Arghhhhh BMW Locking Wheel Bolt

[scz4]

Does anyone have any good ideas to help me??

Wheel bolts were super tight, even with a 2ft extension bar I struggled to get them loosened, which was clearly too much for the BMW locking wheel nut tool and it split. I can get a new one from BMW tomorrow, but doesn't help me with this predicament..

Tired a punch... tried a screwdriver, tried some heat (blow torch) tried a chisel, 3mm drill piece, can't get a socket on due to the spinning collar...

Wheels are to get reconditioned, so don't mind any damage to the wheel..

[AWRacing]

You need one of these
https://images.app.goo.gl/i2NhA4aCgYHzMPey5

[bluezedd]

does it have a rotating collar on the outside?

If not, hammer on a socket of a similar size over it

Also, once you're done, replace your locking wheel nuts or locking wheel bolts with the normal equivalent.

[anonymous-user]

scz4 said:

can't get a socket on due to the spinning collar...

https://www.wheelnutremoval.co.uk/

[DoubleD]

bluezedd said:

does it have a rotating collar on the outside?

If not, hammer on a socket of a similar size over it

Also, once you're done, replace your locking wheel nuts or locking wheel bolts with the normal equivalent.

Yeah, then you won't have any wheels to worry about.

[Old Merc]

DoubleD said:

bluezedd said:

does it have a rotating collar on the outside?

If not, hammer on a socket of a similar size over it

Also, once you're done, replace your locking wheel nuts or locking wheel bolts with the normal equivalent.

Yeah, then you won't have any wheels to worry about.

I don't think so? Low life don't bother with wheels,your more likely to be mugged and they drive off with your car.
Locking wheel bolts cause more grief in the car business than all the other car problems put together. I think they are a waste of time and money.

By the way OP, any descent tyre bay will have an extracter tool to remove that damaged bolt. What about the guys who are going to refurbish your wheels??

[DoubleD]

Old Merc said:

DoubleD said:

bluezedd said:

does it have a rotating collar on the outside?

If not, hammer on a socket of a similar size over it

Also, once you're done, replace your locking wheel nuts or locking wheel bolts with the normal equivalent.

Yeah, then you won't have any wheels to worry about.

I don't think so? Low life don't bother with wheels,your more likely to be mugged and they drive off with your car.
Locking wheel bolts cause more grief in the car business than all the other car problems put together. I think they are a waste of time and money.

By the way OP, any descent tyre bay will have an extracter tool to remove that damaged bolt. What about the guys who are going to refurbish your wheels??

Wheels do get stolen, if you want to take the risk is up to you.

Locking wheel bolts cause more grief in the car business than all the other car problems put together??

Where did you get this amusing "fact" from?

[scz4]

Found this video - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zu04B46kW9A

[WelshRich]

I was under the impression that thieving alloy wheels had almost died out but apparently, it’s making a comeback. The theory is that it’s linked to the increase in PCP/Lease deals with a new market for people trying to avoid hand-back penalty clauses for trashed wheels...

[Old Merc]

DoubleD said:

Old Merc said:

DoubleD said:

bluezedd said:

does it have a rotating collar on the outside?

If not, hammer on a socket of a similar size over it

Also, once you're done, replace your locking wheel nuts or locking wheel bolts with the normal equivalent.

Yeah, then you won't have any wheels to worry about.

I don't think so? Low life don't bother with wheels,your more likely to be mugged and they drive off with your car.
Locking wheel bolts cause more grief in the car business than all the other car problems put together. I think they are a waste of time and money.

By the way OP, any descent tyre bay will have an extracter tool to remove that damaged bolt. What about the guys who are going to refurbish your wheels??

Wheels do get stolen, if you want to take the risk is up to you.

Locking wheel bolts cause more grief in the car business than all the other car problems put together??

Where did you get this amusing "fact" from?

55 years in the motor trade, 25 years with my own business.

[Order66]

OP - get the new "key" from BMW, clear out the broken bits from the old one, then get someone with a proper cordless impact wrench and they'll have it off in a second. Impact wrenches are far less likely to strip/break bolts than a breaker bar.

[bluezedd]

DoubleD said:

Yeah, then you won't have any wheels to worry about.

Your blind faith in locking wheel nuts tells me you don't what you're talking about.

But good job on helping OP with his problem.

Edited by bluezedd on Tuesday 3rd December 17:37

[DoubleD]

bluezedd said:

DoubleD said:

Yeah, then you won't have any wheels to worry about.

Your blind faith in locking wheel nuts tells me you don't have a clue what you're talking about.

But good job on helping OP with his problem.

Locking wheel nuts lock wheels on to the car, so yes I understand what a locking wheel nut does thanks.

And I am more than happy to be helping the OP

[bluezedd]

DoubleD said:

Locking wheel nuts lock wheels on to the car, so yes I understand what a locking wheel nut does thanks.

And I am more than happy to be helping the OP

They don't lock the wheels to the car any more than a normal bolt does.

The sort of person who steals wheels knows this.

[DoubleD]

bluezedd said:

DoubleD said:

Locking wheel nuts lock wheels on to the car, so yes I understand what a locking wheel nut does thanks.

And I am more than happy to be helping the OP

They don't lock the wheels to the car any more than a normal bolt does.

The sort of person who steals wheels knows this.

If you say so

[bluezedd]

DoubleD said:

If you say so

I wouldn't say if I didn't know so, or give any advice that I don't follow myself.

[DoubleD]

bluezedd said:

DoubleD said:

If you say so

I wouldn't say if I didn't know so, or give any advice that I don't follow myself.

Ok, if you say so

OP, I would buy some new locking wheel nuts and get back on with your life.

[Davie]

Same problem myself a couple of weeks back...

https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...

Ultimately, built up a weld blob on the bolt then hammered a socket on whilst the weld was still cherry red then they came out fairly easily... all other tried and tested methods failed sadly.

[GreenV8S]

DoubleD said:

If you say so

Locking wheel nuts are a placebo. Defeating a locking wheel nut is quick and easy for anyone who works on cars for a living. They don't actually lock - they are just slightly less convenient to remove than standard nuts.

[ninjag]

My previous BMW locking nut did this as well when it was in getting a tyre changed. Bloody rattle guns which do it. I religiously use my own torque wrench now afterwards and am very careful with the torque on locking nuts.