Pump oil out v sump plug oil change?
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A lot of garages do it that way now. Personally I find it much easier than messing around under the car, especially if the oil filter is also located somewhere accessible without having to get under the engine. I spend a bit of time jiggling the pickup hose around to get as much as possible out, but TBH there is always some old oil left in the engine whatever you do.
You can also pump the old easily and tidily into a container ready for taking to the tip. Plus no chance of having a leaking sump plug (if you don't have one already that is)
If your battery is at the other end of the car to your engine, then you'll need another power source or to remove it.
If your battery is at the other end of the car to your engine, then you'll need another power source or to remove it.
anonymous said:
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I have one of these, bought it online. Plunge the, er, plunger a few times to create a vacuum then stand back and admire...http://www.pelapumps.co.uk/default.aspx?A10PAGE=PL...
Hereward said:
I use a manual vacuum extractor via the dipstick. Makes life very simple.
Only downside I can think of is that you may not be able to extract quite as much compared to a sump plug gravity drain.
I was hugely skeptical many years back - regarded them as a short cut to doing the job properly and they would never remove all the oil etc etcOnly downside I can think of is that you may not be able to extract quite as much compared to a sump plug gravity drain.
Then I bought an SLK with a very heavy steel undertray (was an expensive option I believe) - it really took two people to get it bolted back on the car so after the first change I bought an extractor because it really wasn't a fun job.
A year into it's life I took the undertray off and got it blasted and coated and while it was off I did an oil & filter change with an vac extractor pump (via dipstick) As it was easy to drop the drain plug out with no undertray I then dropped the sump drain plug to see what it had missed - I was shocked!!!!
Not even half an egg cup of oil had remained in the sump - there was probably more oil than than in the head and oil galleries
I've since done the same test on other cars I own and in every case the quantity of oil left in the sump has negligible.
I'm a convert now but latest daily is fitted with an N52 engine and it doesn't have a dip stick

Hereward said:
I have one of these, bought it online. Plunge the, er, plunger a few times to create a vacuum then stand back and admire...
http://www.pelapumps.co.uk/default.aspx?A10PAGE=PL...
I have same one - very good bit of kit unless your sump capacity is more than 6.5 Litres (then you have to do the extraction in two stages)http://www.pelapumps.co.uk/default.aspx?A10PAGE=PL...
B'stard Child said:
Hereward said:
I have one of these, bought it online. Plunge the, er, plunger a few times to create a vacuum then stand back and admire...
http://www.pelapumps.co.uk/default.aspx?A10PAGE=PL...
I have same one - very good bit of kit unless your sump capacity is more than 6.5 Litres (then you have to do the extraction in two stages)http://www.pelapumps.co.uk/default.aspx?A10PAGE=PL...
I notice that Pela do a 14 litre reservoir...tempting.
W00DY said:
You can also pump the old easily and tidily into a container ready for taking to the tip. Plus no chance of having a leaking sump plug (if you don't have one already that is)
If your battery is at the other end of the car to your engine, then you'll need another power source or to remove it.
My battery is in the back but there are 'Jumping' points under the bonnet to attach the Crocodiles!If your battery is at the other end of the car to your engine, then you'll need another power source or to remove it.
If the filter is down the bottom then I do both.... If the filter is up the top I will just use the pump
12v pump makes it a much less messy job, especially if I'm doing all 3+ family sheds in the one day
I have this one.. https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B004VEF1G4/ref...
I had a vaccum pump before but it never seemed to work right for me
12v pump makes it a much less messy job, especially if I'm doing all 3+ family sheds in the one day
I have this one.. https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B004VEF1G4/ref...
I had a vaccum pump before but it never seemed to work right for me
My car takes 8.5L of oil,
When I come to change it via the extraction pump I get near as makes no difference 8.5L out.
So yes, it is the job 'done properly' in my book. Difference is I don't need to get under the car at any point. Plus my oil filter lives at the top of the Engine bay so it's even easier!
To be fair I have read numerous times that the extraction pump is Mercedes chosen method for oil changes at the dealerships, I don't know how true this is.
If you use good quality oil and stick to your serivce shedule - I see no reason to worry about a tiny bit of oil left in the sump.
When I come to change it via the extraction pump I get near as makes no difference 8.5L out.
So yes, it is the job 'done properly' in my book. Difference is I don't need to get under the car at any point. Plus my oil filter lives at the top of the Engine bay so it's even easier!
To be fair I have read numerous times that the extraction pump is Mercedes chosen method for oil changes at the dealerships, I don't know how true this is.
If you use good quality oil and stick to your serivce shedule - I see no reason to worry about a tiny bit of oil left in the sump.
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