Jump packs *the proper ones"

[phib]

My halfords jump pack has finally died after 10 years !!
I probably use it on average once a day, live on a farm and have several cars.
Was just going to buy another halfords one but obviously models have changed, has anyone got experience with the clarke or the portable power ones, obviously they are more expensive but are they worth the money?
Thanks
Phib

[normalbloke]

Noco.

[phib]

Thanks, we have one of these for the smaller stuff, gator’s and mini tractors but they don’t work on any of the bigger stuff hence and only give us 2 or three how’s starting on the smaller stuff which isn’t always enough, sorry should have been clearer the question about the larger ones ie non lithium.
Phib

[normalbloke]

What bigger stuff are you trying to start?Which model do you have that failed to start?

Edited by normalbloke on Sunday 5th February 19:20

[phib]

normalbloke said:

What bigger stuff are you trying to start?Which model do you have that failed to start?

Edited by normalbloke on Sunday 5th February 19:20

GB150, it gives one or two attempted starts but then dies, not all our stuff starts first time and that’s probBly the issue

Issues with defender 4.0, lancia, Kubota b8000 and is Eli tk538

[Sogra]

Experience of both of these very good. The small one is really handy just to keep in the car. Worth reading about how it works as they give a very large boost

The big one will easily start a truck.

[normalbloke]

That’s a shame. I’ve got the GB150, its been extremely strong for the last 2 years. It’s started everything I’ve thrown at it, inc a diesel Unimog and some old school Yank diesels. Have you tried the GB500+….

[phib]

normalbloke said:

That’s a shame. I’ve got the GB150, its been extremely strong for the last 2 years. It’s started everything I’ve thrown at it, inc a diesel Unimog and some old school Yank diesels. Have you tried the GB500+….

I haven’t tried the +, I would prefer something smaller than a boody great pack being lugged everywhere!

Mine gives about 3 or 4 attempted starts then dies, is yours better than that ?

Thanks

[Baldchap]

normalbloke said:

Noco.

They're good for things that start. Things that need 'encouragement' aren't suited as you only get four or five goes per 10 minutes (if you read the manual), after which they need a charge anyway.

Truck battery on a trolley and a battery conditioner is what the ferry companies use to jump everything with a flat battery that the owners haven't disabled the alarm on...

[Haltamer]

https://youtu.be/VRFwEUr_Vjc

I imagine your answer should be in there! - They may fall into the "small lithium" category, but the testing on the giant RV engine should be appropriate in your case.

I'd say one of those and an old (big) car battery also kept fully charged on standby should cover all your bases.

[Matt_E_Mulsion]

If you are after a more traditional style jump pack then the Clarke 4000 gets my vote. Big, heavy, cumbersome - but they will start one thing after another and you can leave them on a running vehicle for a minute or two to recharge them back up ready for the next one.

[phib]

Baldchap said:

normalbloke said:

Noco.

They're good for things that start. Things that need 'encouragement' aren't suited as you only get four or five goes per 10 minutes (if you read the manual), after which they need a charge anyway.

Truck battery on a trolley and a battery conditioner is what the ferry companies use to jump everything with a flat battery that the owners haven't disabled the alarm on...

That may be our problem, everything we seem to own needs encouragement!

[phib]

Matt_E_Mulsion said:

If you are after a more traditional style jump pack then the Clarke 4000 gets my vote. Big, heavy, cumbersome - but they will start one thing after another and you can leave them on a running vehicle for a minute or two to recharge them back up ready for the next one.

Thanks

[miniman]

I forgave my Noco GB40 for not starting a tractor, but yesterday it failed to start a Datsun Cashcow which was disappointing.

The Clarke 4000 that i annoyingly left in the boot of a car I sold would start anything. Something about replacement for displacement I think.

[Sogra]

phib said:

Baldchap said:

normalbloke said:

Noco.

They're good for things that start. Things that need 'encouragement' aren't suited as you only get four or five goes per 10 minutes (if you read the manual), after which they need a charge anyway.

Truck battery on a trolley and a battery conditioner is what the ferry companies use to jump everything with a flat battery that the owners haven't disabled the alarm on...

That may be our problem, everything we seem to own needs encouragement!
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You need this

[Caddyshack]

There are new capacitor ones now that take their charge from your dead battery….most batteries won’t start a car below say 10v but that is double what a capacitor needs to charge to 12v, so your flat battery can boost the booster and then start the car….very clever.

[Darumvej]

Matt_E_Mulsion said:

If you are after a more traditional style jump pack then the Clarke 4000 gets my vote. Big, heavy, cumbersome - but they will start one thing after another and you can leave them on a running vehicle for a minute or two to recharge them back up ready for the next one.

Seconded, I have had one since 2007 charge once every 3 months. Only used occasionally but never failed.

Edited by Darumvej on Sunday 5th February 21:39

[mikef]

I rely on my Sealey SL2S, never failed me, but needs topping up about once a month. Rated for 5L petrol, 3.6L diesel

[bolide]

You could try opening up the dead unit, measuring the battery and having a trawl on Alibaba for a replacement Lion or Lead-Acid battery

[Baldchap]

Sogra said:

That may be our problem, everything we seem to own needs encouragement!
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You need this

It's a weird thing... People don't believe when you say it, but if you know, you know... Engines genuinely do get addicted to stuff like this. Be careful using it regularly is my advice.