Suzuki Swift dead - advice please!
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Hi all, my partner's sons 2006 Suzuki Swift has suddenly died. It has had a new battery about 6 months ago and has been used regularly. This morning it was completely dead, no lights on the dash, had to open it with the hidden key (it's keyless). The previous journey was reported to be fine with no issues, no interior or exterior lights were left on and the battery connections are all secure with no loose wires.
Are we looking at alternator failure? Just seems weird all was fine, then completely dead. Any advice welcome please.
Are we looking at alternator failure? Just seems weird all was fine, then completely dead. Any advice welcome please.
Well all the main fuses are fine, the earths from the battery to the body are fine, no corrosion and tight. No doors, boot, lights or interior lights were left on. It has literally been driven fine, parked up then died. The price of a new alternator including labour is going to be around £300 and the car is worth £500 tops.
Might just Ebay it and advise him to get something else, had no end of trouble with this bloody car!
Might just Ebay it and advise him to get something else, had no end of trouble with this bloody car!
I know it's had a new battery already but I have seen similar when a battery cell has died. - Try the battery from another car to check.
If not, disconnect the battery, then unplug the ECU and leave it for a while before plugging everything back in and retrying. None of that will cost you anything to try.
If not, disconnect the battery, then unplug the ECU and leave it for a while before plugging everything back in and retrying. None of that will cost you anything to try.
Speed Badger said:
Well all the main fuses are fine, the earths from the battery to the body are fine, no corrosion and tight. No doors, boot, lights or interior lights were left on. It has literally been driven fine, parked up then died. The price of a new alternator including labour is going to be around £300 and the car is worth £500 tops.
Might just Ebay it and advise him to get something else, had no end of trouble with this bloody car!
Have you checked that the engine block is connected to earth. The battery negative terminal might be connected at the battery but if the engine block earth is broken it won’t start. Take a multimeter if you have one and test for resistance between the engine block and the negative terminal on the battery. The starter motor will use the engine block for its earth. Which needs to be connected to the negative of the battery either directly from the engine or most likely via the chassis. Might just Ebay it and advise him to get something else, had no end of trouble with this bloody car!
Edited to add.
Sorry really quick diagram to explain it’s not exactly how it works but enough to give you an idea.
Edited by MB140 on Tuesday 6th August 15:32
Sorry just noted it’s totally dead not just not starting. Ignore above then. Sorry op.
Edited by MB140 on Tuesday 6th August 15:48
Clivey said:
I know it's had a new battery already but I have seen similar when a battery cell has died. - Try the battery from another car to check.
If not, disconnect the battery, then unplug the ECU and leave it for a while before plugging everything back in and retrying. None of that will cost you anything to try.
+1If not, disconnect the battery, then unplug the ECU and leave it for a while before plugging everything back in and retrying. None of that will cost you anything to try.
Try another battery, this will give you more to go on, if it starts the car, then you can also check the alternator as this should be charging the battery, so turn on lights/aircon etc and check the voltage at the battery, if it starts going down, then the alternator may not be doing it's job.
P.S. someone else might have a better way of checking the alternator.
Bit of a stupid question, but as well as using the hidden key to open the car, did you also put the hidden key in the ignition?
If the key battery is dead, it won't allow you to start the car unless you insert the hidden key into the ignition and turn it. It only allows you to twist it by hand if the key fob is detected.
Accessing the slot for the hidden key would involve removing the the small piece of plastic on the end of the bit you have to twist to start the car.
If the key battery is dead, it won't allow you to start the car unless you insert the hidden key into the ignition and turn it. It only allows you to twist it by hand if the key fob is detected.
Accessing the slot for the hidden key would involve removing the the small piece of plastic on the end of the bit you have to twist to start the car.
Edited by MrGTI6 on Tuesday 6th August 18:11
Sorry for slow update - couldn't find where this topic went. Yes I used the hidden key in the ignition. I'm going to try jump starting tomorrow and see what's what.
Burning it is also a good option! Potentially having a look at a couple of 2010 year Mazda 2's soon if this piece of s
t doesn't want to play dice any more.
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