Moons

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Odie

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184 months

Friday 2nd March 2012
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Do any other planets (in our solar system perhaps) have moons that create tidal or significant gravitation affects on the planet they orbit?

TheHeretic

73,668 posts

257 months

Friday 2nd March 2012
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Well, all moons will affect the major body it orbits, be it a distant orbit, or a closer orbit. The fact it is in orbit means that both bodies will affect each other. That effect of that on the main body will depend entirely on the structure of that body. Does a gas giant have tidal effects like water on our planet does? I would imagine so.

Interesting to note that, granted on a different scale), one of the ways we can detect exo-planets is by the wiggle that the sun possesses. The planet orbiting the sun will cause the sun to wiggle a tad, meaning we can calculate the size of the body 'leaning' on the sun.

Edited by TheHeretic on Friday 2nd March 10:21

Eric Mc

122,345 posts

267 months

Friday 2nd March 2012
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Odie said:
Do any other planets (in our solar system perhaps) have moons that create tidal or significant gravitation affects on the planet they orbit?
Yes - all of them.

CDP

7,473 posts

256 months

Friday 2nd March 2012
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Not only that but NASA discovered moonquakes which are caused by the gravitational effect of orbiting the earth. Sort of analogous to liquid tides as they minutely distort the lunar surface.

Eric Mc

122,345 posts

267 months

Friday 2nd March 2012
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Look at Io to see what tides can do.

stew-S160

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240 months

Friday 2nd March 2012
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Everything that has it's own gravity will affect everything else gravitationally. Gravity being the weakest force, the effects are small at large distances, but they are still there.

TheHeretic

73,668 posts

257 months

Friday 2nd March 2012
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That was why I was wondering if moons would have an effect on the gaseous atmosphere, albeit weaker. Does the moon pull the atmosphere in the same way it does with water? Does the atmosphere bulge at all depending on the moon? (Genuine question. I don't see why it wouldn't, but you never know!). I would imagine so.What effects do the multiple moons of Jupiter have on the planet itself? Very little, probably, simply down to scale, but a force is a force, regardless.

ShayneJ

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181 months

Friday 2nd March 2012
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stew-S160 said:
Everything that has it's own gravity will affect everything else gravitationally. Gravity being the weakest force, the effects are small at large distances, but they are still there.
Gravity is anything but a weak force its direct effect may be small but it is all pervasive
and its reach immense.
Gravity is one of the most important of all forces.
The universe would be a very different place if it did not exist
in fact if not for gravity there would be no stars, planets or much else
beyond diffuse clouds of gas

TheHeretic

73,668 posts

257 months

Friday 2nd March 2012
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ShayneJ said:
Gravity is anything but a weak force its direct effect may be small but it is all pervasive
and its reach immense.
Gravity is one of the most important of all forces.
The universe would be a very different place if it did not exist
in fact if not for gravity there would be no stars, planets or much else
beyond diffuse clouds of gas
Gravity is known as the 'weak force'. Stand up... Woohoo... You've just overpowered gravity!

Laplace

1,090 posts

184 months

Friday 2nd March 2012
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ShayneJ said:
Gravity is anything but a weak force its direct effect may be small but it is all pervasive
and its reach immense.
Gravity is one of the most important of all forces.
The universe would be a very different place if it did not exist
in fact if not for gravity there would be no stars, planets or much else
beyond diffuse clouds of gas
It being weak doesn't negate your points.

Gravity is weak and the weakest of the four forces.

Eric Mc

122,345 posts

267 months

Friday 2nd March 2012
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TheHeretic said:
That was why I was wondering if moons would have an effect on the gaseous atmosphere, albeit weaker. Does the moon pull the atmosphere in the same way it does with water? Does the atmosphere bulge at all depending on the moon? (Genuine question. I don't see why it wouldn't, but you never know!). I would imagine so.What effects do the multiple moons of Jupiter have on the planet itself? Very little, probably, simply down to scale, but a force is a force, regardless.
It will cause these effects but the tidal bulges caused by an orbiting moon on the atmosphere of one of the gas giants will be relatively small. They'll be there - but very slight.

The planets even exert tidal pulls on the sun.

Io has maintained a molten core because of the interaction of the tidal effect of the planet Jupiter coupled with additional tides caused by the other larger Jovian moons.


TheHeretic

73,668 posts

257 months

Friday 2nd March 2012
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I figured it must, just wasn't sure it would be more, or less than the tides., as the gravity on the air would be the same as for the water, on an individual molecule basis, if you know what I mean.

Einion Yrth

19,575 posts

246 months

Tuesday 6th March 2012
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TheHeretic said:
Gravity is known as the 'weak force'.
If someone were to say 'the weak force' nmy first thought would be weak nuclear, not gravity. (Not that gravity isn't very weak, of course.)

Daniel1

2,931 posts

200 months

Tuesday 6th March 2012
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Interesting possible fact regurgitated from memory:

In the BBC documentary they said that as Io rubs against the magnetic field of Jupiter it causes a constant discharge of 3 million amps, causing storms of the planets surface

Eric Mc

122,345 posts

267 months

Tuesday 6th March 2012
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It behaves a bit like rubbing a gigantic nylon jumper.