Impact Wrench & Ratchet - Air/Electric/Cordless?
Impact Wrench & Ratchet - Air/Electric/Cordless?
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cbjroms

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23 posts

184 months

Thursday 10th March 2022
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Want to get an impact wrench and ratchet. Looked at all the info I can find online and its all about Milwaukee/DeWalt. I dont want to buy rubbish but also dont want to pay over the odds for particular brands.

I have an air compressor and Clarke does a pneumatic impact wrench and seperate ratchet that will be fine with my compressor. Looking for about 450nm on the impact wrench and around 100nm on the ratchet. If I need extra torque I will use a breaker bar and my use of these items is going to be occasional.

Alternatively, Clarke does a corded impact wrench and I could also get an air ratchet.

If I go cordless then Machine Mart offers Clarke or Einhall at around £150 and another £150 for the cordless ratchet.

My gut feel is to go for the air powered options as I feel that cordless is a luxury I dont really need.

Am I making a mistake?

Scrump

23,940 posts

188 months

Thursday 10th March 2022
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Air powered are better value for money and tend to be relatively powerful compared to cordless.
The ease of use of cordless (no airline) should not be underestimated though.

alabbasi

3,241 posts

117 months

Thursday 10th March 2022
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Get a Makita or Milwaukee and stick to the same system for every other cordless tool that you buy. Buy the brushless one. Milwaukee comes with a 5 year warranty and will be supported for years to come.

Smint

3,629 posts

65 months

Thursday 10th March 2022
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With cordless they're fully mobile and useable immediately, if charged, less noise too as no compressor.

Air is great if you're fully set up and would only ever use them in your workshop.

Truck mechanics i see use cordless for full mobility, about the only time i see them on air is with the big guns used for truck wheels etc when the vehicle is static in the workshop itself.

Jaz2000

101 posts

72 months

Friday 11th March 2022
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I have a Dewalt and its great, the trick with any cordless is to buy one brand then when you have a charger and a couple of batteries just buy the bare tools which are much cheaper than the cased sets with batteries and charger.

I just happen to have used Dewalt for years but many other brands are equally as good.

Bill

58,710 posts

285 months

Friday 11th March 2022
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Scrump said:
The ease of use of cordless (no airline) should not be underestimated though.
This is what it comes down to. If you're only ever going to use it in range of the compressor and don't mind the hassle of the line then air is a no brainer.

Power source is the expensive bit, and you have air...

gazza285

11,181 posts

238 months

Friday 11th March 2022
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Scrump said:
Air powered are better value for money and tend to be relatively powerful compared to cordless.
The ease of use of cordless (no airline) should not be underestimated though.
Apart from the compressor required to power them?

Cordless all the way for me, and I'll use mine a lot more than most of the people on here.

I wouldn't bother with the ratchet myself, I had a pneumatic ratchet, I don't think I used it once the novelty had worn off.

Scrump

23,940 posts

188 months

Friday 11th March 2022
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gazza285 said:
Apart from the compressor required to power them?

Cordless all the way for me, and I'll use mine a lot more than most of the people on here.

I wouldn't bother with the ratchet myself, I had a pneumatic ratchet, I don't think I used it once the novelty had worn off.
OP states they already have a compressor.

paintman

7,860 posts

220 months

Friday 11th March 2022
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^^^^
But not how big the air compressor is.
And that's a factor that can't be ignored.
Smaller compressors can't produce enough air at enough pressure to make a rattle gun effective.

I have one which with my compressor - 2hp/50 litre tank - will do wheel nuts & the odd not-too-stuck nut.
Tried it on the crank bolt of my Range Rover V8 & it was a waste of time. Quick burst & that was it. Had to resort to the old method of jamming the starter ring & a long breaker bar.

The Road Crew

4,272 posts

190 months

Friday 11th March 2022
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Cordless. Pick one of the top brands, milwae, dewalt, makita... Makes even more sense if you already have a tool=batteries from one of these... Body only units are much cheaper.

If you've nothing then pick a colour and get shopping!

alabbasi

3,241 posts

117 months

Friday 11th March 2022
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The battery powered 1/2" impacts from the big brands like Makita and Milwaukee have as much if not more torque than a good quality air impact wrench. Unless you're planning on a big Snap-On or Ingersoll rand that you can connect to a 60 gallon compressor with a 1/2" hose. Forget it.

shirt

25,432 posts

231 months

Friday 11th March 2022
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I’ve got an Ingersoll rand 1/2” cordless which has never failed to remove a nut. It’s a big weighty though so I then bought a 3/8” DeWalt which isn’t as powerful but much easier to work with.

If you have a suitable compressor though I’d go with air for the amount of time you really need them. That way you can get the impact gun, ratchet and also a right angle impact gun for the hard to reach places, all for the same cost as a single decent cordless. Plumbed in air and a decent selection of air tools really is the way to go imo.

If you do go cordless then same brand is top advice. If you go air, get some extra female fittings to hang them from when not in use.

I am alright Jack

4,285 posts

173 months

Saturday 12th March 2022
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My opinion is if your using them a lot go battery. If, like you say, only occasional go air for the ratchet and air or corded for the impact wrench.

Simple reason air doesn't die like batteries do.

Jaz2000

101 posts

72 months

Saturday 12th March 2022
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Compressed air is very expensive and if you are not careful to dry the air and lube your tools then they will seize up pretty quickly.

I found that when I used an air impact tool it was only used once every few months but on buying a cordless it is used all the time as its easier and Im not tripping over airlines.

A cheap chinese 3/8 drive angle cordless angle ratchet saves loads of time as well and I wouldnt be without mine,

steveo3002

11,211 posts

204 months

Saturday 12th March 2022
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cordless for me, no noise or standing around waiting for the compressor to fill , job is done before the air one is useable - plus maybe the chance i can use it at a scrap yard or away from home

they're a different beast to a few years ago , crazy power and the battery lasts ages

Belle427

11,917 posts

263 months

Saturday 12th March 2022
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I prefer cordless as well, milwaukee would get the nod from me, very good tools.
Modern cordless tools have come a long way.

Captain Answer

1,376 posts

217 months

Tuesday 15th March 2022
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Dewalt DCF899HN battery unit is great, I already had a Makita dtw190z as I've got other Makita LXT kit but found it wouldn't shift a real stiff hub nut (nor would a breaker bar).... bought the Dewallt and just got a battery adapter - spun the nut out in about 2 mins

Jim1064

457 posts

235 months

Wednesday 16th March 2022
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This might sound silly - but the (Lidl) Parkside battery powered impact wrench, rated at 400 Nm, in my experience is excellent both in terms of performance and price: £49.99 when available, including battery). They are for sale on Ebay for significantly more than that.

gman88667733

1,196 posts

97 months

Wednesday 16th March 2022
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Jim1064 said:
This might sound silly - but the (Lidl) Parkside battery powered impact wrench, rated at 400 Nm, in my experience is excellent both in terms of performance and price: £49.99 when available, including battery). They are for sale on Ebay for significantly more than that.
I really rate the Parkside range. I have their impact driver and a couple of batteries. Battery life is good, they are durable and the impact driver is bloody powerful in my experience. I really want the impact wrench, but am yet to see one in store and I don't fancy paying £80 or so for one on eBay as a bare unit.

Captain Answer

1,376 posts

217 months

Wednesday 16th March 2022
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gman88667733 said:
Jim1064 said:
This might sound silly - but the (Lidl) Parkside battery powered impact wrench, rated at 400 Nm, in my experience is excellent both in terms of performance and price: £49.99 when available, including battery). They are for sale on Ebay for significantly more than that.
I really rate the Parkside range. I have their impact driver and a couple of batteries. Battery life is good, they are durable and the impact driver is bloody powerful in my experience. I really want the impact wrench, but am yet to see one in store and I don't fancy paying £80 or so for one on eBay as a bare unit.
I've got this one also, I keep it in my car - its a bit weaker than the Makita I have I would say but its good for the price point

I've got a few other Parkside bits too, the tyre inflator I got from Germany is especially good