Scary Brake Pad Failure
Scary Brake Pad Failure
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Hammer67

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6,465 posts

215 months

Saturday 31st March 2018
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Here's a reminder why brakes should be regularly maintained and inspected.

Mate of mine bought a really nice 54 plate C Max 1.6 TDCi last year from a reasonably well respected small local trader.

One owner, 55K miles, now on 62K. He asked me to have a look as his Mrs reported odd noises from the front brakes and a weird feeling on the pedal.

Didn't even need to drive it to see the problem, could see it through the wheel. What was left of the pad lining detached from the backplate and wedged between the pad carrier and the disc.

Pads were Motorcraft and quite possibly, bearing in mind the low mileage, the originals. All of the other pads were seized solid in the carriers and coated in years of crap and brake dust. clearly nothing had been done for years.

First time I've ever come across this happening, thankfully the failed lining didn't drop out and was still half functioning but wouldn't have lasted much longer wedged in there. Scary st.






Blaster72

12,707 posts

228 months

Saturday 31st March 2018
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I agree, it's something many people overlook and trust too much on the previous owners to take care of them.

The discs look in remarkably good condition, I wonder if the disks have been replaced at some point and the original pads re-used?

buggalugs

9,292 posts

268 months

Saturday 31st March 2018
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I reckon the loose pad has taken the lip and edge rust off the discs to make them look good, the thinkness will be low

Sheepshanks

41,318 posts

150 months

Saturday 31st March 2018
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Blaster72 said:
I agree, it's something many people overlook and trust too much on the previous owners to take care of them.
I'm currently in an argument with a Honda dealer and Honda UK as one of their dealers didn't notice one of the inside rear pads was seized and had worn the pad to 95% - apparently they couldn't hear the acoustic pad wear indicator when daughter took the car in and the vehicle health check, which gave the brakes a green, is a visual on-the-ground check only.

The dealer recommended power washing the callipers in future.

Hammer67

Original Poster:

6,465 posts

215 months

Saturday 31st March 2018
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Sheepshanks said:
I'm currently in an argument with a Honda dealer and Honda UK as one of their dealers didn't notice one of the inside rear pads was seized and had worn the pad to 95% - apparently they couldn't hear the acoustic pad wear indicator when daughter took the car in and the vehicle health check, which gave the brakes a green, is a visual on-the-ground check only.

The dealer recommended power washing the callipers in future.
Seriously? no way would I pressure wash brake calipers.

Annual strip, clean, de-rust, de-glaze, lubricate and re-assemble.

And whilst you're in there you get to check all the stuff in the area, wheels, tyres, suspension arms, joints, cv gaitors, track rod ends etc etc.

Blaster72

12,707 posts

228 months

Saturday 31st March 2018
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buggalugs said:
I reckon the loose pad has taken the lip and edge rust off the discs to make them look good, the thinkness will be low
Yep, you could be right there. I really don't put any value on a multi point main dealer pre-sale check for used cars.

dhutch

17,923 posts

228 months

Saturday 31st March 2018
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Housemate had the same on his Mondeo rears recently, all but locked the rear up solid a few minutes after pulling off the drive for work. Drove it back like the hb was on an when in in the bike!

Daniel

jeremyh1

1,525 posts

158 months

Monday 2nd April 2018
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This site should have a thank you button
It would be a nicer place to be
So I will say thank you to hammer for posting this up as I found his photos and account of the brake issue very useful

Condi

20,539 posts

202 months

Monday 2nd April 2018
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Hammer67 said:
Annual strip, clean, de-rust, de-glaze, lubricate and re-assemble.
Does anyone, anywhere, actually do this?!

2 sMoKiN bArReLs

32,039 posts

266 months

Monday 2nd April 2018
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Condi said:
Hammer67 said:
Annual strip, clean, de-rust, de-glaze, lubricate and re-assemble.
Does anyone, anywhere, actually do this?!
Nobody that has friends hehe

Hammer67

Original Poster:

6,465 posts

215 months

Monday 2nd April 2018
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2 sMoKiN bArReLs said:
Nobody that has friends hehe
That's rich coming from someone who starts a thread with a photo of a pavement.

hehe

bmwmike

8,789 posts

139 months

Monday 2nd April 2018
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Reminds me of the complete brake pad failure I once had coming down Lynton hill. The friction material completely disintegrated leaving only the metal backings pressing on the disks by the time I'd got to the bottom. How they didn't weld solid I don't know. Awful grinding noise and metal dust all down the side of the car. I managed to get back up Lynmouth hill and then down Porlock hill again by using the handbrake and first gear. By the time I'd got home to Cardiff the brake discs were in a right old state.




kev b

2,756 posts

197 months

Monday 2nd April 2018
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I have friends plus a girlfriend I don't need to inflate and I strip clean and lube my calipers at least every year, it only takes an hour or two anyway.

Back when I was a mechanic this was standard practice but seems to have been superceded by a “visual check” usually without removing the wheels.

My mates in the trade often come across the stuck on brake issue especially when there has been a spell of bad weather, not helped by caustic wheel cleaner and pressure washing.

2 sMoKiN bArReLs

32,039 posts

266 months

Monday 2nd April 2018
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Hammer67 said:
2 sMoKiN bArReLs said:
Nobody that has friends hehe
That's rich coming from someone who starts a thread with a photo of a pavement.

hehe
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