Axle stands on a sloped drive
Axle stands on a sloped drive
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Dodsy

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7,175 posts

251 months

Sunday 21st April 2013
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I need to get under the TVR and sort out some chassis rust , the plan is to put it up on axle stands while I do the work. The complication is that my drive has a gentle slope with the car parked down the slope. I have previously jacked it up on the drive to change wheels with no problems so I think I should be ok with axle stands.

Its not the north face of the eiger, just a gentle slope down from the road to the front of the house.

Anyone done similar care to comment ?

rodgling

299 posts

223 months

Sunday 21st April 2013
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Yes, somehow my poured concrete garage floor has a significant slope (steep enough for dropped things to make their way towards the door), but never had any problems with careful use of axle stands.

jmorgan

36,010 posts

308 months

Sunday 21st April 2013
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Been pondering this myself. Some of them long ramps look a good idea, been thinking if the bib spoiler will take it then set the ramp section in the garage but start the long ramp section on the drive slope. Only problem is the cost and storage.

Failing that some jacked ramps look like a good idea but only on the level of my garage.

I would not trust an axle stand or jack on my drive.


wemorgan

3,583 posts

202 months

Sunday 21st April 2013
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Put a wheel under the sill for added safety.

vrsmxtb

2,003 posts

180 months

Sunday 21st April 2013
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Maybe put a 5th axle stand on the end of the car lowest on the slope, try and triangulate the support there and limit any potential forward movement?

aww999

2,078 posts

285 months

Sunday 21st April 2013
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Put it carefully on the stands, then give the car a good shake about before you take any wheels off. Although you can pull a car off stands if you're using a giant breaker bar on a rusty suspension bolt, I can't see ou'll have any problems with a bit of light grinding/painting. Leaving a wheel under the sill is a good tip if you're at all worried.

williredale

2,866 posts

176 months

Sunday 21st April 2013
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aww999 said:
Put it carefully on the stands, then give the car a good shake about before you take any wheels off. Although you can pull a car off stands if you're using a giant breaker bar on a rusty suspension bolt, I can't see ou'll have any problems with a bit of light grinding/painting. Leaving a wheel under the sill is a good tip if you're at all worried.
Leaving a wheel under the sill is a good tip full stop.

ging84

9,548 posts

170 months

Sunday 21st April 2013
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i'd be very careful with axle stands on any kind of slope, especially if the slope goes across the car rather than with it, last year my car came off 1 of it's jack stands as i was removing the other, the slope was not very steep, i have since opted for using jack ramps unless i need to remove a wheel

MysteryLemon

4,968 posts

215 months

Sunday 21st April 2013
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Will be fine as long as the slope isn't anything major.

Make sure you point one of the angles of the axel stands (presuming they are of triangular shape) down the slope rather than one of the sides. Will just make it that little bit harder to topple down the slope if it was going to.

My mums drive is quite a slope and I used stands on that for years.

davepoth

29,395 posts

223 months

Sunday 21st April 2013
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jmorgan said:
Been pondering this myself. Some of them long ramps look a good idea, been thinking if the bib spoiler will take it then set the ramp section in the garage but start the long ramp section on the drive slope. Only problem is the cost and storage.

Failing that some jacked ramps look like a good idea but only on the level of my garage.

I would not trust an axle stand or jack on my drive.
I use the shorter ramps sometimes. It's a nightmare getting cars up on them so I usually just jack the car up as far as it'll go and then slide them under the wheels. Definitely the most secure of the lifting solutions IMO.

jmorgan

36,010 posts

308 months

Sunday 21st April 2013
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davepoth said:
jmorgan said:
Been pondering this myself. Some of them long ramps look a good idea, been thinking if the bib spoiler will take it then set the ramp section in the garage but start the long ramp section on the drive slope. Only problem is the cost and storage.

Failing that some jacked ramps look like a good idea but only on the level of my garage.

I would not trust an axle stand or jack on my drive.
I use the shorter ramps sometimes. It's a nightmare getting cars up on them so I usually just jack the car up as far as it'll go and then slide them under the wheels. Definitely the most secure of the lifting solutions IMO.
Someone showed me a set of jackable ramps. There are a few versions out there now. Even with them I could jack up and axle stand it on the level. The long ramps I would love to have but I have no where to store them. The short ramps are a mare to get up on unless the ramps are anchored.

Mr2Mike

20,143 posts

279 months

Sunday 21st April 2013
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Unless it really is a very slight slope, I would definately put one set of wheels on ramps and the other end on axle stands (or another set of ramps). I have a pretty steep driveway, and I can only safely use axle stands if I either use ramps at one end or only jack up one end and chock the wheels at the other.

DocArbathnot

28,636 posts

207 months

Monday 22nd April 2013
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I use axle stands on a slope, make sure the wheels are chocked jobs a goodun.

ging84

9,548 posts

170 months

Monday 22nd April 2013
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davepoth said:
I use the shorter ramps sometimes. It's a nightmare getting cars up on them so I usually just jack the car up as far as it'll go and then slide them under the wheels. Definitely the most secure of the lifting solutions IMO.
I have never though of this
i generally piss my pants when driving up the ramps expecting them to shoot out or generally go wrong
do you then drive the car off them when you are done if you have room?

HertsBiker

6,443 posts

295 months

Monday 22nd April 2013
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Call me crazy but you could modify the stand by grinding off a bit, or welding a bit on so that it counters the slope?

V8RX7

28,982 posts

287 months

Monday 22nd April 2013
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ging84 said:
i'd be very careful with axle stands on any kind of slope
^^^ This

I too have had a car fall off axle stands.

I wouldn't use them to do any work under a car it's surprisingly easy to dislodge them.

I use the drive up ramps - raises the car higher and is MUCH SAFER.

Want it really high - jack the other end up and put a second pair of ramps (facing the other way) under the wheels.

PhillipM

6,542 posts

213 months

Monday 22nd April 2013
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Great, so long as you don't need to take the wheels or suspension off...

For what it's worth, I live on a pretty steep hill and have spent many years tinkering with the car on a side-slope on axle stands with no issues, doing it safely is more down to the way you jack the car initially and the axle stand placement than anything.

V8RX7

28,982 posts

287 months

Monday 22nd April 2013
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PhillipM said:
Great, so long as you don't need to take the wheels or suspension off...
Then I put the ramps under the sills / subframes.

If you have to loosen something with a 3ft bar it's amazingly easy to dislodge an axle stand.

Dodsy

Original Poster:

7,175 posts

251 months

Monday 22nd April 2013
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Thanks for the replies, its a gentle slope so I think it will be ok. I'm only going to be rubbing down and painting the chassis so should be ok. Great tips on the direction to point the legs to reduce the risk of it falling off downslope.

J4CKO

45,962 posts

224 months

Monday 22nd April 2013
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I put mine on four stands, then I put the wheels underneath when I take them off and my ramps with a stout piece of wood between them and the floor of the car, I tend to leave the trolley jack under, with some of the pressure released so it isnt resting on it, basically unless you can bench press your car, take lots of precautions, two things scared the crap out of me, one a story on Scoobynet where some guys wife found him dead with a Transit van on top of him, and a car reversing into our Fiat 500 whilst I was under it, an older lady visiting next door and turning round using our drive, she just touched the Fiat a little but enough to move it a couple of inches, she was unrpentant when I challenged her, she said I shoudlnt hide the car behind the hedge, daft old bat !

Oh, and be careful jacking older cars, a chap I know got a Stag as a doner car for his, jacked it up, put it on stands, was preparing to remove the rear suspension and one one side the stand went right through the floor, which caused it to fall off the other stand.

Edited by J4CKO on Monday 22 April 12:29