Dark energy doesn't exist

[Derek Smith]

According to this week's New Scientist, there is a movement towards DE not existing among scientists.

Whew! That's a relief.

The idea is that the Einsteinium model is not quite correct in that the universe is not 'more or less' equal whichever way you look. There are holes in it, presumably in the same way as there are holes in the various theories of DE.

[stew-S160]

I'm glad the theory is proving to be wrong. Gives more chance for other theories to be tested, rather than flog a dead horse, like String Theory.

[MartG]

It's all held together by the ether

[Derek Smith]

At least now I am not confused by it all. I couldn't even begin to understand the DE theories. Whilst I'm not suggesting I know anything about a subject that is best described with mathematics, I did think that the invention of a name for something we (or rather, they) could not fathom did not move us forward in any way.

[gadgetmac]

Derek Smith said:

According to this week's New Scientist, there is a movement towards DE not existing among scientists.

Whew! That's a relief.

The idea is that the Einsteinium model is not quite correct in that the universe is not 'more or less' equal whichever way you look. There are holes in it, presumably in the same way as there are holes in the various theories of DE.

I haven't read the article in the NS but from what you are saying it sounds like we're just swapping 'Dark' Energy for 'Dark' Holes unless they have some evidence, no?

Dark = Unknown/Speculated.

[johnty1]

stew-S160 said:

I'm glad the theory is proving to be wrong. Gives more chance for other theories to be tested, rather than flog a dead horse, like String Theory.

The theory is not "proving to be wrong"

Not yet, anyway.

[Derek Smith]

gadgetmac said:

I haven't read the article in the NS but from what you are saying it sounds like we're just swapping 'Dark' Energy for 'Dark' Holes unless they have some evidence, no?

Dark = Unknown/Speculated.

I don't think they are replacing it with anything, other than a revision of the expectation of the expansion of the universe. The suggestion is that the accepted universe model is being challenged, and at a rate as never before. Now, if you suggest that what has been the 'truth' for decades is wrong, you are not treated as an idiot.

So there is nothing unknown exerting this force. It is part of the universe we see seems to be the theory.

[4x4Tyke]

Dark Matter and Dark Energy are really placeholders like the cosmological constant.

In the same way we know X is five in the equation 2X = 10, we just cannot explain why they work/have the values they do.