Name that tool in one...
Name that tool in one...
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dave_s13

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14,031 posts

300 months

Thursday 21st June 2018
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I've been googling furiously and just can't suss out what this is called!!

https://youtu.be/RDDALiyuhbU

2:22

What's that ring spanner socket thingy called for loosening off that fuel line??

I've go a leaky injector seal on my cdi Merc and just gathering the stuff I need to do it myself.

Cheers.

steveo3002

11,242 posts

205 months

Thursday 21st June 2018
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crowsfoot?

steveo3002

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paintman

7,861 posts

221 months

Thursday 21st June 2018
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You might find this thread of interest, esp the bits about the copper sealing washers. Couple of links in my post there worth a look.
www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&f=22...

Looks like a version of a crowsfoot as already said but I used a ring spanner I'd cut a slot in the front of years ago for use on brake pipes.
If you need to bend a ring spanner put it in a vice, heat part of the shaft to red heat & they bend quite easily.

dave_s13

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14,031 posts

300 months

Thursday 21st June 2018
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paintman said:
You might find this thread of interest, esp the bits about the copper sealing washers. Couple of links in my post there worth a look.
www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&f=22...

Looks like a version of a crowsfoot as already said but I used a ring spanner I'd cut a slot in the front of years ago for use on brake pipes.
If you need to bend a ring spanner put it in a vice, heat part of the shaft to red heat & they bend quite easily.
Interesting, thanks.

I don't have the tools or quite the level of skill you are demonstrating, sadly. For instance, you cleaned out the retaining bolt holes with a drill bit? How does this work? And how does any debris get down there in the 1st place?

And I never wouldve thought to anneal the seals, I can manage that though. I'm not sure exactly how bad with gunk mine is as I need to take off all the inlet gubbins 1st.

I was planning to simply warm the engine up 1st then thoroughly degrease around the injector. Then remove the injector, use a ream to clean up the seat and injector end.
New seal (anneal it 1st).
New retaining bolt and jobs done.

Andy 308GTB

3,064 posts

252 months

Friday 22nd June 2018
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Here's the cheapo version that true to form I purchased...
https://www.machinemart.co.uk/p/clarke-crows-foot-...

One of those tools that I have only used once or twice but would have been lost without.

paintman

7,861 posts

221 months

Friday 22nd June 2018
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You misunderstand. I'm not the author of the articles I linked to. I found those whilst trying to work out why the genuine Mercedes part was failing.
I'm also 'paintman', not ''buzzer' & it's 'buzzer' that used the drill.

I used the Honda seal.

Depending how long & how bad the leak you've had is there may be a lot of crud in the bolt hole that's leaked past the thread, plus any that falls in once you've removed the bolt & are removing the injector clamp.

To clean out the holes I used an aerosol of brake & clutch cleaner but put a piece of cloth down the injector hole to stop as much as possible going into the cylinder. I have a garage only use Henry hoover & a length of suitable diameter plastic pipe taped into the end of the crevice tool helps get any muck out. I used a bristle brush of the type used for cleaning rifles to scrub the holes.

As mine was cylinder 4 which is at the back so you can't get a direct view down the holes I used a small mirror & a torch to enable me to see into them.

dave_s13

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14,031 posts

300 months

Friday 22nd June 2018
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paintman said:
You misunderstand. I'm not the author of the articles I linked to. I found those whilst trying to work out why the genuine Mercedes part was failing.
I'm also 'paintman', not ''buzzer' & it's 'buzzer' that used the drill.

I used the Honda seal.

Depending how long & how bad the leak you've had is there may be a lot of crud in the bolt hole that's leaked past the thread, plus any that falls in once you've removed the bolt & are removing the injector clamp.

To clean out the holes I used an aerosol of brake & clutch cleaner but put a piece of cloth down the injector hole to stop as much as possible going into the cylinder. I have a garage only use Henry hoover & a length of suitable diameter plastic pipe taped into the end of the crevice tool helps get any muck out. I used a bristle brush of the type used for cleaning rifles to scrub the holes.

As mine was cylinder 4 which is at the back so you can't get a direct view down the holes I used a small mirror & a torch to enable me to see into them.
Gotcha mate. Sorry about that.

I'm sure I can clear out the hole in a similar fashion to how you describe. I have also bought some aerosol oven cleaner, going to attack it 1st with that to clean it up as much as possible before I start any dismantling.

Fortunately, with the 350cdi V6 you can access all the injectors with relative ease.

With regard to the honda seal, is there a part number for it that you're aware of?

thanks for posting, really useful stuff.

dave_s13

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Friday 22nd June 2018
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Andy 308GTB said:
Here's the cheapo version that true to form I purchased...
https://www.machinemart.co.uk/p/clarke-crows-foot-...

One of those tools that I have only used once or twice but would have been lost without.
steveo3002 said:
Thanks both!!

paintman

7,861 posts

221 months

Friday 22nd June 2018
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dave_s13

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Friday 22nd June 2018
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paintman said:
Excellent thanks.

just ordered a couple from a local honda dealer....a bit pricey at £4.50 each but if they do the trick it's worth it.

imagineifyeswill

1,250 posts

197 months

Friday 22nd June 2018
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Ive done quite a few of these and allways use a Snap On flank drive open end spanner to remove the fuel pipes.

dave_s13

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300 months

Tuesday 3rd July 2018
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So it turns out you can get these pipes off with relative ease using nothing more than a normal 18mm spanner, it would no doubt be a bit easier with a crows foot jobby though.

Fortunately the injector came out really easily. Cleaned up the seat with a cutter set bought off ebay and all went back together with no real dramas.

I would probably describe mine as being the very earliest whiff of the mercedes fabled "black death" so there was no major clean up operation needed, thankfully.