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V41LEY

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3,005 posts

263 months

Sunday 28th July 2024
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Looking at the recent Premier League teams travelling by air this summer to friendlies; their distances have been calculated (according to a BBC report) in CO2(kg). Is this as if you converted the C02 emissions produced to a solid ? Just curious. Tottenham appear to have won the league with 573,000 kg.
That seems an enormous amount of weight just dumped into the atmosphere - or maybe it isn’t in the scale of things.

OldGermanHeaps

5,026 posts

203 months

Sunday 28th July 2024
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The weight already existed as fuel and air, it was just converted into a different set of compounds by a chemical reaction.

Simpo Two

91,847 posts

290 months

Sunday 28th July 2024
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I find it odd they measure a gas by weight and not volume. The pressure is pretty constant.

So anyway, what are they going to do, fine every football team for climate change? Ban football and save the planet!

Kawasicki

14,224 posts

260 months

Sunday 28th July 2024
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Simpo Two said:
I find it odd they measure a gas by weight and not volume. The pressure is pretty constant.

So anyway, what are they going to do, fine every football team for climate change? Ban football and save the planet!
If you believe in the climate crisis then banning professional sports of all kinds would be a start, as would banning all cultural events that lead to large, non-local, gathering of people.

spikeyhead

19,956 posts

222 months

Sunday 28th July 2024
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It's mass, not weight

OldGermanHeaps

5,026 posts

203 months

Sunday 28th July 2024
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Kawasicki said:
If you believe in the climate crisis then banning professional sports of all kinds would be a start, as would banning all cultural events that lead to large, non-local, gathering of people.
Lest start enforcing conditions like that on people who shout loudest on climate issues

Simpo Two

91,847 posts

290 months

Sunday 28th July 2024
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spikeyhead said:
It's mass, not weight
Ah yes this is where my physics falters. If kilograms are a unit of mass, what does weight use?

Super Sonic

12,972 posts

79 months

Sunday 28th July 2024
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Simpo Two said:
I find it odd they measure a gas by weight and not volume. The pressure is pretty constant!
Pressure is not constant.

hongkongdonkey

592 posts

167 months

Sunday 28th July 2024
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Simpo Two said:
Ah yes this is where my physics falters. If kilograms are a unit of mass, what does weight use?
Newtons.

V41LEY

Original Poster:

3,005 posts

263 months

Sunday 28th July 2024
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spikeyhead said:
It's mass, not weight
So if 573,000 CO2kg is a measure of matter not weight - is that a lot of matter (in the atmosphere?) from a few long haul flights …….. and then scale it up across your average daily worldlwide air travel etc etc plus all your other CO2(kg) from other sources including man made and non- man made. How much ‘matter ‘ can the atmosphere take ?
Apologies - I quit physics (school) at the earliest opportunity !

Mr E

22,823 posts

284 months

Sunday 28th July 2024
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Simpo Two said:
Ah yes this is where my physics falters. If kilograms are a unit of mass, what does weight use?
Force.

Super Sonic

12,972 posts

79 months

Sunday 28th July 2024
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V41LEY said:
spikeyhead said:
It's mass, not weight
So if 573,000 CO2kg is a measure of matter not weight - is that a lot of matter (in the atmosphere?) from a few long haul flights …….. and then scale it up across your average daily worldlwide air travel etc etc plus all your other CO2(kg) from other sources including man made and non- man made. How much ‘matter ‘ can the atmosphere take ?
Apologies - I quit physics (school) at the earliest opportunity !
It's 'mass' not 'matter', and as Old German Heaps pointed out, the mass was already there.

Sporky

10,885 posts

89 months

Sunday 28th July 2024
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hongkongdonkey said:
Simpo Two said:
Ah yes this is where my physics falters. If kilograms are a unit of mass, what does weight use?
Newtons.
Or Kilograms-force (though that's not a formal SI unit).

RSTurboPaul

12,887 posts

283 months

Sunday 28th July 2024
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Atmospheric CO2 is measured in gigatons IIRC (and it is only 0.04% of the atmosphere) so 573000 kg is pretty small, relatively speaking.

OldGermanHeaps

5,026 posts

203 months

Sunday 28th July 2024
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Plants love the stuff anyway. Just plant more trees and plants , we'll be just fine.

juliussneezer

368 posts

27 months

Sunday 28th July 2024
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OldGermanHeaps said:
Plants love the stuff anyway. Just plant more trees and plants , we'll be just fine.
Won't really help in the areas turned into deserts by the increased temps. Might help increase the yield in the English shires though.

OldGermanHeaps

5,026 posts

203 months

Sunday 28th July 2024
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Coldest wettest summer I have ever seen, oh no, we will all burn to a crisp.

xeny

5,438 posts

103 months

Monday 29th July 2024
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OldGermanTroll said:
Feed Me!

juliussneezer

368 posts

27 months

Monday 29th July 2024
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OldGermanHeaps said:
Coldest wettest summer I have ever seen, oh no
Oh good. We can ignore the satellite data and go straight to you (and how you're feeling) for our science.

RSTurboPaul

12,887 posts

283 months

Monday 29th July 2024
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xeny said:
OldGermanTroll said:
Feed Me!
That is what the plants say, yes wink