Peugeot 206 v Renault Clio
Discussion
Looking to get a 2nd car for daily commute, and other boring drives, and having previously run a cheap, unreliable and nasty to drive Citroen Xantia, I want to get something newer, and hopefully more reliable.
Am fairly open to suggestions, but considering the above 2 cars in particular at the moment - for about £5k I could get a 1.6 Pug with most toys - a/c, CD, lots of electics etc, whereas Clios seem to be smaller engined (1.2 or 1.4), and not so well specced.
I don't want to get "hot" versions of either, as want to keep insurance reasonable.
Any input from owners of either, or both, would be much appreciated
Am fairly open to suggestions, but considering the above 2 cars in particular at the moment - for about £5k I could get a 1.6 Pug with most toys - a/c, CD, lots of electics etc, whereas Clios seem to be smaller engined (1.2 or 1.4), and not so well specced.
I don't want to get "hot" versions of either, as want to keep insurance reasonable.
Any input from owners of either, or both, would be much appreciated
My gf has just had both.
The 206 was bought just before December. it was a 1.6 GLX - fantasic fun to drive, good breaks, nice inside, 6 CD changer, full auto AC... the works. Was 5.8k.
The only two problems were an engine that juddered a lot when it was cruising, not working hard. The other was squeeling breaks. Both of which were attempted to be fixed by both the garage she bought it from and a Pugeot dealers. Neither were fixed. My gf hated the car for those reasons and sold it for 5.2k at the Start of April, and I have since heard many similar stories about the 1.6 Pug's and the 1.6 Saxos.
She then got a bog standard 1.2 Clio (Expressions?) for 5.2k four weeks ago. It had better breaks, not so nice inside, remarkably good engine for a 1.2, but nothing too amazing.
Only issue she had with it was the sunroof rattled (apparently this is common to Clio), but I fixed this with a bit of cardboard and instructions off the net.
She had somebody drive into the side of her on the M4 last Thursday doing about 80... She walked out of the car with nothing more than a bleeding nose, a couple of bruises, and being shacken up.
I can't say how the 206 would have done, but I'm glad the Clio did it's job and protected her so well.
Forgot to say - when she moved cars, Tesco said the insurance on both was the same - seemed odd to me going from a 1.6 to a 1.2, so get a couple of quotes for both too.
>> Edited by ninjadave on Wednesday 6th April 10:29
The 206 was bought just before December. it was a 1.6 GLX - fantasic fun to drive, good breaks, nice inside, 6 CD changer, full auto AC... the works. Was 5.8k.
The only two problems were an engine that juddered a lot when it was cruising, not working hard. The other was squeeling breaks. Both of which were attempted to be fixed by both the garage she bought it from and a Pugeot dealers. Neither were fixed. My gf hated the car for those reasons and sold it for 5.2k at the Start of April, and I have since heard many similar stories about the 1.6 Pug's and the 1.6 Saxos.
She then got a bog standard 1.2 Clio (Expressions?) for 5.2k four weeks ago. It had better breaks, not so nice inside, remarkably good engine for a 1.2, but nothing too amazing.
Only issue she had with it was the sunroof rattled (apparently this is common to Clio), but I fixed this with a bit of cardboard and instructions off the net.
She had somebody drive into the side of her on the M4 last Thursday doing about 80... She walked out of the car with nothing more than a bleeding nose, a couple of bruises, and being shacken up.
I can't say how the 206 would have done, but I'm glad the Clio did it's job and protected her so well.
Forgot to say - when she moved cars, Tesco said the insurance on both was the same - seemed odd to me going from a 1.6 to a 1.2, so get a couple of quotes for both too.
>> Edited by ninjadave on Wednesday 6th April 10:29
ninjadave said:
My gf has just had both.
The 206 was bought just before December. it was a 1.6 GLX - fantasic fun to drive, good breaks, nice inside, 6 CD changer, full auto AC... the works. Was 5.8k.
The only two problems were an engine that juddered a lot when it was cruising, not working hard. The other was squeeling breaks.
Thanks - 1.6 GLX was the Pug I was considering, guess I will need to take for a good test drive
And you didn't ask me about this topic? TutTut! 
Frankly I love my 1.6 Pug! The handling is very good for a little car IMHO and it's fairly nippy. I commute 35 miles each way on the M4 everyday, and the car eats up the miles. When doing a steady 55-60mph, it gives a steady 55mpg. Around town it's more like 35mpg, and 40-45mpg on the motorway.
I have a 1.6 SXi, I'd consider this if you don't need 5 doors! It has all the whistles and bells (CD, aircon, rain sensitive wipers, electrical heated mirrors, dark sensitive lights) and VERY comfy half bucket seats.
Things to be aware of are if you are tall you may not find the seating comfy - 206s are known for this. Also Pugs do suffer from electrical problems - mine has had a couple of minor issues which come and go.
Sadly for the Pug, it's days of care are coming to an end, as we've just ordered the S2000!
>> Edited by puggit on Wednesday 6th April 12:45
Frankly I love my 1.6 Pug! The handling is very good for a little car IMHO and it's fairly nippy. I commute 35 miles each way on the M4 everyday, and the car eats up the miles. When doing a steady 55-60mph, it gives a steady 55mpg. Around town it's more like 35mpg, and 40-45mpg on the motorway.
I have a 1.6 SXi, I'd consider this if you don't need 5 doors! It has all the whistles and bells (CD, aircon, rain sensitive wipers, electrical heated mirrors, dark sensitive lights) and VERY comfy half bucket seats.
Things to be aware of are if you are tall you may not find the seating comfy - 206s are known for this. Also Pugs do suffer from electrical problems - mine has had a couple of minor issues which come and go.
Sadly for the Pug, it's days of care are coming to an end, as we've just ordered the S2000!
>> Edited by puggit on Wednesday 6th April 12:45
Might be also worth thinking about the Clio diesels if it is just for the commute. I had a clio dci 80 and it wasnt a rocket-ship but would handle motorways fine and stick with the traffic. If driven sensibly 55mpg+ is not a problem whatsoever, this leaves more money for toys!
I added extra spec on my clio but the dynamiques do come fairly well specced and should come within your price range. Ins group 4 and servicing every 18k.. worth a thought?
I added extra spec on my clio but the dynamiques do come fairly well specced and should come within your price range. Ins group 4 and servicing every 18k.. worth a thought?
to T2000)triple7 said:
Surely A-man, running a second car is going to cost you just as much as running you gorge Trev as a daily???
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Edited due to my crap spelling!
>> Edited by triple7 on Tuesday 12th April 22:55
It might come out close, but when it comes time to sell, I think I would have a lot more trouble selling a high mileage car
Made a last minute change of direction here, and acquired a 3 dr Ford Focus 1.8 Zetec yesterday
Just feels much more of a grown up car to drive than all the small hatches, and I really was impressed with ride, handling, and overall feel of interior, seats etc - looking forward to collect it tomorrow.
triple7 - I know you're gagging for a cruise in it, just let me know when, I've already found the Ford Focus Owners Club (FFOC), and we could go on a Sussex meet
Just feels much more of a grown up car to drive than all the small hatches, and I really was impressed with ride, handling, and overall feel of interior, seats etc - looking forward to collect it tomorrow.
triple7 - I know you're gagging for a cruise in it, just let me know when, I've already found the Ford Focus Owners Club (FFOC), and we could go on a Sussex meet
rj_vaughan said:
Should have bought a Civic for Focus money.. or was it cheap?
Cheaper than an equivalent Civic, and so far, I am really impressed with it, think it's a brilliant car - 1.8 engine feels fairly torquey, handling is reasonably good fun, all feels very well put together, and it really is a good car to drive, I'm amazed!
rj_vaughan said:
I expect we'll see you in it at Le Mans once your better half has heard what you're done to your Tam.. (if they ever get it to fit that is!)
You may well be right there
- I'll have to see if I can hook up with my homies at FFOC www.ffoc.co.uk/Focus is a good car, zetec handles ok too.
Fairly reliable tho theres a few things to watch for.
leak into passenger footwell through air filter,
speed sensor can go iffy
rust at the bottom v of the rear hatch window
hatch lock/catch
rear bearings can go early too.
Solid cars tho and loads of fun.
Fairly reliable tho theres a few things to watch for.
leak into passenger footwell through air filter,
speed sensor can go iffy
rust at the bottom v of the rear hatch window
hatch lock/catch
rear bearings can go early too.
Solid cars tho and loads of fun.
We have had both and still have the Pugeot. The Pugeot is better put together than the clio was, feels more solid and larger and is a better drive. The driving position isn't 100% to my liking but its more than bareable.
Ours is a 51 reg 2.0HDi and keeps up with the traffic pretty easily - we get gazillions of miles to the gallon as well! (we're selling it for around your budget if you are interested
- even still got a pug warranty!)
Ours is a 51 reg 2.0HDi and keeps up with the traffic pretty easily - we get gazillions of miles to the gallon as well! (we're selling it for around your budget if you are interested
- even still got a pug warranty!)Gassing Station | General Gassing [Archive] | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff