OBD Reader / Fault Diagnostics
OBD Reader / Fault Diagnostics
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XJSJohn

Original Poster:

16,152 posts

250 months

Sunday 4th August 2019
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Hey folks,

Looking at getting a fault reader OBD thingumy, any recommendations.

Ideally would like one device that does Range Rover (L322) and BMW X5 (E53)

more the merrier really (for future foolish purchases)

Just been having a look on amazon and ebay and lots of TLA's to confuse me!

spookly

4,396 posts

126 months

Sunday 4th August 2019
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Unless you are spending a lot of money then you need to be careful which you buy.
The really expensive ones work with almost anything, but still won't have full dealer functionality in a lot of cases.

For specific vehicles you can often buy OBD2 products which are programmed specific to the vehicle or marque and unlock a lot of features usually only available with the dealer diagnostics. For example, you can buy Merc specific OBD2 devices for about £120 which do a lot more than a standard OBD2 but only for Mercedes, and still fall well short of what the Merc dealer diagnostics can do. I also have a OBD Eleven adaptor for VW, which does more than a standard OBD and allows programming some VW features.

I'd start by looking through forums dedicated to the two vehicles you want and see what other people are using, and what it costs. And then figure out how much you want to spend.

alorotom

12,789 posts

218 months

Sunday 4th August 2019
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I have used a WiFi obd2 reader and Carista for iOS for years with great success. Lots of customisation across multiple marques and models, reliable fault code reading and reset ability etc.
Highly recommend it for home use.

InitialDave

15,155 posts

150 months

Sunday 4th August 2019
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I'd start with a £10 bluetooth or wi-fi dongle from Amazon with a free phone app, and see if there's anything you need that it doesn't do before spending more.

XJSJohn

Original Poster:

16,152 posts

250 months

Sunday 4th August 2019
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cheers for the starters - seems to be as big a "minefield" as i suspected.

guess some idea of what i expect of it.

BMW OBD - this car is in the middle of nowhere and in the back end of beyond - objective is identifying faults early and easily so that i can pass on information to workshop for getting necessary parts in before driving / shipping the car 5 plus hours to the workshop.

Range Rover OBD - This one is close to a good workshop so is less important and more for turning off the periodical Range Rover Festive Lights display that sometimes pops up on the dashboard.


g3org3y

22,514 posts

222 months

Sunday 4th August 2019
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As a BMW OBD reader I use the Creator C310+

Functions:
1. Read trouble codes
2. Clear trouble codes
3. Displays live data stream and graph display and vehicle version information
4. Clear adaptation
5. Engine oil reset

Quite good for <£50.

I understand one of the best (in terms of functions) for the BMW home mechanic is the Carly system which you run as an app on your phone.

p4cks

7,537 posts

230 months

Sunday 4th August 2019
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spookly said:
Unless you are spending a lot of money then you need to be careful which you buy.
The really expensive ones work with almost anything, but still won't have full dealer functionality in a lot of cases.

For specific vehicles you can often buy OBD2 products which are programmed specific to the vehicle or marque and unlock a lot of features usually only available with the dealer diagnostics. For example, you can buy Merc specific OBD2 devices for about £120 which do a lot more than a standard OBD2 but only for Mercedes, and still fall well short of what the Merc dealer diagnostics can do. I also have a OBD Eleven adaptor for VW, which does more than a standard OBD and allows programming some VW features.

I'd start by looking through forums dedicated to the two vehicles you want and see what other people are using, and what it costs. And then figure out how much you want to spend.
This. As an example I once had a £11 OPCOM cable for my VX220 which was great as it could read codes, erase codes, programme keys and probably cook you dinner if you found it in the options but I've also had £200+ ones which couldn't even tell me what vehicle it was connected to

Equus

16,980 posts

132 months

Sunday 4th August 2019
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spookly said:
Unless you are spending a lot of money then you need to be careful which you buy.
The really expensive ones work with almost anything, but still won't have full dealer functionality in a lot of cases.

For specific vehicles you can often buy OBD2 products which are programmed specific to the vehicle or marque and unlock a lot of features usually only available with the dealer diagnostics....
This.

For the Range Rover, I would recommend the iCarsoft Land Rover specific device, which will give you a lot more functionality than a generic OBDII reader, for about £130.

rallycross

13,758 posts

268 months

Sunday 4th August 2019
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g3org3y said:
As a BMW OBD reader I use the Creator C310+

Functions:
1. Read trouble codes
2. Clear trouble codes
3. Displays live data stream and graph display and vehicle version information
4. Clear adaptation
5. Engine oil reset

Quite good for <£50.

I understand one of the best (in terms of functions) for the BMW home mechanic is the Carly system which you run as an app on your phone.
I use one of these as well brilliant little box of tricks for BMW's 100% worth having one of these my one is 2 yrs old now and gets used a lot and is still working well..

motco

17,656 posts

277 months

Sunday 4th August 2019
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InitialDave said:
I'd start with a £10 bluetooth or wi-fi dongle from Amazon with a free phone app, and see if there's anything you need that it doesn't do before spending more.
Be careful of cheap Bluetooth dongles as they are mostly clones and do not have full elm327 functionality despite their claims. I bought a £10 one (transparent blue body) and it was very limited. A better one from OBDScan - the MX - does far more. It's c.£80 but if it works then it's worth it. Car Gauge Pro, and Torque Pro are popular apps for Android but it's best to snoop around the forums for the particular marque to see what other owners say.

InitialDave

15,155 posts

150 months

Sunday 4th August 2019
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motco said:
Be careful of cheap Bluetooth dongles as they are mostly clones and do not have full elm327 functionality despite their claims. I bought a £10 one (transparent blue body) and it was very limited. A better one from OBDScan - the MX - does far more. It's c.£80 but if it works then it's worth it. Car Gauge Pro, and Torque Pro are popular apps for Android but it's best to snoop around the forums for the particular marque to see what other owners say.
Yeah, it depends what you need to do, really, I was just thinking that as a starting point, it's minimal cost, and if you don't need more than it can do, happy days, it's been a cheap exercise.

NDA

25,766 posts

256 months

Sunday 4th August 2019
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XJSJohn said:
Hey folks,

Looking at getting a fault reader OBD thingumy, any recommendations.

Ideally would like one device that does Range Rover (L322) and BMW X5 (E53)

more the merrier really (for future foolish purchases)

Just been having a look on amazon and ebay and lots of TLA's to confuse me!
This will read the BMW - I have that engine:

https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B0788KYY4Q/ref...

XJSJohn

Original Poster:

16,152 posts

250 months

Sunday 4th August 2019
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NDA said:
XJSJohn said:
Hey folks,

Looking at getting a fault reader OBD thingumy, any recommendations.

Ideally would like one device that does Range Rover (L322) and BMW X5 (E53)

more the merrier really (for future foolish purchases)

Just been having a look on amazon and ebay and lots of TLA's to confuse me!
This will read the BMW - I have that engine:

https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B0788KYY4Q/ref...
thumbup

need a similar for the Rangie now smile

damn them Christmas Lights ...

rallycross

13,758 posts

268 months

Sunday 4th August 2019
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XJSJohn said:
thumbup

need a similar for the Rangie now smile

damn them Christmas Lights ...
You will be fighting a losing battle better off just applying some of this to hide the xmas lights!



XJSJohn

Original Poster:

16,152 posts

250 months

Sunday 4th August 2019
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rallycross said:
XJSJohn said:
thumbup

need a similar for the Rangie now smile

damn them Christmas Lights ...
You will be fighting a losing battle better off just applying some of this to hide the xmas lights!


I unscrew the bulbs hehe



E-bmw

13,606 posts

183 months

Monday 5th August 2019
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Unfortunately most in the last 10 years are hard-wired led. wink