cd's that will not play on pc/mac
Discussion
You'll find that after the old Apple fiasco (ho ho) that music cd's are starting to come with a warning on them about copy protection - and the fact that they won't play on pc's as a result.
The Apple fiasco was the same thing - the Apple pc's locked - and in the case of those fancy ones that they have recently been advertising, the cd drive had no manual eject hole - the user HAD to take the pc back to the Apple shop...heh heh that'll teach the posey Mac users (ducks for cover)...
The Apple fiasco was the same thing - the Apple pc's locked - and in the case of those fancy ones that they have recently been advertising, the cd drive had no manual eject hole - the user HAD to take the pc back to the Apple shop...heh heh that'll teach the posey Mac users (ducks for cover)...
Presumably there will be cracks available to circumvent this copy protection pretty soon. There is also the potential for legal claims for having beensold goods which are not fit for their intended purpose. i.e. you have bought a CD to listen to music (on your PC in this case) but you can't because the disc has been nobbled. However, the likelihood of such a claim succeeding is slim.
Anyone think the big electronics firms/music groups will start doing deals where certain CDs will only play on certain players?
Anyone think the big electronics firms/music groups will start doing deals where certain CDs will only play on certain players?
Here's what you do:
Record it to Tape or Minidisc, then take it back as 'goods unfit for purpose' because you only listen to music through the CR on your PC, so cannot listen to this CD.
These cheeky 4quers have been trying to get these 'protected' CDs out under the wire, but there are loads of PCs, walkmans, DVD players etc that won't play them..
A couple of times when they've released one quietly in the past, they've ended up withdrawing them and replacing them with an unprotected version.
Rather than going back to the shop, you could petition the record company who could be persuaded to send you an unprotected copy.
Which you can then rip and put on Kazaa for us all to share
Record it to Tape or Minidisc, then take it back as 'goods unfit for purpose' because you only listen to music through the CR on your PC, so cannot listen to this CD.
These cheeky 4quers have been trying to get these 'protected' CDs out under the wire, but there are loads of PCs, walkmans, DVD players etc that won't play them..
A couple of times when they've released one quietly in the past, they've ended up withdrawing them and replacing them with an unprotected version.
Rather than going back to the shop, you could petition the record company who could be persuaded to send you an unprotected copy.
Which you can then rip and put on Kazaa for us all to share
They already are with the advent of Windows Media Player 9.0. see www.theregister.co.uk for the full nooky.
As long as the Music company states that the product is not compatible then I presume that they cover themselves. And as far as the copyprotection goes, yes there are hacks - but it is a continual battle, and I for one, can't be arsed to faff about doing it.
I prefer buying the original anyway - even if they are well overpriced (the thieving bastards).
As long as the Music company states that the product is not compatible then I presume that they cover themselves. And as far as the copyprotection goes, yes there are hacks - but it is a continual battle, and I for one, can't be arsed to faff about doing it.
I prefer buying the original anyway - even if they are well overpriced (the thieving bastards).
quote:Nope - it exploits the hardward differences between CDROM drives and CD transports in consumer HiFi equipment.
Presumably there will be cracks available to circumvent this copy protection pretty soon.
In effect it gives a 'broken' data track that a computer will barf, but a regular CD player will ignore..
My fundamental objection to this is that it prevents legitimate usage - ie you are licensed to record a CD you buy to tape for your car, or onto MP3 for your walkman.. but these actually stop you doing some of the things you're paying for the right to do.
Thieving RIAA barstewards.. kill em alll ......
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Yes Neill, but assuming you have bought the original, you still wouldn't be able to play it on your PC
I completly agree and understand the problem as; carzee is commenting about. I feel that we are to small a voice to get this changed - all we can do is hope that a nice website somewhere comes up with workarounds - in the meantime; Yes it is stupid that we can't play the cd's in our pc's - but then would you be chuffed to find your new and latest album has been ripped and ciculated around the web even before it was released (I had Coldplay and Eminems latest releases about a monthe before they were released in the UK)?
quote:It's be interesting to know if this will work with a CD player's optical output fed to a soundcard with an SPDIF input.. ?
There is of course nothing to stop you putting them into a normal CD player, running a lead to your PC and recording them to your HD through the sound card.
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It's be interesting to know if this will work with a CD player's optical output fed to a soundcard with an SPDIF input.. ?
I'll let you know when I end up buying a CD that won't rip in the PC, as that is what I intend to do. And if that doesn't work, I have a pro DAT deck that may work as an intermediary (it strips SCMS etc). It is ironic, is it not, that professional pirates will not be defeated because high end studio gear is always exempted from these schemes. It's mainly legitimate users that suffer, not the commercial operations pirating discs.
At the moment it is usually possible to buy both protected and unprotected versions, so you may be able to take it back and complain.
I object strongly because I do not pirate CDs, I own about 500, and the best way to listen to them is a high bitrate copy on the PC (and the car soon).
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whats all that about then... not only would it not play the blinking pc wouldnt boot till i took it back out..
it does say on the pc that it will not work in a pc / mac ?
Here's how to get round it....
1) Get a black felt tip pen
2) Go round the outside of the disc with the felt tip pen
3)Pop it into your CD drive et voila... it SHOULD work.
(Disclaimer - I've never done this but have heard it works... so don't blame me!
) quote:and if it doesn't, then a quick squirt of isopropanol (or yer mum's hairspray) will allow you to wipe permanent marker off without any effort or damage to the disc.
Here's how to get round it....
1) Get a black felt tip pen
2) Go round the outside of the disc with the felt tip pen
3)Pop it into your CD drive et voila... it SHOULD work.
>> Edited by CarZee on Friday 27th September 14:52
quote:This is my plan should this sort of thing become prevalent.
It's be interesting to know if this will work with a CD player's optical output fed to a soundcard with an SPDIF input.. ?
Edit: Sorry - I can see I've been a bit slow and this has already been said. :O
>> Edited by JonRB on Friday 27th September 14:53
quote:Apparantly this used to work, but has been defeated by the record companies.
Here's how to get round it....
1) Get a black felt tip pen
2) Go round the outside of the disc with the felt tip pen
3)Pop it into your CD drive et voila... it SHOULD work.
There was an article on it at The Register (which I can't be arsed to go and find - sorry)
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