Cold scudo.
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Scudo

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6 posts

93 months

Sunday 3rd February 2019
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Hi all, topped up the antifreeze yesterday in my 05 Scudo (non turbo) and had it on tick over for about ten minutes. Got up this morning to take the kid to football,struck up the van to de ice the screen, everything ok. After about five mins I noticed a fluctuation in revs, not much but it was noticed. Anyway, football cancelled. A couple of hours later I tried the van again. Nothing. Just turning over. At this point I must mention that the fuel gauge is in the red and the van is parked on a slope with the driver side the lower than the passenger side. Could it just be that the fuel level is below the tank outlet. I doubt it though.
Any ideas?

davepoth

29,395 posts

230 months

Sunday 3rd February 2019
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What did you top up the antifreeze with? Water, or coolant?

Krikkit

27,941 posts

212 months

Sunday 3rd February 2019
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Sounds like the easiest thing to do would be add more fuel and see...

Scudo

Original Poster:

6 posts

93 months

Sunday 3rd February 2019
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Coolant

Scudo

Original Poster:

6 posts

93 months

Sunday 3rd February 2019
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Just off to get a fuel can and 5 liters. Back in about an hour.

Scudo

Original Poster:

6 posts

93 months

Sunday 3rd February 2019
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No joy. Fuel gauge is just short of a quarter, two blips on the glow plugs and she struck up and ran for about ten seconds then died. Tried again but only running the battery down..confused

n0v0s

48 posts

183 months

Sunday 3rd February 2019
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Is it an older style diesel engine, with mechanical rotary fuel pump? If so, sounds a bit like it's drawing in air into fuel line.

The older 1.9 xud (PSA) used to have a few areas where air got in, including fuel filter housing. Not familiar with the scudo unit. But a clear fuel line would help to see if there are any bubbles.

Scudo

Original Poster:

6 posts

93 months

Sunday 3rd February 2019
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Understand what you are saying, I'm a heating engineer and had terrible problems with one type of oil fired boiler drawing air in, I'm wondering if last night's extreme cold could have played a part. Expansion and contraction, heat and cold .

227bhp

10,203 posts

159 months

Sunday 3rd February 2019
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davepoth said:
What did you top up the antifreeze with? Water, or coolant?
This. Also, what brand of tyres are you using? Have you got dust caps fitted on the valves and have you cleaned the windscreen lately?

227bhp

10,203 posts

159 months

Sunday 3rd February 2019
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Scudo said:
Understand what you are saying, I'm a heating engineer and had terrible problems with one type of oil fired boiler drawing air in, I'm wondering if last night's extreme cold could have played a part. Expansion and contraction, heat and cold .
No it's running out of fuel that does it. If it was because it was cold last night then no-one would be going anywhere at all today.
Try hitting Google with 'Scudo bleed diesel' etc and see what it throws up. Often modern diesels have a manual hand pump in the engine bay somewhere to prime them when it's been run dry (If that is the issue).

n0v0s

48 posts

183 months

Sunday 3rd February 2019
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If it's common rail type, they'll self bleed. Older type, without a "hand grenade' manual pump in engine bay/or lift pump (for which you can prime whilst cracking open a fuel line to expel air)... Then you'll need to crack the Injector lines and crank until diesel squirts through (reiterating, older style diesel with rotary style fuel pump, not common rail!).

Scudo

Original Poster:

6 posts

93 months

Sunday 3rd February 2019
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She's going, quick prime and sorted. Thanks guys.

227bhp

10,203 posts

159 months

Sunday 3rd February 2019
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n0v0s said:
If it's common rail type, they'll self bleed. Older type, without a "hand grenade' manual pump in engine bay/or lift pump (for which you can prime whilst cracking open a fuel line to expel air)... Then you'll need to crack the Injector lines and crank until diesel squirts through (reiterating, older style diesel with rotary style fuel pump, not common rail!).
That isn't true either.

n0v0s

48 posts

183 months

Sunday 3rd February 2019
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227bhp said:
That isn't true either.
Well done you for making several, irritating posts and only one helpful one.

Presumably you are denying that common rails are self bleeding (noticed how you didn't specify and thus give your esteemed, correct input...)

Common rails without a lift pump/secondary low pressure pump, probably do have some sort of mechanic plunger to help this.

Those with lift pumps like on my BMW... Self bleed. I've changed the fuel rail, hpfp and injectors. Cranked up for 20-30seconds and fired up without any special bleeding procedure.

Any way, glad to hear all fixed, Scudo ??

227bhp

10,203 posts

159 months

Sunday 3rd February 2019
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n0v0s said:
227bhp said:
That isn't true either.
Well done you for making several, irritating posts and only one helpful one.

Presumably you are denying that common rails are self bleeding (noticed how you didn't specify and thus give your esteemed, correct input...)

Common rails without a lift pump, probably do have some sort of mechanic plunger to help this.

Those with lift pumps like on my BMW... Self bleed. I've changed the fuel rail, hpfp and injectors. Cranked up for 20-30seconds and fired up without any special bleeding procedure.
Your post irritates me as it's cobblers along with the other pointless questions. Common rail do have a manual pump to prime them, I know this not only because I have one, but have worked on plenty of others too.

n0v0s

48 posts

183 months

Sunday 3rd February 2019
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227bhp said:
Your post irritates me as it's cobblers along with the other pointless questions. Common rail do have a manual pump to prime them, I know this not only because I have one, but have worked on plenty of others too.
rotate aaaaaalriiiiighty then. Good job 227.