Ambition or Skill?

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dibbers006

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Wednesday 22nd February 2012
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DieselGriff

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Wednesday 22nd February 2012
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Survival comes first - if you are skillful enough to bring home enough berries in short enough time then you have a chance to hunt the meat.

If you hunt the meat without collecting berries first and you fail then you die.

So to answer your question, I think that it's a balance between the two and the right balance is down to the individual (and I think in the case of human growth the "individual" can mean tribe\society etc)

BarnatosGhost

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255 months

Wednesday 22nd February 2012
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Which guy has more money?

Caruso

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258 months

Wednesday 22nd February 2012
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dibbers006 said:
On a purely scientific level...
Females do not think at a purely scientific level when it comes to choosing a mate.

Eric Mc

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267 months

Wednesday 22nd February 2012
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Caruso said:
females do not think
Fixed.

Simpo Two

85,883 posts

267 months

Wednesday 22nd February 2012
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You're assigning modern niceties in assuming the female has a choice. I think the strongest caveman would just drag the woman of his choice back to his cave and get stuck in.

New POD

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152 months

Wednesday 22nd February 2012
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Caruso said:
Females do not think at a purely scientific level when it comes to choosing a mate.
I believe that early on in our courting, my wife had to make a choice between a dental student and an engineering student.

She listed pros and cons for both of us, with a ranking and a score, and was mortified and disappointed to find that I (the engineering student) had so few pros and so many cons, and so she went with her heart.

The fact that she felt safe to tell me this only a week or so later, is perhaps strange, but maybe she was testing me with my reaction.

My reaction was "Keep in touch with him, we might need a decent dentist" which apparently wasn't right either.

annodomini2

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253 months

Thursday 23rd February 2012
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Combination of the two or we wouldn't have survived,

Ambitious, so we advance, but skilfully, so we don't end up dead in the process!

R300will

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153 months

Thursday 23rd February 2012
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Neither it is more to do with genetics. Women are shallow and basic attraction stems from wether they would father healthy offspring. After the initial attraction being a good hunter gatherer means they will be a good provider and the attraction grows. But initial is all looks i'm afraid lard arsed baldies wink

Jasandjules

70,036 posts

231 months

Friday 24th February 2012
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dibbers006 said:
On a purely scientific level. Do females of our species find Males more attractive (a likely mate for reproduction) if the Male is ambitious in attempting physical feats, or more skilful at achieving lesser feats?
I would have thought that attempting more difficult feats would result in more injuries and thus less mating... Especially a long time ago when we were evolving and didn't have the ability to cope with infections etc..

Simpo Two

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267 months

Friday 24th February 2012
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Jasandjules said:
I would have thought that attempting more difficult feats would result in more injuries and thus less mating... Especially a long time ago when we were evolving and didn't have the ability to cope with infections etc..
I doubt the 'feats' involved lifting big rocks and saying 'Look at my muscles!' More likely they were directly connected to survival, more a calculated risk if you like, to escape from peril or secure food/water. Those that judged it right lived to pass on their genes, those that got it wrong, didn't.

But why this presumption that the woman chooses the man? The biggest strongest smartest man gets his pick, just like the other animals.

housen

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194 months

Friday 24th February 2012
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Eric Mc said:
Caruso said:
females do not think
Fixed.
not when driveing ..cliche i know ...but i cant sit next newly passed mrs when driveing without shouting


sorry went off topic

i bought her the car and she lives in my flat

if i wasnt ambitious i think i would be boring to talk to so that might add to the debate

Edited by housen on Friday 24th February 10:04