How to get a rolling shell into my garage?
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First up, i live in the US but your answers will be valid the same
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So I've seen a 71 Mustang on Facebook I quite fancy buying, however it doesn't run, it is a project car that's had the body work respray and mechanical done but the wiring loom has not been completed and no interior (or at least this is what they say) its also missing the steering column.
I can't pop down to look at this thing as Its also a 5.5 hour drive from New York (cars in Virginia), my plan is to drive down, spend the night, if the cars good in the morning hire a trailer and haul it back to New York (I have a RAM 1500 so that part should go ok..).
BUT THIS IS THE ISSUE, my drive way like many, is at a 90 degree angle to the road. The road is only 1 car wide with thick bushes on the opposite side (along with soft soil) . The splay is pretty narrow, just getting my truck up out is difficult (I can only get in from one side) and we have large rocks coming out of the ground either side so cannot make it wider.
The road is on an S bend with us in the middle and extremely steep, around 12 degree, although it flattens to about 5 degrees near our driveway entrance,
Our driveway is around 7degrees for the first 40ft and then 5 degrees for the remaining 30ft until the garage entrance.
How do I get the car up that and into the garage if it can't move under its own steam?
No way a trailer can get reversed up it as their is not the room to be able to turn it in from the road without the truck going through the bushes and getting scratched and stuck (not sure the neighbor would be happy either, although fortunately in NY people don't have guns..).
The car has an engine that 'ran a few years ago', but even if I by pass the electrics and the fuel tank and run it on a can of hope (im not a mechanic but I watch a lot of you Tube
) I have no steering column to steer it :/
According to google a 71 Mustang with a 351 Cleveland engine weighs between 3100lb and 3500lb, so pushing up the drive is also not possible.
I thought about winching it up, but that opens many questions, such as where do I attach the winch? I don't want to pull the front of the house down (don't forget American build their houses out of sticks and not very strong ones at that!) , into the concrete in the garage floor is one idea but im not sure how deep concrete I would need for that to hold or what the load of the car would be pulling it up the hill, then theirs the issue of how I get it lined up the driveway to start with to get it winched up as it needs to go down hill , around the firs part of the S curve then turn 90degrees with no steering column!(and assuming the brakes work!)
Any ideas would be welcome, id love to buy the car, its a basic project ( non bodywork a little mechanics but mainly fitting a dashboard and complete interior plus the gremlins from the previous owner of course) that I want to cut my teeth on before doing something larger (the 69 fastback is the one id really love) but seems ive failed at step 1, getting home and in the garage!
Help!
Skip to below in caps to get to the met of the issue...
So I've seen a 71 Mustang on Facebook I quite fancy buying, however it doesn't run, it is a project car that's had the body work respray and mechanical done but the wiring loom has not been completed and no interior (or at least this is what they say) its also missing the steering column.
I can't pop down to look at this thing as Its also a 5.5 hour drive from New York (cars in Virginia), my plan is to drive down, spend the night, if the cars good in the morning hire a trailer and haul it back to New York (I have a RAM 1500 so that part should go ok..).
BUT THIS IS THE ISSUE, my drive way like many, is at a 90 degree angle to the road. The road is only 1 car wide with thick bushes on the opposite side (along with soft soil) . The splay is pretty narrow, just getting my truck up out is difficult (I can only get in from one side) and we have large rocks coming out of the ground either side so cannot make it wider.
The road is on an S bend with us in the middle and extremely steep, around 12 degree, although it flattens to about 5 degrees near our driveway entrance,
Our driveway is around 7degrees for the first 40ft and then 5 degrees for the remaining 30ft until the garage entrance.
How do I get the car up that and into the garage if it can't move under its own steam?
No way a trailer can get reversed up it as their is not the room to be able to turn it in from the road without the truck going through the bushes and getting scratched and stuck (not sure the neighbor would be happy either, although fortunately in NY people don't have guns..).
The car has an engine that 'ran a few years ago', but even if I by pass the electrics and the fuel tank and run it on a can of hope (im not a mechanic but I watch a lot of you Tube
) I have no steering column to steer it :/According to google a 71 Mustang with a 351 Cleveland engine weighs between 3100lb and 3500lb, so pushing up the drive is also not possible.
I thought about winching it up, but that opens many questions, such as where do I attach the winch? I don't want to pull the front of the house down (don't forget American build their houses out of sticks and not very strong ones at that!) , into the concrete in the garage floor is one idea but im not sure how deep concrete I would need for that to hold or what the load of the car would be pulling it up the hill, then theirs the issue of how I get it lined up the driveway to start with to get it winched up as it needs to go down hill , around the firs part of the S curve then turn 90degrees with no steering column!(and assuming the brakes work!)
Any ideas would be welcome, id love to buy the car, its a basic project ( non bodywork a little mechanics but mainly fitting a dashboard and complete interior plus the gremlins from the previous owner of course) that I want to cut my teeth on before doing something larger (the 69 fastback is the one id really love) but seems ive failed at step 1, getting home and in the garage!
Help!
Peeping Turtle said:
First up, i live in the US but your answers will be valid the same
Skip to below in caps to get to the met of the issue...
So I've seen a 71 Mustang on Facebook I quite fancy buying, however it doesn't run, it is a project car that's had the body work respray and mechanical done but the wiring loom has not been completed and no interior (or at least this is what they say) its also missing the steering column.
I can't pop down to look at this thing as Its also a 5.5 hour drive from New York (cars in Virginia), my plan is to drive down, spend the night, if the cars good in the morning hire a trailer and haul it back to New York (I have a RAM 1500 so that part should go ok..).
BUT THIS IS THE ISSUE, my drive way like many, is at a 90 degree angle to the road. The road is only 1 car wide with thick bushes on the opposite side (along with soft soil) . The splay is pretty narrow, just getting my truck up out is difficult (I can only get in from one side) and we have large rocks coming out of the ground either side so cannot make it wider.
The road is on an S bend with us in the middle and extremely steep, around 12 degree, although it flattens to about 5 degrees near our driveway entrance,
Our driveway is around 7degrees for the first 40ft and then 5 degrees for the remaining 30ft until the garage entrance.
How do I get the car up that and into the garage if it can't move under its own steam?
No way a trailer can get reversed up it as their is not the room to be able to turn it in from the road without the truck going through the bushes and getting scratched and stuck (not sure the neighbor would be happy either, although fortunately in NY people don't have guns..).
The car has an engine that 'ran a few years ago', but even if I by pass the electrics and the fuel tank and run it on a can of hope (im not a mechanic but I watch a lot of you Tube ) I have no steering column to steer it :/
According to google a 71 Mustang with a 351 Cleveland engine weighs between 3100lb and 3500lb, so pushing up the drive is also not possible.
I thought about winching it up, but that opens many questions, such as where do I attach the winch? I don't want to pull the front of the house down (don't forget American build their houses out of sticks and not very strong ones at that!) , into the concrete in the garage floor is one idea but im not sure how deep concrete I would need for that to hold or what the load of the car would be pulling it up the hill, then theirs the issue of how I get it lined up the driveway to start with to get it winched up as it needs to go down hill , around the firs part of the S curve then turn 90degrees with no steering column!(and assuming the brakes work!)
Any ideas would be welcome, id love to buy the car, its a basic project ( non bodywork a little mechanics but mainly fitting a dashboard and complete interior plus the gremlins from the previous owner of course) that I want to cut my teeth on before doing something larger (the 69 fastback is the one id really love) but seems ive failed at step 1, getting home and in the garage!
Help!
Random thoughts...Skip to below in caps to get to the met of the issue...
So I've seen a 71 Mustang on Facebook I quite fancy buying, however it doesn't run, it is a project car that's had the body work respray and mechanical done but the wiring loom has not been completed and no interior (or at least this is what they say) its also missing the steering column.
I can't pop down to look at this thing as Its also a 5.5 hour drive from New York (cars in Virginia), my plan is to drive down, spend the night, if the cars good in the morning hire a trailer and haul it back to New York (I have a RAM 1500 so that part should go ok..).
BUT THIS IS THE ISSUE, my drive way like many, is at a 90 degree angle to the road. The road is only 1 car wide with thick bushes on the opposite side (along with soft soil) . The splay is pretty narrow, just getting my truck up out is difficult (I can only get in from one side) and we have large rocks coming out of the ground either side so cannot make it wider.
The road is on an S bend with us in the middle and extremely steep, around 12 degree, although it flattens to about 5 degrees near our driveway entrance,
Our driveway is around 7degrees for the first 40ft and then 5 degrees for the remaining 30ft until the garage entrance.
How do I get the car up that and into the garage if it can't move under its own steam?
No way a trailer can get reversed up it as their is not the room to be able to turn it in from the road without the truck going through the bushes and getting scratched and stuck (not sure the neighbor would be happy either, although fortunately in NY people don't have guns..).
The car has an engine that 'ran a few years ago', but even if I by pass the electrics and the fuel tank and run it on a can of hope (im not a mechanic but I watch a lot of you Tube
) I have no steering column to steer it :/According to google a 71 Mustang with a 351 Cleveland engine weighs between 3100lb and 3500lb, so pushing up the drive is also not possible.
I thought about winching it up, but that opens many questions, such as where do I attach the winch? I don't want to pull the front of the house down (don't forget American build their houses out of sticks and not very strong ones at that!) , into the concrete in the garage floor is one idea but im not sure how deep concrete I would need for that to hold or what the load of the car would be pulling it up the hill, then theirs the issue of how I get it lined up the driveway to start with to get it winched up as it needs to go down hill , around the firs part of the S curve then turn 90degrees with no steering column!(and assuming the brakes work!)
Any ideas would be welcome, id love to buy the car, its a basic project ( non bodywork a little mechanics but mainly fitting a dashboard and complete interior plus the gremlins from the previous owner of course) that I want to cut my teeth on before doing something larger (the 69 fastback is the one id really love) but seems ive failed at step 1, getting home and in the garage!
Help!
... but you could:
- drive down the hill,
- stop before the entrance,
- decouple the trailer and chock the wheels so it doesn't roll,
- reverse the truck up the driveway so the winch (you have fitted to the front) is facing towards the drive entrance,
- extend the winch cable to the driveway entrance,
- rotate the trailer into the driveway, letting gravity do some of the work,
- connect the winch cable to the hookup point or a middle part of the frame,
- winch it towards the house
If the cable is only so long, you could winch to the truck, chock the trailer wheels, disconnect the cable and reverse the truck further up, then reconnect and winch a bit further.
How you get it into the garage might be an issue if you can (in theory) park the truck in the garage and winch as far as the door (leaving enough room to get the truck out) but you would at least be closer... lol
kambites said:
My approach would be to get a big group of friends together and push/pull it. A rope attached to the front would let you get more people involved.
And perhaps have a weight loss campaign. Your Mustang weighs (say) 3200 lbs. If you could remove the engine / gearbox you would take about off 800lbs. Doors are easily removable. Bonnet boot and anything easily unbolted.To help with low speed manoeuvring car dollies might help?
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Winch it in. If it's a straight pull, just put an eye bolt into the garage floor and shackle the winch to that. It isn't a heavy vehicle or a steep slope so you'll have no trouble finding a winch to do it, and it won't be expensive. Use chocks to controi the vehicle while you're moving it around.
I have a very steep part on my drive that I cant reverse a trailer up, nor push one up. I bought a cheap hand winch for not very much and a length of chain for pulling trailers up the driveway.
A large m16 concrete bolt into the ground works as a good anchor point, I use bricks as wheel chocks when I need to lengthen out the chain again for each pull. It's a slow process but my back was getting destroyed manhandling trailers and this is very easy. An electric winch would be great if I was doing it regularly.
A large m16 concrete bolt into the ground works as a good anchor point, I use bricks as wheel chocks when I need to lengthen out the chain again for each pull. It's a slow process but my back was getting destroyed manhandling trailers and this is very easy. An electric winch would be great if I was doing it regularly.
Wheel dollies? This sort of thing.
Excuse the screenshot, my tablet doesn't like some (random) weblinks.
If you have a good crew of mates who can push/ pull, some big chocks for when they need to stop for a breather and space to unload on the street or the driveway entrance - a pair of these would take care of the steering issue.
The other pair under the back wheels once it's in the garage will pay dividends for working on the car.
Excuse the screenshot, my tablet doesn't like some (random) weblinks.
If you have a good crew of mates who can push/ pull, some big chocks for when they need to stop for a breather and space to unload on the street or the driveway entrance - a pair of these would take care of the steering issue.
The other pair under the back wheels once it's in the garage will pay dividends for working on the car.
This is how I anchored a winch to haul cars up my drive and into the garage. Those are anchor eye bolts into the concrete. If you need to haul things further than the cable will reach, use a length of chain to extend it. A sling or soft shackle around the suspension/chassis lets you attach to the vehicle without damaging it.
Manual or slushmatic? A manual could be done by winding it on the starter in 1st gear with the plugs out, bodging together some cables from jump leads will be easy enough. Slushmatic will need pushing or one of the winch suggestions, harbor fright have cheap options like this. A steering column will be needed at some point anyway so buy one now, sit on a milk crate or something.
Thanks for the replies, in typical fashion after I decided id get it up the driveway by either by bolting in a winch into the garage floor, or putting it on a 2 wheel Dolley trailer by the rear wheels then getting some one in the car to steer it (and trailer) up the drive as I reverse, it was sold!
Still not wasted time as now im more confident to take roller and know I can't take car on a jig as that is never getting up the driveway!
Still not wasted time as now im more confident to take roller and know I can't take car on a jig as that is never getting up the driveway!
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