If you have high blood pressure don't look at this

If you have high blood pressure don't look at this

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v8thunder

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27,647 posts

272 months

Tuesday 19th October 2004
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I posted it on the Grauniad thread from yesterday, but, as a 'know your enemy' exercise I think it needs its own thread. For some reason they allow this guy to get his columns published in said Grauniad, and I have to say that he's never written a single syllable I agree with, but he's the sort of moron the future, student-based, Liberal Democrat-voting electorate think has all the answers, judging by the response he attracts: www.monbiot.com

If you have a strong stomach (or happen to know where this guy lives), click on the 'transport' link. But don't punch your monitor, it's not its fault.

Lets just say this guy's somewhere to the Left of Stalin, and I can't read any of his stuff in one go without wanting to tear up the newspaper.

andy mac

73,668 posts

269 months

Tuesday 19th October 2004
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According to this guy, we are all mindless morons, who are desperately in need of a nanny state... Glad I'll be off to the US for a good few years if people like this have their way!

rsvmilly

11,288 posts

255 months

Tuesday 19th October 2004
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Mombiot said:
Ill-concieved Leftish populist dribble which relies on flawed data
Since his friend was tragically killed. He has my sympathies for that but his logic is clouded. So when the person you are overtaking suddenly decides to accelerate to the speed limit, you have nowhere to go!

granville

18,764 posts

275 months

Tuesday 19th October 2004
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Wonderful.

I'm glad there are peasants like this lurking in the undergrowth because when Bernard Manning finally calls it a day, extreme humour will be on the wane.

I love his ridiculous CV, his unfortunate ability to prevail even when faced with the more violent attentions of the assagi-wielding midgets of the economically oppressed peninsula of Umbuerto Gorge...

GregE240

10,857 posts

281 months

Tuesday 19th October 2004
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I saw the Transport2000 links on the first piece, and switched off.

Idiot.

IvIark

1,238 posts

251 months

Tuesday 19th October 2004
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Derestrictor said:
assagi-wielding midgets of the economically oppressed peninsula of Umbuerto Gorge...


Fighting with kiwi fruit and guava halves.

ph_flyer

434 posts

264 months

Tuesday 19th October 2004
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Monbiot said:
During seven years of investigative journeys in Indonesia, Brazil and East Africa, he was shot at, beaten up by military police, shipwrecked and stung into a poisoned coma by hornets.


Perhaps, just perhaps, someone's trying to tell him something?

Monbiot said:
He came back to work in Britain after being pronounced clinically dead in Lodwar General Hospital in north-western Kenya, having contracted cerebral malaria.


Hmm, that explains lots ...

gh0st

4,693 posts

272 months

Tuesday 19th October 2004
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I think maybe a well written and to the point e-mail highlighting out plight whilst acknolwedging his subsequent points of view and sympathising with his ideals while making our point firm and clear in a non-invasive manner.

Thus I propose the following.


"Dear Sir,

You are a dkhead.

Regards,


Gh0st"


v8thunder

Original Poster:

27,647 posts

272 months

Tuesday 19th October 2004
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The one that cemented my hatred of him was the 'let's put black boxes in cars that not only tax you but prevent you from breaching 2 mph' article.

My biggest problem with him is that he's coming out with weapons-grade lentilism, all of which is theoretical, and to be honest, I don't even think he'd like to live in the kind of world he's proposing. I bet he'd try and make himself exempt. Scary thing is though, I know plenty of people who would.

granville

18,764 posts

275 months

Tuesday 19th October 2004
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v8thunder said:
...weapons-grade lentilism...


Lovely.

bor

4,972 posts

269 months

Tuesday 19th October 2004
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I've read this guy's column a few times, and the first thing that struck me was that his writing style is pretty poor. Secondly, that his research sources are flawed (Transoprt2000 etc). Thirdly that his arguments are one sided, flawed, illogical and extreme.

To be honest, at first I thought he was some species of Conservative, being given a right-of-reply. A figure of fun for us to laugh at. This type of cant is beneficial, however, in that it brings into disrepute the slightly more realistic proposals that people sometimes make. Tars it all with the same brush.

The guy is an embarassment to the left.

rjo

759 posts

285 months

Tuesday 19th October 2004
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Lets face some facts here.
This system will only work in a drive by wire car. So lots of cars would be exempt, just as older cars do not need to meet the latest standards.
Sometimes I think this continually screaming speed speed speed is going to backfire on these twits.
I have noticed in my neck of the woods that they are claiming that the average speed of vehicles is reducing.
So where is the comensurate reduction in crashes and deaths?
Eventually these morons will have to confront the obvious fact that the problem on the roads is not speed but a vast number of clowns who can't drive, have no interest in driving and therefore shouldn't be on the roads at all.
The reason many of the police and these bed wetters don't want to test all the road users and chuck the poor drivers off the road is because they might not come up to scratch.
So who is the selfish irresponsible driver now then?

>> Edited by rjo on Tuesday 19th October 09:35

yertis

18,987 posts

280 months

Tuesday 19th October 2004
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"He was hospitalised by security guards, who drove a metal spike through his foot, smashing the middle bone."

That's not where I'd have chosen to insert it...

WildfireS3

9,865 posts

266 months

Tuesday 19th October 2004
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There are very few times that I am disposed to violence and wanting to physically insert parts of a computer into a human, but he does create this feeling. His extreme views do no more than to har rational arguements and points.
To anybody who takes this too seriously this is a joke

tycho

11,949 posts

287 months

Tuesday 19th October 2004
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Everything about that site screams "I'm a smug wnaker" I would never get tired of hitting a face like that....






(No, that is not a threat......)

yertis

18,987 posts

280 months

Tuesday 19th October 2004
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Somewhat foolishly, he has included in his site contact details and a "discussion forum"...

If I wasn't so busy earning an income so I could pay my tax bill I'd have some fun there...

shnozz

28,773 posts

285 months

Tuesday 19th October 2004
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i love this little gem..

" He helped to found The Land is Ours, which has occupied land all over the country, including 13 acres of prime real estate in Wandsworth belonging to the Guinness corporation and destined for a giant superstore. The protesters beat Guinness in court, built an eco-village and held onto the land for six months"


for six months

lifetime achievement award in order?

nonegreen

7,803 posts

284 months

Tuesday 19th October 2004
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The last time I commented on this grade A scumbag my comments were not apreciated and were binned within seconds. I have not deviated from that view in principle, but have achieved a little more conviction.

yertis

18,987 posts

280 months

Tuesday 19th October 2004
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If you follow his arguments through and imagine a scenario where the policies he advocates have been implemented, you'll find yourself in the likeness of Pol Pot's Cambodia.

bor

4,972 posts

269 months

Tuesday 19th October 2004
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I'm becoming convinced now, that writers of this ilk (I won't use the word "journalist"), set out to shock or offend, because this way lies fame - think also Julie Burchill, Jeremy Clarkson etc.

If the guy had said "cars - some advantages, some disadvantages" nobody would know his name. It's possible he doesn't believe it himself but is courting controversy.

He doesn't represent the typical Guardian reader I'm sure of it.