Have MIG welders developed in the last 20 years?
Have MIG welders developed in the last 20 years?
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cavebloke

Original Poster:

650 posts

257 months

Saturday 2nd December 2023
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I’m still MIG welding with a SnapOn 2180 that must be 20 years old by now. I’ve got no real complaints with it but I haven’t tried anything newer. Has MIG welder tech changed at all? Or is it all the same bits in the box? Would I notice a difference in a newer machine and in what aspect of welding?
Cheers,
Simon

guards red

689 posts

230 months

Saturday 2nd December 2023
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They now use inverter technology so can be much, much smaller.

guards red

689 posts

230 months

Saturday 2nd December 2023
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... Also, laser welding is a thing now. Cost an arm and a leg though.

cavebloke

Original Poster:

650 posts

257 months

Saturday 2nd December 2023
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guards red said:
They now use inverter technology so can be much, much smaller.
Does the use of an inverter make performance better in any way? My welder is big but that doesn’t really concern me too much.

guards red

689 posts

230 months

Saturday 2nd December 2023
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I believe the current to be more stable and they offer better control. Also I think they are more energy efficient.

The big thing though is size and weight.


hidetheelephants

35,870 posts

223 months

Saturday 2nd December 2023
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cavebloke said:
guards red said:
They now use inverter technology so can be much, much smaller.
Does the use of an inverter make performance better in any way? My welder is big but that doesn’t really concern me too much.
As said, better control of current, voltage etc means a much more stable arc. What's marketed as synergic technology means adjusting it to get a decent weld is less brain-melting, although for edge cases like exotic materials or very thin sheet will likely still need manual fiddling.

carlo996

6,815 posts

51 months

Saturday 2nd December 2023
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Bought one recently and it’s a revelation. Tell it what material and it’s sorts the speeds/feeds. I used to be a dedicated stick welder but for me new kit is decent.

keeling54

231 posts

199 months

Saturday 2nd December 2023
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What did you buy, I'm looking for something to do a little bit of body work patching.


carlo996

6,815 posts

51 months

Saturday 2nd December 2023
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keeling54 said:
What did you buy, I'm looking for something to do a little bit of body work patching.

I bought this…



Really nice guys, would recommend them without hesitation.

keeling54

231 posts

199 months

Saturday 2nd December 2023
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carlo996 said:
I bought this…



Really nice guys, would recommend them without hesitation.
Was just looking at that one from another thread you posted on. From what I've read up on, it appears quite well suited for body work..

carlo996

6,815 posts

51 months

Saturday 2nd December 2023
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From what I know they make welders for others. The good thing with it is the auto setup has been tailored by the Uk agent so is really close to what you need. End of the day there’s no shorcut to talent, but from my experience it got me welding as a MIG novice within a few minutes.

Steve_steve

9 posts

38 months

Saturday 2nd December 2023
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My 30 odd year old Oxford 160 died and I got a R-Tech MIG180 MIG Inverter MIG Welder its a very easy welder to use and the power range is variable and not in steps like the Oxford so you can dial it in to suit the thickness of steel spot on. I would recommend the inverter welder you wouldn't go far wrong

keeling54

231 posts

199 months

Saturday 2nd December 2023
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Steve_steve said:
My 30 odd year old Oxford 160 died and I got a R-Tech MIG180 MIG Inverter MIG Welder its a very easy welder to use and the power range is variable and not in steps like the Oxford so you can dial it in to suit the thickness of steel spot on. I would recommend the inverter welder you wouldn't go far wrong
The R-Tech was the other one I looked at recently.

B'stard Child

31,105 posts

276 months

Saturday 2nd December 2023
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I fking love my portamig - it's old school but I can pretty much guess what settings I need an throw down a damn good weld

Modern stuff I'm sure is better but I like what I have

cavebloke

Original Poster:

650 posts

257 months

Sunday 3rd December 2023
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Thanks for your thoughts all. Sounds like I probably don’t “need” a new welder but might treat myself someday.
Cheers,
Simon

Huntsman

9,336 posts

280 months

Sunday 3rd December 2023
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My Clarke 150TE was over 20 years old and was failing, so it went in a skip.

I'm considering this one

https://www.rapidwelding.com/dynamic/DisplayItem.a...

tapkaJohnD

2,000 posts

234 months

Sunday 3rd December 2023
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My first MiG was the cheapest I could find, it had no cooling fan so that the heat cut-out would activate after about 20 minutes, and take two hours to cool down again. A kitchen extractor fan strapped to the side cured that.

My second was second hand, original age unknown, but it sparked its last after at least twenty years. I just hope my new one will last as long!
John

aland75

173 posts

107 months

Monday 4th December 2023
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I have a ~20+ year old Clarke 230A MIG, which has 6 power settings, which is fine for fabricating stuff from lumps of steel, but useless for anything on a car body.
I bought an R-Tech 180 IGBT when I started my XKR project and it has been my go-to welder for everything since. The controllability and 'smoothness' or the arc are great.
They now do a version with a pretty TFT screen to make setup even easier. I've just bought one of their TIG models also.