make a "Hublesite" article more accessable to the general public. This, IMHO, is actually a good thing.

You can read the (very slightly) more intellectually challenging version here:-
http://hubblesite.org/newscenter/archive/releases/...


It looks like this is very real science. It could give us the means to study past supernovae explosions, which would be very useful.


Don
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I wasn't dismissing the story, which had been featured on Radio 4's science programme, "Material World" on Thursday. I was just referring to the moronic comments in the "Comments" section below the story. I wasn't having a pop at you either - except in a jocular way.
It obviously wasn't a Daily Mail story as such. It would have been based on a press release issued by the scientific organisation that released the research paper.

[jmorgan]

Use Psychology said:

jmorgan said:

Gravity......

Is it so unusual?

if you read the story, yes, the gas clouds had an unusual bilobal shape rather than being spherical as you would expect from a supernovae, so it had been thought that the 'eruption' was caused by a powerful solar wing from another start. the spectral analysis of the light, according to the recent paper, doesn't back up this model because the eruption/explosion was too cool.

I was reading it differently (amateur in all things starry) but my wondering is, is it unusual as the universe sees it or we see it.

[don4l]

Eric Mc said:

I wasn't dismissing the story, which had been featured on Radio 4's science programme, "Material World" on Thursday. I was just referring to the moronic comments in the "Comments" section below the story. I wasn't having a pop at you either - except in a jocular way.
It obviously wasn't a Daily Mail story as such. It would have been based on a press release issued by the scientific organisation that released the research paper.

Sorry, Eric.

I probably misunderstood your "reputation is sinking" comment, which is what I was reacting to.

Don
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[Eric Mc]

A lame attempt at a joke.

[Halb]

Eric Mc said:

A lame attempt at a joke.

Practise!