Knackered battery or something more serious
Knackered battery or something more serious
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Gemmot

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117 posts

102 months

Tuesday 4th July 2017
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Ok so my wifes 2008 1.2 corsa wouldnt start this morning. Central locking dead but as soon as i connected jump leads it fired up no problem. No lights or anything have been left on and the car is driven every day. As far as im aware its on the original battery. Is it likely the cells in the battery have just gone bad as it wouldnt start after work but jumping worked no problem. Car is on 39k miles . Anyone any ideas?
Cheers

Andy 308GTB

2,984 posts

238 months

Tuesday 4th July 2017
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From my experience batteries last between 5 and 8 years and the deterioration in performance is quite sudden. So I would stick a new battery in without hesitation.

NDA

23,493 posts

242 months

Tuesday 4th July 2017
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Yep, almost certainly a new battery required. Also once they're totally flat, they don't generally recover too well - or won't have the cranking amps needed.

Gemmot

Original Poster:

117 posts

102 months

Tuesday 4th July 2017
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Gents, thanks for the quick replies, much appreciated. Any tips on changing the battery or is it just a case of whip out the old and in with the new?

Penelope Stopit

11,209 posts

126 months

Tuesday 4th July 2017
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The battery could be faulty or it could be flat, have the battery tested before doing anything, if the battery is ok, get the charging circuit checked and also check for any current drain that may be flattening the battery

GreenV8S

30,956 posts

301 months

Tuesday 4th July 2017
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Gemmot said:
Gents, thanks for the quick replies, much appreciated. Any tips on changing the battery or is it just a case of whip out the old and in with the new?
Check whether you have a radio, immobiliser or alarm that will need to be reset/recoded after you replace the battery. If you have any doubts, you can use a separate 12v battery to keep the system powered up while you replace the main battery. Professionals would use a device that just plugs into a lighter socket for this, but any way of applying 12V safely would do just as well. If you haven't done this before and are planning to buy from a normal retail outlet, consider choosing one that offers a free fitting service. This is one of those jobs that only takes a couple of minutes to do right with the right equipment and will often be offered as a courtesy - which can save you a lot of hassle if you are not familiar with this job.

Dogwatch

6,331 posts

239 months

Tuesday 4th July 2017
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Apparently a PP9 battery - with the right polarity! - provides enough juice to keep electronic memories happy while the car battery is being changed.As I had a jump start pack I used the 12v cigarette style port on that with a male to male lead to the dash port.

tapkaJohnD

2,000 posts

221 months

Wednesday 5th July 2017
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No argument with the above, but some investigation might put off the day for a new battery.
With the battery fully charged, and the car turned off, how many volts at the battery?
Should be at least 12.6V, any less and yes, it needs another.

BUT, is the alternator charging it? With the engine running, do you get at least 13.6V, measured at the battery? If not, the alternator, or the wiring or the alternator drive belt (!) needs attention.

If these all good, is there a drain on the battery when the car is standing? You need a multimeter for the above, in Volts mode, now set it to Amps. With the car turned off, connect it between the battery terminal (either) and the cable, and disconnect the cable from the battery. Any current to the car is now being measured by your meter. It should read a lot less than one amp, as low demand devices draw charge, the radio, clock or alarms systems. Check by opening a door, to activate the courtesy light, which will draw say, 2A or so. DONT START THE CAR! If the drain current is more than hundredths of an Amp (0.001 to 0.009A) then something is on when it shouldn't be and is draining the battery. Courtesy lights are a common one especially the boot as you don't see it.

Good luck!
John

E-bmw

11,306 posts

169 months

Wednesday 5th July 2017
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tapkaJohnD said:
If the drain current is more than hundredths of an Amp (0.001 to 0.009A)
Agreed, except...... They are 1000ths.

10ths - 0.1 - 0.9
100ths - 0.01 - 0.09
1000ths - 0.001 - 0.009

Gemmot

Original Poster:

117 posts

102 months

Thursday 6th July 2017
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Thanks for all the replies. So since ive posted i jumped the car and since then its been great. No problems at all. Bizarre?!

tapkaJohnD

2,000 posts

221 months

Friday 7th July 2017
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Thank you E-bmw!
0.01-0.09A of course.
Fat fingers JOhn

E-bmw

11,306 posts

169 months

Friday 7th July 2017
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Not a problem.

As I frequently say "if that is the worst mistake you make this week, you are doing ok".

tapkaJohnD

2,000 posts

221 months

Friday 7th July 2017
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Hmmmmmmmmm! Not sure if the coroner would agree.
Esp. if I got it the other way.
John