Cooking “system” or cobbled together bits and pieces?

Cooking “system” or cobbled together bits and pieces?

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anonymous-user

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68 months

Friday 19th July 2019
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Planning a few nights ultra-minimal camping next month. Space and weight both an issue as I’ll be going by motorbike.
Looking at cooking options, I’m split between my Jetboil or MSR Pocket Rocket.
Jetboil is a little faster, but is only good for boiling water IMHO, where as the PR is more versatile and considerably less bulky, even with a largish gas canister and a tripod.
Do I supplement the Jetboil with their own bespoke cooking pan, or buy a compact cook set (like this) to go with the PR? At the moment I just use a small normal frying pan or saucepan but they’re both too bulky for what I need.
I’m erring more towards the latter, but when I look at the burner, gas canister and cook set, what I’ve got before me is the component pieces of a Jetboil, but perhaps a little more compact and easily packed as it’s all separate.
Thoughts?

sbarclay62

771 posts

71 months

Monday 22nd July 2019
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Have you checked out the Trangia sets? Great bit of kit and might be worth considering?

sas62

5,819 posts

92 months

Monday 22nd July 2019
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No answer for you but I'll be interested in the replies.

I use a Pocket Rocket but I'm considering changing for 2 reasons.

1) It's difficult to leave a pan balanced on top. Quite often I have to hold the pan in place.
2) The whole thing is pretty unstable unless I can find a completely flat piece of ground.

I only use the system to boil water for coffee or to simmer a boil in the bag meal. So any pan needs to be big enough for something like a Wayfarer packet and also as light/small as possible.

anonymous-user

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68 months

Monday 22nd July 2019
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sas62 said:
2) The whole thing is pretty unstable unless I can find a completely flat piece of ground.

I only use the system to boil water for coffee or to simmer a boil in the bag meal. So any pan needs to be big enough for something like a Wayfarer packet and also as light/small as possible.
Tried this?
Only a fiver and works really well.

Regards BITB scoff, I tried some MOD rat packs in a Jetboil and it simply heats up too fast. Ends up burning what’s in the lowest inch of water whilst what’s at the top stays cold. They really are only any good for boiling water, which seems very extravagant.
I’m veering more and more towards a separate stove and cook set.
Had a look at the OEX version in-store and it’s very well made, and the little mug/lid/mini frying pan is probably just big enough to do a couple of rashers of bacon.
Because camping without bacon sarnies isn’t camping at all.

C0ffin D0dger

3,440 posts

159 months

Monday 22nd July 2019
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I've camped for weekends without taking any cooking gear at all. Just ate cold food and/or takeaways.

But depends on what you're after I guess, a bacon sarnie and a brew in the morning can be invaluable.

anonymous-user

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68 months

Tuesday 23rd July 2019
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C0ffin D0dger said:
But depends on what you're after I guess, a bacon sarnie and a brew in the morning can be invaluable.
And there’s the thing.
I’m debating if I can survive a few days away on the bike with just coffee and cereal bars in the morning, pub lunch then a chippy or similar in the evening.

AlfaPapa

279 posts

174 months

Tuesday 23rd July 2019
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I like food so will usually take both my MSR Windboil and the Alpkit Kraku (same as the pocket rocket) with a titanium mug.

That means I can boil water for drinks, boiled eggs, cous cous, boil in the bag dinners and rice noodles and heat up things I've prepared in advance like meatballs.
If you've no issue washing up, you can heat beans in your mug, or even bacon lardons first then add the beans or eggs over the pocket rocket, whilst boiling an egg in the jetboil and having a cup of tea with the boiling water once you've fished the egg out.



anonymous-user

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68 months

Tuesday 23rd July 2019
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The plan is Jetboil OR Pocket Rocket.
Not both.

gregs656

11,674 posts

195 months

Tuesday 23rd July 2019
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I would go with bits an pieces.

Small stove, titanium mug (boil water directly in the mug for hot drinks), then a small frying pan and pot depending on what else you are cooking.

Wouldn't even buy a cooking 'system' as you probably don't need it all.

I would also buy some feet for the gas canister, makes them much more stable.

smifffymoto

5,037 posts

219 months

Tuesday 23rd July 2019
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Mrs S and I tour by bicycle,we used to use a Trangia but have now moved onto a Ridge Monkey set up.It is head and shoulders above anything else on the market for cooking with gas.

anonymous-user

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68 months

Tuesday 23rd July 2019
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gregs656 said:
I would also buy some feet for the gas canister, makes them much more stable.
Already have (see my post above)
By “cooking system” I was referring more to enhancing my current Jetboil with one of their bespoke pans.
At nearly £70 I think I’ll pass and go with the thrown together collection of stuff.

gregs656

11,674 posts

195 months

Wednesday 24th July 2019
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Crossflow Kid said:
Already have (see my post above)
By “cooking system” I was referring more to enhancing my current Jetboil with one of their bespoke pans.
At nearly £70 I think I’ll pass and go with the thrown together collection of stuff.
I would. The pocket rocket is a small burner so not great for varied cooking.

I bought an Optimus Crux lite (the non folding one I didn’t need folding).

If you go this route I’d also recommend a mini lantern like a Primus micron or something like that, really nice way to get some light.



anonymous-user

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68 months

Wednesday 24th July 2019
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Optimus Cruz looks to me pretty much like a PR and a cook set sold as a bundle.confused
I’m slowly writing off the Jetboil idea. It’s quite a bulky player in the world of lightweight kit. The cooking pot simply adds to that, and with insufficient benefit to offset the increase.
For lighting, I already use a UCO lantern.

Some Guy

2,382 posts

105 months

Wednesday 24th July 2019
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Trangia with a gas conversion.

anonymous-user

Original Poster:

68 months

Wednesday 24th July 2019
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Some Guy said:
Trangia with a gas conversion.
Not really what I’d call compact.

LordHaveMurci

12,229 posts

183 months

Wednesday 24th July 2019
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Crossflow Kid said:
Some Guy said:
Trangia with a gas conversion.
Not really what I’d call compact.
Trangia triangle or mini with gas conversion?

I bought a Trangia 27 with gas adapter for less than the cost of a new gas adapter, worth looking on eBay.

gregs656

11,674 posts

195 months

Wednesday 24th July 2019
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Crossflow Kid said:
Optimus Cruz looks to me pretty much like a PR and a cook set sold as a bundle.confused
You can by the burner on it's own - https://www.amazon.co.uk/Optimus-680005-Crux-Lite-...

Paid much less than that but as an example.

I have a Trangia 27 with gas adapter and it is not light or compact. They're great for what they are but not for the OP.

You should check out the Primus or similar lanterns, the gas ones chuck out significantly more light than that little UCO.

anonymous-user

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68 months

Wednesday 24th July 2019
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That little Trangia thing looks like a step too far in the lightweight stakes. Probably ok for a day. Bet it’s a right faff for a week.
And I like my little UCO. Granted it’s no flood light but it gives off just enough to go to bed by, and adds a warm, homely glow.

PurpleTurtle

8,174 posts

158 months

Wednesday 24th July 2019
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Crossflow Kid said:
Some Guy said:
Trangia with a gas conversion.
Not really what I’d call compact.
I use this set-up, it’s great (I knocked up chicken pesto pasta with avocado for three on it on Sunday) but agree it’s hardly compact kit for biking, unless you’ve got full hard luggage like me.

anonymous-user

Original Poster:

68 months

Wednesday 24th July 2019
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I’ve got full hard luggage too.
Doesn’t mean I want to fill it ;-)