How to rotate rear wheel?
How to rotate rear wheel?
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RR76

Original Poster:

107 posts

75 months

Saturday 12th December 2020
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This is a novice question but how do I rotate a rear wheel on a front wheel drive, do I have to jack up both rear wheels at the same time, take the handbrake off and have it in neutral or should one rear wheel be able to rotate individually?

It's a solid axel from one rear to the other on a FWD so they both have to rotate at the same time?

thebraketester

15,815 posts

168 months

Saturday 12th December 2020
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Say what?

Both wheels should rotate freely and independently once the handbrake is released.

RR76

Original Poster:

107 posts

75 months

Saturday 12th December 2020
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thebraketester said:
Say what?

Both wheels should rotate freely and independently once the handbrake is released.
That's what I initially thought, the handbrake is off but the wheel will not rotate given a good bit of force, what's likely happening and to follow on from my other thread, the caliper piston won't retract so I don't know if these two are connected, it could point to some problem with the handbrake. Could I have damaged the handbrake when I took the caliper off and it causing it to stay on even though I've released it?

Dave.

7,900 posts

283 months

Saturday 12th December 2020
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You need to put the tools down and get a mobile mechanic round.

I know we've all got to start somewhere, but you don't appear to have any experience at all working on cars, you really shouldn't be doing brakes as your introduction to spannering.

thebraketester

15,815 posts

168 months

Saturday 12th December 2020
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At this point what have you done the the brakes?

anonymous-user

84 months

Saturday 12th December 2020
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Looking at your other threads, it looks like you never did wind in the piston? But now you’ve put the wheel back on and it won’t spin. So you still need to wind that piston in. Does the piston look corroded?

RR76

Original Poster:

107 posts

75 months

Saturday 12th December 2020
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thebraketester said:
At this point what have you done the the brakes?
I've taken off the caliper and pads. That's it. I've then tried to rotate wheel so I can get in at the caliper bracket bolts but wheel won't budge. I don't have the wheel back on either.


F20CN16 said:
Looking at your other threads, it looks like you never did wind in the piston? But now you’ve put the wheel back on and it won’t spin. So you still need to wind that piston in. Does the piston look corroded?
I haven't put the wheel on, I tried to rotate the hub just holding the backplate. The piston doesn't look corroded, looks ok.

Edited by RR76 on Saturday 12th December 09:01

thebraketester

15,815 posts

168 months

Saturday 12th December 2020
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So the caliper is removed and the wheel will not turn? Looks like you need new bearings then.

Where are you based?

RR76

Original Poster:

107 posts

75 months

Saturday 12th December 2020
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thebraketester said:
So the caliper is removed and the wheel will not turn? Looks like you need new bearings then.

Where are you based?
The car was working fine, it makes no sense that the wheel bearing would just go after removing a caliper it would need significant forces acting on it. It's more likely a handbrake or abs sensor problem.

thebraketester

15,815 posts

168 months

Saturday 12th December 2020
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True, but I cannot see your car. Take some pics and video.

bern

1,400 posts

250 months

Saturday 12th December 2020
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What are you trying to rotate? The back plate shouldn't rotate. Just the central hub / flange.

RR76

Original Poster:

107 posts

75 months

Saturday 12th December 2020
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bern said:
What are you trying to rotate? The back plate shouldn't rotate. Just the central hub / flange.
Are you saying I need to put wheel back on before I can rotate the whole thing?

thebraketester

15,815 posts

168 months

Saturday 12th December 2020
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RR76 said:
bern said:
What are you trying to rotate? The back plate shouldn't rotate. Just the central hub / flange.
Are you saying I need to put wheel back on before I can rotate the whole thing?
Take a photo of what you’re trying to rotate. The hub On its own or the hub with the brake disc on should still rotate

RR76

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107 posts

75 months

Saturday 12th December 2020
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thebraketester said:
Take a photo of what you’re trying to rotate. The hub On its own or the hub with the brake disc on should still rotate
So I want to rotate it to the right about 45degrees. I'm just holding the backplate and trying to turn it.


https://i.ibb.co/LpPmXxT/IMG-20201212-092713.jpg

steveo3002

11,223 posts

204 months

Saturday 12th December 2020
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backplate is fixed...only the disc should turn

not being nasty but get some help before you hurt yourself

thebraketester

15,815 posts

168 months

Saturday 12th December 2020
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thebraketester

15,815 posts

168 months

Saturday 12th December 2020
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It looks like the seal is goosed on that caliper too, so that needs attention.

Wilmslowboy

4,770 posts

236 months

Saturday 12th December 2020
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Pop a couple of wheel bolts back in (diagonal holes), use a wheel brace or a larger screw driver and apply some leverage (not too much).


steveo3002

11,223 posts

204 months

Saturday 12th December 2020
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yeah seal is also hanging out the caliper

bern

1,400 posts

250 months

Saturday 12th December 2020
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You need to rotate the disc independent of the hub behind to align the holes in the disc with the threaded holes in the hub. They will rotate independently but sometimes get stuck together. Give the disc a wiggle as you try to rotate it. It will go as it has it has obviously moved out of alignment whilst you've been working on it.

Your next problem is you've managed to pull the caliper piston dust cover boot out of the caliper, the only way your getting that back in is by removing the piston completely and reseating the boot.

You really need someone who knows what they are doing to either supervise what you're doing or just do it while you watch and learn. There's nothing wrong with that, it's how we all started.

Do not drive it until someone has checked it thoroughly.